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post #25891 of 25902 Old 09-13-2014, 01:33 PM
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I read the Amazon reviews. It got seven 5-star reviews and five 1-star reviews. That's not a large enough sample group to be definitive but it doesn't exactly make me feel very confident. I'd wait a while too.
How long would you wait? Sound and Vision announced it as a new product in its November 2012 issue? Mine is due here Tuesday from rakuten.com for $208 delivered ($50 off for paying with a new Rakuten Mastercard that took about 10 days to get).

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I put the HDMI splitter I have in place and seems to keep the signal alive to the STB just fine (or at least the last few shows I have recorded!).

I never thought of that the TV being off was the culprit.
Actually it was only indirectly the culprit. The root culprit was explained by Ken.F in post 25842 , the HDMI cable connected to the cable box without the cable box able to get feedback it expects from a device on the other end of the cable. This is also the reason for the behavior reported in the several posts in thread I made about cable boxes not providing simultaneous analog cable box output while HDMI cables were connected to them, posts about which several people complained here.

Today I confirmed your experience with my new Etekcity 2X1 HDMI splitter, allowing me to add it plus one HDMI cable while removing 5 analog cable sets and 2 other devices that had been rigged up to work around the analog video output shutdown when the cable box got no feedback from HDMI. To perform the confirmation I moved a bedroom TV within cable reach of the main TV so I could watch both while moving cables and switching among sources and destinations. Now I have all cable box AV outputs in use and working whenever the cable box is turned on, whether TV and/or Magnavox and/or VCR are on or off; and, the Mag is able to record anamorphic instead of boxed by having routed one HDMI splitter output through a HDMI to composite converter to the Mag.

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Hello - I have the Magnavox 513 and loved it. Charter just transitioned to all digital format so now every tv requires a cable box. Previously I was using a cable splitter so I could watch one show on cable and record another on the dvr, of course that no longer works. I am looking for a cheap easy way to do it. I have read a lot on this forum and am totally overwhelmed! Is there any device I can attach to the dvr so I can record something other than what I'm watching? Some kind of cablecard capable tuner?
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Hello - I have the Magnavox 513 and loved it. Charter just transitioned to all digital format so now every tv requires a cable box. Previously I was using a cable splitter so I could watch one show on cable and record another on the dvr, of course that no longer works. I am looking for a cheap easy way to do it. I have read a lot on this forum and am totally overwhelmed! Is there any device I can attach to the dvr so I can record something other than what I'm watching? Some kind of cablecard capable tuner?
When you say that Charter transitioned to an all digital format that could mean a couple things. It could mean that they eliminated all analog broadcasts but still broadcast clear QAM digital. It could also mean that they have both eliminated analog and also encrypted all digital broadcasts.

If the former, the magnavox will still function as before and tune in all the clear QAM digital channels with its digital tuner. If the latter, you are pretty much screwed and the only choice you would have to record something other than what you are watching would be to rent a second cable box just for the magnavox. At that point it is probably cheaper to rent a multi-tuner cable co DVR than to rent a pair of STB's.

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...the only choice you would have to record something other than what you are watching would be to rent a second cable box just for the magnavox.
Another choice could be using an antenna on the Magnavox for the local broadcast channels if reception is good in that area.
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How long would you wait?
I'd wait until it had at least 4 good reviews for each bad review. With 5 one-star reviews I would need to see 20 or more 4-star or higher reviews.
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Another choice could be using an antenna on the Magnavox for the local broadcast channels if reception is good in that area.
True, but the OP didn't indicate OTA was in the picture so I kept my response targeted.

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When you say that Charter transitioned to an all digital format that could mean a couple things. It could mean that they eliminated all analog broadcasts but still broadcast clear QAM digital. It could also mean that they have both eliminated analog and also encrypted all digital broadcasts.

If the former, the magnavox will still function as before and tune in all the clear QAM digital channels with its digital tuner. If the latter, you are pretty much screwed and the only choice you would have to record something other than what you are watching would be to rent a second cable box just for the magnavox. At that point it is probably cheaper to rent a multi-tuner cable co DVR than to rent a pair of STB's.

Thank you for the replies. Everything is encrypted - so I am in the screwed category! I don't record much so I can't justify paying more each month for dvr service - the Magnavox was really perfect for what I needed - just annoying to lose it!
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Thank you for the replies. Everything is encrypted - so I am in the screwed category! I don't record much so I can't justify paying more each month for dvr service - the Magnavox was really perfect for what I needed - just annoying to lose it!
Sorry, should you continue subscribing to cable, you now have few choices to record one channel while watching another -- all of them will cost you something extra per month.
  • You can rent a second STB for the magnavox.
  • You can rent a multi-tuner DVR from the cable co
  • You can buy a used TiVo Premier off eBay and rent the cable card
  • You can buy a cable card tuner for your PC or Laptop and rent the cable card -- then use Windows Media Center on Win-7 (preferably) or Win-8 Pro to record and playback those few programs you want to record while watching something else.

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Everything is encrypted - so I am in the screwed category! I don't record much so I can't justify paying more each month for dvr service
Depending on what programs are your main interest, there are options other than OTA, satellite and cable for those with broadband Internet, and more are on the way. Google IPTV to see what's here and what's coming. You can make your sentiment known by dropping Charter for TV, and telling it why in a snail mail letter.

With broadband Internet and/or OTA antenna, you could use a smart TV for watching directly, and a STB, such as Roku, to provide programming for your 513 to record. Without a smart TV, you could use separate STBs for 513 and TV to retain ability to watch one program while recording something else. STB programming is available both via subscription and free. The subs for STBs are much cheaper than cable and satellite.

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