Are you assuming it is never necessary to burn a DVD if there is enough storage?
I sympathize with all the 'A' buyers who have to live with E19 and can only hope Funai comes through with a fix for them.
As for me, I will still burn DVD's but probably much more selectively, thanks to the HD capacity. Only those programs/feature movies that I think will be keepers. I don't think it wise to lay all my eggs in one basket... Something could always happen to the HD that has an unretrievable treasure on it.
I HATE the damnable E19 flaw
The E19 failure to finalize when there are timed recordings set would make me hostile...
. And everytime I have to do a work around it pains me that Funai
hasn't taken the ethical responsibility to fix this for all of us.
But there doesn't seem to be any cheaper alternatives to what I already have right now. I can all but finalize a DVD on the H2160MW9A
without deleting an otherwise full timer.
As you pointed out, I do have the ability to complete that process with the ZV457MG9 VCR-DVDR combo
that I'm fortunate to also own, and I should be getting my second H2160MW9A sometime this week.
So I do have some flexability with these 3 units to accomplish the finalizing task without too much pain and a little opportune scheduling.
Believe me if there were a reasonably priced refurbished Philips 3575/3576
out there I'd grab it over the H2160MW9A. But it seems that people that have them to sell have already sensed the shortage and are beginning to hike the prices well beyond their initial retail value.http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000P76KXY/...l_1ywf0cu9h9_b
Check out this Amazon customer review "horror" story on a refurbished H2080MW8http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001HVBV8Q/...l_53jurowveg_e
The refurbished/used Philips 3506 you mentioned sounds like a relatively reasonable alternative "if" it will finalize an already written DVD, but even they are being priced out of all reasonable proportion by scalpers...http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_e?...3506&x=20&y=16http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listi...4356561&sr=1-1
So what is one to do?
Based on stories like this and my own personal experience/s I have my very serious doubts that Funai
has either the initiative/will/or technical savvy skills to address this issue in any way other than send out a refurb replacement or offer a refund...
I feel sorry for anyone who has only the H2160MW9A
and cannot find or afford a second one or any other alternative to deleting their que in order to finalize a DVD.
This is a sorry, inexcusable shame and we shouldn't have to deal with it. But it seems on a par with many companies not living up to their word these days... and getting away with it. And is small potatoes by comparison with the really big stuff people are going through. Just another telling sign of the times we live in.
Unfortunetly in North America those of us who want to be able to record programs off the air with the flexability of an HD (or even VHS) DVR w/tuner are rapidly running out of alternatives and so must tolerate this sort of corporate abuse or go without...gastrof
I'm now torn. I'm glad I have mine, despite the problem with finalizing discs, but also wonder if they may not be making them any more at all.
Anyone think this latest problem with availability might be due to the finalization problem, and with Funai and Wal-Mart not wanting to sell any more until the problem's fixed? (Or might it just very well BE a case of them both throwing up their hands and giving up?
the powers that be (Cable/Satellite companies/FCC/politicians/et al
) have gotten in bed together and determined that they can all make more money off of us if they make it next to impossible for those of us who like to record off the air to do so, unless we are feeding their pockets by renting their restrictive equipment.
With the future already written Walmart
and other distributors of the handfull of these HD tuner recorders that once were available to us are cleaning out their stock, and since they are no longer going to carry those items especially have no financial incentive to sell defective ones that they are going to have to refund to disatisfied customers.
and others have no financial incentive to find a fix (for a problem that should have been detected and remedied long before it hit the shelves in the first place) for an item that they are likely being pressured to no longer sell.
Since they have no way to recoup the "repair" expense they likely don't want to invest in it. And so are "throwing up their hands
" and likely writing this defective model and those of us who purchased it off.
So unless someone high within the Funai
corporation, with enough clout and ethical balls, thinks that it is worth our
"good will" and can find a relatively inexpensive way to remedy the E19
flaw, I doubt that it will ever happen.
I really hope that I'm wrong about this, and only time will tell, but it is my current opinion.