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JoeKustra's Avatar JoeKustra 06:47 PM 06-04-2012
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Originally Posted by wajo View Post

I would think DTS would pass thru the coax, just not thru an internal path and line output?

You could test it thru a line output w/no recording involved to be sure?

It sounds like you are saying there is a source of DTS content via an rf signal. I guess FiOS or Satellite could have it, but OTA or cable? But then again, I couldn't test it. Interesting thought though.

jjeff's Avatar jjeff 06:05 AM 06-06-2012
confused.gif no way to tell if someone has posted to this thread now:rolleyes: and the newest posted sticky isn't even at the top:eek: progress......frown.gif
.....and it takes two clicks to get to the last page of this thread mad.gif
Chuck44's Avatar Chuck44 06:14 AM 06-06-2012
The notification E-Mail looked like spam. I almost deleted it.
Sometimes change for the sake of change is NOT a good thing. rolleyes.gif
I guess time will tell.
mrmazda's Avatar mrmazda 06:28 AM 06-06-2012
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Sometimes change for the sake of change is NOT a good thing.
Change for the sake of change is usually not a good thing. Here, the visible changes I've noticed are mostly negative.
dare2be's Avatar dare2be 06:51 AM 06-06-2012
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Change for the sake of change is usually not a good thing. Here, the visible changes I've noticed are mostly negative.
Agreed.

Lots of times a change like this is viewed negatively because of the "getting used to" factor, but then once you become familiar with the new interface, the change ends up being an improvement. In this case, it appears that useful functionality has been removed.
JoeKustra's Avatar JoeKustra 07:35 AM 06-06-2012
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confused.gif no way to tell if someone has posted to this thread now:rolleyes: and the newest posted sticky isn't even at the top:eek: progress......frown.gif
.....and it takes two clicks to get to the last page of this thread mad.gif

You'll have to go to "subscriptions", then bring up the last post. After that is read, new posts will show as a count. Basically they have set each post in all our subscribed threads as "unread".
Kelson's Avatar Kelson 07:52 AM 06-06-2012
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Lots of times a change like this is viewed negatively because of the "getting used to" factor, but then once you become familiar with the new interface, the change ends up being an improvement. In this case, it appears that useful functionality has been removed.
I come here for the content, not the window dressing. I hate it when they change things because someone thinks putting on a new coat of paint will make it more attractive to new users. It's the main reason I loath to upgrade any Microsoft software.
  • The new limited color schemes suck. The blue retro background of the previous interface was very easy on my eyes. The new white or black backgrounds are opposite extremes and are just too harsh.
  • The so-called "sticky list" is now all but useless and should just be eliminated. The threads are listed alphabetically with no usage information so one cannot tell if it is an active or dead sticky or has been recently posted to. The actual sticky threads themselves now appear in the gen pop thread list so what is the point of a sticky list that does nothing more than take up screen space at the top. Get rid of it.
  • The ability to cite single-post links is gone and they eliminated the undo button on the editor -- what kind of editor doesn't have an undo button.
  • I hate the new post dates. I can see where some people would like to see it displayed as "10 min ago" or "2 weeks, 3 days ago" but I prefer to see a date/time. Yes, you can put the cursor over it to pop up the date/time -- so let me set that as a preference.
As you say it will take getting used to.
av-novice's Avatar av-novice 07:53 AM 06-06-2012
... and the time stamp on the post is more descriptive now.

av-n
DonB2's Avatar DonB2 08:23 AM 06-06-2012
Was there any advanced notice that AVS was updating the look?

This reminds me of the GMAIL update from Google - the contrast was so bad I could barely read the email text. I switched to the old version as long as I could before they dumped it and I even wrote Gmail saying I did not like the upgrade and got nothing back from them.

I hope AVS is more responsive.

Hey I might be off topic but I am not big on surprises.
dare2be's Avatar dare2be 08:25 AM 06-06-2012
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Originally Posted by DonB2 View Post

Was there any advanced notice that AVS was updating the look?
This reminds me of the GMAIL update from Google - the contrast was so bad I could barely read the email text. I switched to the old version as long as I could before they dumped it and I even wrote Gmail saying I did not like the upgrade and got nothing back from them.
I felt the same way as you about Gmail and did the exact same thing you did. No response either.
NickTheGreat's Avatar NickTheGreat 08:35 AM 06-06-2012
I admittedly don't like change, but I really don't like this mad.gif

I'm sure I'll get used to it? rolleyes.gif
mrmazda's Avatar mrmazda 08:58 AM 06-06-2012
"Please Wait...", like I have any choice? frown.gif

A sprite to access the whole smiley list, really? eek.gif

Gray text? mad.gif

This was one of those rare sites I frequent that didn't require a user stylesheet specific to the site to undo any stupid site styling.

Heaven help anyone who needs to use this site on a dialup connection. The previous 3 (full) pages (685, 686, 687) average over 260kbytes, not counting any images, external scripts, or CSS. Page 1 is over 920kbytes. The forum's home page is 100kbytes.This page is currently 180kbytes. The three Wajo help file pages I had already loaded in tabs prior to the site redo and still load from cache saved as only 85k, 47k and 72k.
jjeff's Avatar jjeff 10:34 AM 06-06-2012
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confused.gif no way to tell if someone has posted to this thread now:rolleyes: and the newest posted sticky isn't even at the top:eek: progress......frown.gif
.....and it takes two clicks to get to the last page of this thread mad.gif
OK now I see what's going on(but still don't like it). The sticky doesn't show the last post from the sticky thread list but if it's been recently posted to it will show up on the first page of the DVDR search results list with the rest of the threads. Still prefer it to be right next to the sticky and the most recently posted sticky to be the top of the list:)
Still don't like it that from the sticky list that you cannot go to the last page of the sticky, basically requires 2 entries now.
Oh and about the emoticons(or smiles) I also complained about the MORE option after I found out we really won't have any MORE(than we had before) and the limited number we had could easily fit on the REPLY screen without having a extra step to get at the few extra we have, but was told the software we are using is also used by forums that may have more smiles and that's the way it is. Lastly about the smiles:eek: if you are like me and forgo a space after your word(before the smile) you'll only get the code not the smile. Progress eh rolleyes.gif
I also don't like the default or BLACK settings(I was one of the "oddballs" that used RETRO) apparently very very few people used that theme, figures I'd be one tongue.gif

Oh and don't get me started on EDITing mad.gif at some point we will lose the ability to edit posts more than a few minutes old....apparently some people confused.gif (I've never seen this at AVS on the MANY threads that I visit) have been deleting(or editing) their posts after people have commented on them leading to some confusion......if this takes place say goodbye to things like Wajo's updated sticky post or even small updated threads like my Panasonic Models signature thread. Updating the OP will not be possible and therefor useless to maintain a changing informational thread like these frown.gif
Kelson's Avatar Kelson 10:50 AM 06-06-2012
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OK now I see what's going on(but still don't like it). The sticky doesn't show the last post from the sticky thread list but if it's been recently posted to it will show up on the first page of the DVDR search results list with the rest of the threads. Still prefer it to be right next to the sticky and the most recently posted sticky to be the top of the list:)

Yes, and you see that makes the sticky list nothing more than a shortcut list to those threads. It's just not a very useful construct any more.

 

Are you having problems with your screen width? My thread list doesn't go across the screen and stops at the border of that "currently viewing" info block at the upper right.


jjeff's Avatar jjeff 11:00 AM 06-06-2012
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Are you having problems with your screen width? My thread list doesn't go across the screen and stops at the border of that "currently viewing" info block at the upper right.
I am not but it was a common complaint in the "sandbox" forum (beta site for this new forum) which seems to be gone and replaced by this forum.
ClearToLand's Avatar ClearToLand 11:02 AM 06-06-2012
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OK now I see what's going on(but still don't like it). The sticky doesn't show the last post from the sticky thread list but if it's been recently posted to it will show up on the first page of the DVDR search results list with the rest of the threads. Still prefer it to be right next to the sticky and the most recently posted sticky to be the top of the list:)
Yes, and you see that makes the sticky list nothing more than a shortcut list to those threads. It's just not a very useful construct any more.

Are you having problems with your screen width? My thread list doesn't go across the screen and stops at the border of that "currently viewing" info block at the upper right.
Did you read that 'Intro' post by 'Nick'? There's a setting in your profile with the words "Constant Width" - whatever you have now, toggle it.

Not being able to edit FAQs that we've been maintaining for years is going to bother a number of folks. frown.gif

Looks like jjeff is going to have to remember / learn to use extra spaces! biggrin.gif
jjeff's Avatar jjeff 11:30 AM 06-06-2012
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Looks like jjeff is going to have to remember / learn to use extra spaces! biggrin.gif
Ya that shouldn't be a problem, the only reason I didn't do it in that post was to show people what I was talking about. It was probably a shortcut I was doing before along with a couple other shortcuts that are now gone in our improved wink.gif forum...
BTW as to not plug up this sticky thread with non Magnavox talk I'll probably try and refrain from such further talk smile.gif

mad.gifmad.gif unless I'm missing it, it looks like one cannot easily omit a signature thread for posts rolleyes.gif something I did all the time before when posting in non Panasonic type of thread, another feature lost frown.gif

Looks like the default thread in our forum for "new forum" comments is going on here.
mad.gif apparently no way anymore to give a reason for edits.......another feature lost rolleyes.gif this is getting ridiculous!
DonB2's Avatar DonB2 12:15 PM 06-06-2012
Is Wajo on Vacation ?
gastrof's Avatar gastrof 12:19 PM 06-06-2012
I'm personally not all that displeased with the new setup.

If I was, I might do something outlandish with my avatar, or something.
DonB2's Avatar DonB2 12:28 PM 06-06-2012
I noticed our Avatars were all very similar smile.gif
dare2be's Avatar dare2be 12:38 PM 06-06-2012
I just noticed I HAVE an avatar. lol

I think I'm beginning to miss the good ol days of Usenet. tongue.gif
DonB2's Avatar DonB2 01:13 PM 06-06-2012
I guess Wajo has nothing new to say ?
jjeff's Avatar jjeff 01:23 PM 06-06-2012
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I guess Wajo has nothing new to say ?
My guess is he's pissed as the rest of us but trying to ignore it . These new changes are NOT conducive to informational threads like his frown.gif
Well I guess we gained something......kinda like the miniscule size option biggrin.gif
NickTheGreat's Avatar NickTheGreat 01:30 PM 06-06-2012
I'm worried for him. eek.gif
DonB2's Avatar DonB2 02:22 PM 06-06-2012
I do like the maintenance page TV pic. It looks like the old Zenith I sat in front of each Saturday morning until my mother ran the Vacumn Cleaner in front of it till I felt I had to clean my room. "VHF only smile.gif"
gastrof's Avatar gastrof 02:27 PM 06-06-2012
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I'm worried for him. eek.gif

I checked his opening posts in the thread back on page one, and it looks like things survived the transition pretty well.
wajo's Avatar wajo 02:32 PM 06-06-2012
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In case anyone cares, I'm furiously fixing things the transition has wrought.

The page for editing source code now shows the pages have been converted to HTML code/tags/syntax, and our old TABLE format didn't convert well to the new syntax.

It's a major PITA!

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gastrof's Avatar gastrof 02:35 PM 06-06-2012
Well, if it's YOU that's making the old posts look right in this new setup, I think two things.

First, great job, to be on your toes like this.

Second, it STINKS that it's even necessary for you to do such changes in the first place. An update that ruins existing threads and posts?
plplplpl's Avatar plplplpl 02:37 PM 06-06-2012
Animated gifs used as avatars do not animate. This technology has existed since the '80s. mad.gif My Kraftwerk Roboter should move like this:

robot.gif

or this:
roboter.gif

bodhi78's Avatar bodhi78 03:48 PM 06-06-2012
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In case anyone cares, I'm furiously fixing things the transition has wrought.
The page for editing source code now shows the pages have been converted to HTML code/tags/syntax, and our old TABLE format didn't convert well to the new syntax.
It's a major PITA!
biggrin.gif

biggrin.gif Yup, what a PITA. Thanks for the effort, wajo. Looks like it's going to take you a few days eek.gif
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