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post #151 of 212 Old 09-11-2008, 01:52 PM
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Sony ht7200 or samsung as720. Can't guarantee the sammy will pass the new hdcp tests though.
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I wonder why would sony include bitstream option at all on PS3 if linear pcm this much better?

It's an option. You can either let PS3 decode it (PS3 will output LPCM) or if you want to let your receiver decode it (PS3 outputs bitstream and receiver decodes it to LPCM). It's not about LPCM better than bitstream, it's about who decodes the bitstream.
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^^^ The PS3 WILL NOT bitstream Dolby TrueHD or DTS-MA from a Blu-ray disc. It will of course bitstream the legacy DD and DTS from regular DVDs.
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Hey guys, just wondering if the Sony HT-SS1300 would work?
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Grand thought it would noticed the 2000 was basically the same spec just in a different shiny box!
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^^^ The PS3 WILL NOT bitstream Dolby TrueHD or DTS-MA from a Blu-ray disc. It will of course bitstream the legacy DD and DTS from regular DVDs.

That's good to know. I did not know that. I'll be buying a PS3 in the future.
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Hi all-

Pardon me if this has since been posted, but have recently moved from the US to Sydney Australia, and looking to somewhat replicate what I had back in the US.

Looking for a place in Sydney that sells a HTIB system, hopefully one that was listed in this thread's initial listing, that also has HDMI audio processing (5.1 or 7.1 either). The list posted in this thread is a great start, but I don't know if the models listed, especially the Onkyo HTIB models, are available in Australia or not. If they are, does anyone know of where I can find them in Sydney? Only been here less than a week, so still not too sure where to look (checked out Bing Lee, Dick Smith's Powerhouse to name a few, but no Onkyo so far)...

Thanks so much for any advice...!

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The 6100/7100 and up look nice. The 6100 might work perfect for me.

Anyone have some personal experiences with the 6100 or any others?

Personal opinions or knowledge would be greatly appreciated!
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How about this for an idea? Try reading the several pertinent threads on this forum's first page in which the title includes "6100" and/or "7100". Jeez!
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You have more posts than me... which means you're smarter.

I, on the other hand, missed that information. i usually just read and learn without asking questions (notice the 6 posts i've made in over a year).

The main reason I don't post much is because of people like you who FREAK OUT when someone misses something. LOL.

whatever.
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^^^Suggesting that you do something so obvious as what I did doesn't mean I'm smarter or that I "FREAK OUT". Your reaction could, however, reflect on your powers of observation, reading comprehension, desire to do things for yourself, etc. LOL and, as you said, whatever.
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I have been looking through the forums and find them very useful and I am learning a lot form it, thank you all. Forgive me if this question has already been answered. I'm looking at Yamaha HTR-6140B as being the avr that I can plug my PS3 into and get the full benefit of the Blu-ray audio. I will be using HDMI into the avr and then from there to the hdtv (Sammy 40A550). Also running a component cable from the hdtv box (it doesn't have HDMI) into the avr and connecting that to the hdtv. The Yamaha does come in a HTIB config in my area, and that is what I'm looking for as it will be fine for my setup. Does anybody have any experience with that model? It doesn't say that it is "pass through" so I'm thinking that it should be able to handle the audio output from the PS3. Also, in that configuration (everything plugged into the avr and then from the avr into the tv) will I need to have the avr on all the time or will the PS3 audio work on the tv (just to play a game for instance)? Thanks for any advice. There is so much information on these forums and I would appreciate any assistance.

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I am in the market right now to buy an hdtv and a home theater setup. I have a ps3 and was thinking about buying a samsung 550 series or higher (or maybe some sony equivalent) along with the sony HT-SS2300 HTIB setup. I realize that with this surround sound system, I will be able to do linear PCM via the hdmi input on the receiver and get the most out of my ps3. My question is how would I hook up my hd dvr box from comcast? Do I hook it to the receiver like the ps3 and then use the output hdmi from the receiver to the tv or do I have to hook the dvr box to the tv and then use an optical out from the tv to the receiver? Also do I have to adjust any settings on the dvr box to get the best sound quality out of it? My ps3 is my main blu-ray player and I will be gaming alot. I was just looking for some guidance on this because when it comes to home theater I am a noob Also if any of you have suggestions for better equipment/setup that isn't too expensive, my ears are open. Thanks.
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you should use hdmi to hook to receiver just like ps3 then use hdmi out to TV from receiver. on the DVR go into the settings and set the audio to output hdmi

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I am considering getting an HTiB, but am not quite sure if it would be a good investment for how I'd use it. I have a ps3 and mainly use it for games and some SD-DVD's, but mainly for games. I currently have a Sony str-de845 receiver, which is about 8 years old, does have 5.1, but no trueHD or anything real modern. The ps3 is currently hooked up to my receiver thru optical.

I've been looking at the Onkyo TX-SR5100, Sony SS-2300 and the CT-100 HTiB. I'm only looking to spend $400 or less. I'd love a new toy, however, if I don't notice a significant sound improvement due to my viewing/gaming habits, maybe it would be better to save my money. Thanks in advance.
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So what is the greatest HTIB of all times irrespective of price?
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To darkleafar,
Kudos on tackling this subject. I'm new to the HT game and I found it very helpful.
I do have one small quible: You state "In other words, Linear PCM has already been decoded and is ready to be outputted through the speakers; whereas Bitstream is a virgin signal and must be decoded at some point......". In the interest of lessening confusion I think that it should read something like "In other words, Linear PCM has already been decoded and is ready to be converted from digital to analog and outputted through the speakers; whereas Bitstream is a virgin signal and must be decoded at some point.....". Small point that I personally think adds clarity to a confusing subject.
Thanks for the time and effort you have put into this sticky.
Just bought a Sammy HL67A750 and I love it, plenty of other stuff to acquire.
Regards,
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So what is the greatest HTIB of all times irrespective of price?

You gotta favorite??

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You gotta favorite??

I have read very favorable reviews on the LinnClassik Movie. It seems to have everything you need, and you have Linn`s quality and craftmanship.

Only thing is that I have not had the opportunity to hearit. How about anyone else?
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First off, I am not an expert on audio/video things, so forgive me if the answer should be obvious. I have an older HDTV (Panasonic PT53WX54J) that does not have any HDMI inputs, only a single DVI input. A new TV is not possible at the moment, and I am looking at some of the new HTIB's. I am guessing the way I need to hook everything up, I would need to run HDMI cables from the DVD player, and the cable box to the receiver, let the receiver process the sound and have the sound coming from the receivers speakers, then run the video from the HDMI out of the receiver to the DVI input on the TV through a conversion cable? I would love to get a new TV, but that is not possible right now, so hopefully the previously mentioned connection setup will work.

*EDIT* Also the TV only supports up to 1080i, will the HTIB's mentioned in this thread output 1080i video rather than full 1080p?

Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks!

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Denon
-AVR-2308CI
-AVR-788
-AVR-1908


Samsung
-AS720

Sony
-HT-7200DH (Available May)
-HT-CT100
-HT-SS2300 (Coming this summer)
-HT-SF2000
-HT-SS2000
-STR-DG720
-STR-DG820
-STR-DG910
-STR-DG920


Onkyo
-HT-SP907
-HT-SP908
-TX-SR605
-TX-SR705
-TX-SR875
*All Onkyo receivers models SR6XX and above will be able (or already are able) to handle HDMI audio.

Bose


Harman Kardon
-AVR-247
-AVR-347
-AVR-254/354/754
(coming spring/summer 2008)

Yamaha
-RX-V661
-RX-V663

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Does anyone know of a receiver/HTIB that has come out in the last 8 months that could be added to the list? I am just beginning to do some research into HTIBs since my full-sized system has been banished to the man-cave/basement in our new house. If I find any that support HDMI audio decoding I'll be sure to post them here.

In a semi-related note, can most new HT receivers output everything (regardless of input type) on HDMI? I'd like to run a single HDMI cable to my TV and let the receiver handle switching between HDMI/Component/Composite signals
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Do any of the listed AVR / HTIB support wireless speaker setups? I've researched all of their tech spec pages on Amazon but am not sure if I overlooked anything with the similar model numbers. Is wireless frowned upon?
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They can be hooked to a Rocketfish wireless kit. Almost any AVR can.

The only ones that include wireless from the factory are usually the Panasonic HTIB with integrated disc players (be it DVD, or Blu-Ray, or whatever) and similar models from other makes. Anything with a standalone receiver equivalent will most likely not include wireless, but that's where the Rocketfish comes in. There are other kits from other brands, too, if you look around.

Wireless has its issues (interference, potential sound quality problems, etc.) but it'll probably improve in time. If I had to have wireless, I'd get a Rocketfish and a good AVR from Denon, Onkyo, etc., rather than mess with those integrated jobs.

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They can be hooked to a Rocketfish wireless kit. Almost any AVR can.

The only ones that include wireless from the factory are usually the Panasonic HTIB with integrated disc players (be it DVD, or Blu-Ray, or whatever) and similar models from other makes.

Thanks for the reply. I own the Panasonic HTIB wireless system and am pleased with the quality and zero interference (I have my wireless router literally next to it) with the exception that it doesn't decode DTS through the optical input. Major bummer.

I ask because I'll eventually upgrade to one of these listed receivers but will not be able to drill holes or have cables running around.

I haven't been able to find out how the Rocketfish connections work.
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I haven't been able to find out how the Rocketfish connections work.

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Excellent. Much appreciated.

It is underpowered in relation to the Panasonic rear wireless amp.

Rocketfish: 25w x 2
Panasonic: 34w x 2

And of course severely underpowered in relation to direct output of these receivers.

Denon and Yamaha: 90 - 130w (8 ohm) per surround channel
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how do you guys see the samsung 720? are there any more uptodate samsung models out that can do lpcm?
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how do you guys see the samsung 720? are there any more uptodate samsung models out that can do lpcm?

Are you also wondering the difference between the ht-as720s vs. ht-as720st ? I certainly am.
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Hey,

New member here. After hearing fabulous reviews on the SS2300, I decided to buy it. However, I am not getting the satisfaction and quality of sound as most of you. As a first time HTIB owner with low expectations, I am not impressed at all.

While watching Iron-Man and King Kong (both Blu-Ray) on my PS3, the sound level is still not that loud at volume 30+! Even at volume 30, my small 13x13 room is no where near shaking during action scenes. The volume at 30+ is comparable to the max tv volume, and my tv is not that loud.

Everything (PS3, Xbox360, HD Cable box) is connected through Monster M series HDMI cables. There is sound coming from all 5 speakers as well.

Only at max level 40, do I get the rumbling feeling, but many of you claim that your room/floor is rumbling even at volume 20-25.

I've tried auto and manually adjusting the settings on the receiver but still no luck. I've manually adjusted the audio output setting on the PS3 also to PCM 96.

When watching television on my Comcast HD Cable Box on max level 40, it is no where near rumbling watching the Celtics-Bulls playoff game in the 4th quarter.

I do not expect these 5.1's to sound like I'm at a rock or rap concert, but these have been really disappointing to someone with low expectations.

Lastly, I do not have any hearing problems nor am I an audiophile, but what is wrong with my SS2300 system? What am I doing wrong? Is there anything I can do to get similar results to the rest of you?

Btw, my system is as follows:
Samsung LN40A550 - HDMI
SS2300 - HDMI
PS3 - HDMI
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