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post #181 of 1093 Old 12-10-2008, 07:23 AM
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Are placing the back speakers together the recommended placement?

http://www.thx.com/home/setup/speakers/back.html

The Onkyo HT-S9100THX HTIB PDF manual also shows a picture which indicates the speakers are to be placed side by side to each other.

There is another setting with a 60 degree spread...it is your link at the bottom of the page. That is how mine are setup....not together.
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Will this system fill 4k cubic feet of living room, or do I need a more powerful system?
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Will this system fill 4k cubic feet of living room, or do I need a more powerful system?

Yes. How high is the ceiling? 8'? 9'?

8' ceiling is a 500 s.f. space - easy.
9' ceiling is a 444.44 s.f. space - easy.

This system would work well in 625 s.f. (25' x 25') and even bigger depending on the acoustics of the room. However, anything bigger than 25' x 25', I would start looking for separate dedicated speakers. Ultimately it comes down to personal preference.
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any pics?
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Thanx Mr. Fuzz.
My room is: 18 x 25 x 9
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For the record, I enjoyed my first blu ray experience with this system last evening. I can't imagine why anyone would think they need to spend more money on an audio system. I didn't have the volume cranked higher than -18. The sub was giving everyone a massage, and the mid and high ranges were clear and crisp. This is a truly impressive system for the money.
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Hi,

First of all I want to say this is a great forum!
I was wondering witch 7.1 THX system to buy, the Onkyo HT-S9100THX or the Onkyo TX-SR 875 + Canton Movie 150-QX set (+2 additional Canton speakers).
Which set has the best sound quality?

Sorry for my bad English

Thx
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Hi,

First of all I want to say this is a great forum!
I was wondering witch 7.1 THX system to buy, the Onkyo HT-S9100THX or the Onkyo TX-SR 875 + Canton Movie 150-QX set (+2 additional Canton speakers).
Which set has the best sound quality?

Sorry for my bad English

Thx

I dont know how sounds Canton, but i know that onkyo sounds really good

P.s Canton Movie 150-QX is not THX CERTIFIED.
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HELP - Everywhere is now out of stock!!
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So when listening to regular tv which speakers does the sound come thu? Can you get it thru all the speakers?
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HELP - Everywhere is now out of stock!!

+1

Was really wanting one before xmas.
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So when listening to regular tv which speakers does the sound come thu? Can you get it thru all the speakers?

It depends on your receiver settings, TV settings, and the signal.

One of the following usually:

1. Center and front channels on most cable signals.
2. Pass-through setting to the TV will depend on your TV, but usually 2.1 through your TV speakers (for most TVs).
3. Depending on the signal, the receiver can force 5.1.

There are probably more options/possibilities but it depends on your components and the signal.

Hope this helps.

BTW...I could be all wet...this is just what I have experienced so far.
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+1

Was really wanting one before xmas.

+2
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+3 guess I'll have to wait.

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found them at Universal Mania - 750.00 and 15.00 shipping!
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found them at Universal Mania - 750.00 and 15.00 shipping!

Out of stock.
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Refurbed units at shoponkyo.com for $699 + 10% off + $10 off for first time Club Onkyo buyers + free shipping.

Looking at $620 for this. Looks in stock cause it is orderable. I wouldn't hesitate for a second to pull the trigger on this. I just bought the S7100 as a refurb and you really could sell it as new and no one would ever know. I got everything including speaker wire and even speaker wire labels.

Edit: My mistake looks like the THX unit on there is the older THX HTIB.
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I purchased the s9100thx a week ago. Like the others say. The packaging is definitely big but not a determining factor. To fit it in a car you would have to open the box and place the parts in your car indiviually.

Based on other posting I had the idea that this system was "loud." Although the system can pack a punch

When comparing it to my previous system. Which was pretty old. Sony reciever (7 years old, 5.1dts compatible, optical inputs) w/ 4 JBL speakers hooked up (27+ years old 12" woofer 5" mid 3" tweeters, made w/ cardboard speakers not plastic like the newer ones) and 1 center speaker by sony. Note* there was no sub hooked up so the system was really 5.0. I would turn up the reciever 50% and the system would literally shake the entire house

W/ the 9100thx to get a little feel/ sound the system has to be turned up to -20 which is around ~70% of it's total power. Although you can get a sound w/ feeling from the system note that you would have to be running the reciever at around 90%+ of it's total capability to get a decent feeling (not wall shaking)

Oh yea, in case your wondering the subwoofer sits ~5ft away from me on the 9100thx system. So distance is not a factor. While with my old system the speakers were all at least 13ft away.


9100thx Pros and Cons

Pros
*Highs mids and lows very clear sounding / THX
*System is small enough to fit in almost any environment
*System has enough power for a small living room
*HDMI upscale
*7.1 w/ ability to decode Dolby TrueHD & Dolby Digital Plus
*1080p upscaling
*remote, very comfortable easy to find buttons/ feel
*Lots of inputs

Cons
*No feel of sound
*System very over rated in power specs
*Reciever doesn't give the option to setup big/ small speakers, (for future upgrades)
*under powered for bigger livingroom.
*Performance over rated

Rating the system. I would give the 9100thx

5/10 stars when comparing to all home theater
8/10 when comparing it to only HTIB
8/10 in sound quality
3/10 in feel
9/10 in size (I like that all the speakers are small and can get loud)
8/10 in Price
7/10 in future proof.

Overall 6/10

Furthuer dicussion on system grading. Although it's a great HTIB I'm very much old school in that I like feel the movie action, feel the music and be part of it. Which is a huge factor when being lost in the motion. I mean if I went to a closed arena concert held in a large room or club and I didn't feel the scream of the electric guitar, lows of the bass and beats of the drums. The performer better do something extrodinary to be considered a good concert.

And I'm very very dissatisfied w/ how the 9100thx performed. To have to run the reciever at it's peak to get decent sound only means that it is not going to have a long life. Especially when comparing it to my older Home Theater which I gave to my Dad now. Damn you Onkyo! I don't understand how an older 5 speaker system w/ no sub can kill a newer 8 speaker(including sub) in sound quality, performance, and feel. And also the fact that they're selling this system as a "1200w" which is 600watts more than my old sony. If Onkyo under rated this system as a 300watt system I would probably be pretty happy with that, but I was expecting lobster and instead got a catfish.

Future proof I gave a 7/10 because although it does have all the the latest features HDMI, optical, Dolby TrueHD, etc. It does not contain any hardware that's new and not in use today but may be in the future. I mean when I was buying that sony reciever 7 years ago it had four optical inputs which was pretty much unheard of during that time but is basicly a standard now. The onkyo does contain Dolby TrueHD and dolby Digital plus decoders for the future. The lack of being able to upgrade to bigger also dropped the future proofing.


Take note* that I do not endorese sony. I think personally think there sound department needs to get better and sucks. I've had a sony car stereo was terrible so they do need inprovement. I do like JL Audio subs which I hope they enter Home entertainment because they have a reputation for understating ther subs W3 which can perform double if not triple the power and sound stated, but that's another story. For JBL, I would say there older speakers, cardboard, are way better then there new smaller plastic speakers.

If asked to recommend the 9100thx I would say, I'm keeping my HTIB but would say yes and no to certain people because of the cons listed above

Onkyo if your reading this, nice step, but you have yards to cover to be a great HTIB
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So when listening to regular tv which speakers does the sound come thu? Can you get it thru all the speakers?

Use the "All channel stereo" setting. It works best for music too.
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I'd just like to say this system isn't supposed to be "loud" and wall shaking. It is supposed to sound really really good hence the THX. They are going for more SQL than SPL. I feel 100% confident that at high volume levels the Onkyo is still producing good sound compared to the distortion that was your old system.
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I'd have to say the system does sound really good. Especially for movies. I watched Cloverfield this weekend and the bass at the beginning was excellent. Master and Commander was really great also. I do have to agree that maybe the power is a bit overstated. It does seem like you have to turn it up around -22 or so to really start to feel the movie. I have mine set up in a 12 x 14 room and to me it's almost perfect. One thing I may do in the future is upgrade to an SVS sub. When listening to music I think there could be a little more punch in the bass department. It's not bad for music but it could be a little better. I think the SVS PB13-Ultra could clear that up. Anyway for the money it's great. Spend a little time tweaking the setup, run Audyssey, tweak a little more, turn the volume on the sub a little past the THX mark and it's pretty good.
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I agree for 100% with jdubau55.
Great system with great sound!!!
For me the speakers are most beautiful on speaker stands, but that's my opinion.
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I don't disagree with anything said in that review, however, they were really harsh. They should have been a lot more objective.

Also, they were talking about the DVD player that comes with it. This system doesn't come with a DVD player. I have to almost wonder if they tested the right system.

It's the HT-S990THX they have tested.
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Now that the Christmas rush has passed, has anyone seen this online (in stock) anywhere at the $800 price point?

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Have not seen it in stock anywhere (regardless of price, minus Ebay of course) since 12/15! I cannot believe it takes that long to replenish their stock but hey who knows. :\\
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I'm not an audiophile so maybe this is a stupid question--but since I don't know the answer I'll ask it and take my lumps!

I can't stand the surround speakers on my bookshelves because they're too tall (this is going in a libarary and all there are are bookshelves!), so does it hurt the sound to lay them on their sides?

I have the option to stand them on the lower shelves, which are higher, but then they'd only be about 3 feet off the floor at the base, which also wouldn't be optimum with high-backed chairs.

So anyway, how bad is it, if it is, to lay speakers like these on their sides?
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I ordered mine from Universal Mania since 12/16 and still waiting for them to ship; I have only seen them on Amazon but at the 1k price point.

I did find another sale at Accessories4Less at 650.00 (not free shipping) but they are out of stock and say it is Factory Reconditioned; how can they already have refurb units out so quickly?
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I'm not an audiophile so maybe this is a stupid question--but since I don't know the answer I'll ask it and take my lumps!

I can't stand the surround speakers on my bookshelves because they're too tall (this is going in a libarary and all there are are bookshelves!), so does it hurt the sound to lay them on their sides?

I have the option to stand them on the lower shelves, which are higher, but then they'd only be about 3 feet off the floor at the base, which also wouldn't be optimum with high-backed chairs.

So anyway, how bad is it, if it is, to lay speakers like these on their sides?

i dont think that it really matters if its upright or on its side. as long as the speaker is facing the right direction (towards you) then it shouldnt matter. make sure that there is a little room behind the speaker too.
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This entire thread makes me laugh. Questions asked by noobs, answered by noobs. LMAO.

Look how many people joined just to post in this thread. My favorite response? Whereisstan. Haha! I love how you try to sound professional when you obviously don't know what you're talking about.

For a HTIB, I'm sure this system satisfied most of your guys/gals needs. If you can only spend 1000.00, you probably can't do much better. But try searching the forums for answers.
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