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Hello,
I was wondering if the HTiB of the Bose or the 5.1 speaker only systems were going to update anytime soon? Hasn't been updated in a couple of years and don't want to buy a system with only 2 HDMI ports available. Will there be a new one coming out with more HDMI?
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I have been wondering the same. Owning a LS - 48 I can sure see where they could clean some connections up and offer more HDMI connectivity.
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Move away from Bose if you want and uptodate reciever with more than 2 HDMI inputs and the ability to listen to the DTS-HD, or Dolby TrueHD codecs for Blu-Ray audio.

Bose is slow to update their systems
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Just Announced.Bose v35 System
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Just Announced.Bose v35 System

$3,299...... DAMN its overpriced
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I kinda like Bose stuff and have owned their products in the past.

I was checking out the new V35 system today online,,,, $3,299.00,, no way in hell would I pay that kinda price !!!

Its worth perhaps $1,000.00,,, but $3,300.00,,,, Bose has really lost their minds.

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I'm surprised at these surprised reactions. I know the price is high, but the V30 system's price wasn't much less -- about $3000 if I remember correctly.

A cheaper option is the new V25, which is $2500. The only difference is the speakers.
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They've also announced the Lifestyle T20 for 1,999:
http://www.bose.com/controller?url=/...lass/index.jsp

I waited all this time and got one extra HDMI port. I'm glad they finally updated their systems.
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Everyone seems to be stating that the Bose is overpriced. If my main goals are to get:
-Small speakers, like the Bose
-Small receiver
-At least 3 HDMI inputs on the back of the receiver
-At least 1 Component Connection on the back of the receiver

What alternatives do I have? The T20 is 2K.
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Just get a real reciever, Bose doesn't list their specs for a reason cause they would be embarassed. There is not even talk about HD audio decoding from Bose

http://www.orbaudio.com/ has the small speakers which actually sound good
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Thanks... took a look at the Orb and it was 798 just for the speakers with no receiver. Looking at about 1200 anyway. Any cheaper options?
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Thanks... took a look at the Orb and it was 798 just for the speakers with no receiver. Looking at about 1200 anyway. Any cheaper options?

Whats the size of your room?
Do you have a requirement that the speakers be white or black?
Are you really against getting a real reciever? (Bose slim recievers are old technology, and you are kicking yourself in the butt requiring that)
Do you only want speakers that are small in size?
What are all your requirements in a system?
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For $1,302 you can get an Orb speaker system, with Yamaha RX-V467, and speaker wire and sub cable
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Went to the website and it said it has 6 HD sources 4 HDMI & 2 component. I saw only 3 HDMI in and one HDMI to the TV.

I checked the manual and the system has one HDMI on the front. With an iPod, that's 7 devices that can be connected, not bad. It looks like it's probably the best receiver that Bose has made to date... But $2000 to $3300? I'm not sure. But havent they always been around the same price?
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Whats the size of your room?
Do you have a requirement that the speakers be white or black?
Are you really against getting a real reciever? (Bose slim recievers are old technology, and you are kicking yourself in the butt requiring that)
Do you only want speakers that are small in size?
What are all your requirements in a system?
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For $1,302 you can get an Orb speaker system, with Yamaha RX-V467, and speaker wire and sub cable

Hello..
-100% black speakers
-Too crazy of sound is not important. The look of the system is better. Slim is much preferred.
-Yes, small only. I have larger speakers and I do not like that.
-Essentially, what I mentioned. Looks good and has the specs above.
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Went to the website and it said it has 6 HD sources 4 HDMI & 2 component. I saw only 3 HDMI in and one HDMI to the TV.

I checked the manual and the system has one HDMI on the front. With an iPod, that's 7 devices that can be connected, not bad. It looks like it's probably the best receiver that Bose has made to date... But $2000 to $3300? I'm not sure. But havent they always been around the same price?

What scare is the HDMI inputs have L and R RCA audio inputs meaning that most likely Bose is using outdated HDMI inputs that is can't even accept audio from HDMI like all newest generation recievers have. That means the Bose can NOT decode the newest Dolby TrueHD or DTS-HD Master Audio which recievers costing much less have the ability
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Hello..
-100% black speakers
-Too crazy of sound is not important. The look of the system is better. Slim is much preferred.
-Yes, small only. I have larger speakers and I do not like that.
-Essentially, what I mentioned. Looks good and has the specs above.

Size of your room? Why small satelite systems are estecially pleasing in smaller rooms they do not do well. So I need to know the size of your room

Here are some examples of possible set-ups
Recievers:
-Denon AVR-1910
-Denon AVR-1610
-Pioneer VSX-920
-Pioneer VSX-1020
-Onkyo TX-SR608

Speaker Systems
-Energy Take Classic 5.1 set (This is an extremely highly rated speaker set said to sound better than stuff 2-3times more expensive, back when it was $800)
-Polk RM95 5.0 set with Bic F12 Subwoofer
-Energy RC- Micro 5.1 set
-Mirage Nanosat 5.1
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What scare is the HDMI inputs have L and R RCA audio inputs meaning that most likely Bose is using outdated HDMI inputs that is can't even accept audio from HDMI like all newest generation recievers have. That means the Bose can NOT decode the newest Dolby TrueHD or DTS-HD Master Audio which recievers costing much less have the ability

I think that is weird also... but your assumption is incorrect

"Does the system support high-definition audio found on Blu-ray media?
Yes, this system can decode both Dolby TruHD and uncompressed multi-channel PCM. "
http://www.bose.com/controller?url=/...ex.jsp#manuals

And the T20 doesn't have RCA?
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Thanks for the suggestions. I took a look at all of them, but I may just go with the Bose.
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What scare is the HDMI inputs have L and R RCA audio inputs meaning that most likely Bose is using outdated HDMI inputs that is can't even accept audio from HDMI like all newest generation recievers have.

The only reason for those RCA inputs is to use the Bose link feature to have audio in another room.
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The only reason for those RCA inputs is to use the Bose link feature to have audio in another room.

Odd, but at least we have an answer.
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One thing to consider is will the Bose HDMI's support and work with all the new 3D displays and BluRay player's that are just around the corner.

I suspect that these new Bose systems do not support 3D.

I do like Bose systems and have owned a few LifeStyle's and 321 systems in the past,,,,,, but no HDMI 3D support would be a deal breaker for me.

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I suspect that these new Bose systems do not support 3D.

Good call, It took a bit of searching but acording to http://www.twice.com/article/453020-...ater_Setup.php "The system's HDMI inputs and output do not support 3D passthrough." Why is it that they finally make a cool receiver, and not use HDMI 1.4?
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Good call, It took a bit of searching but acording to http://www.twice.com/article/453020-...ater_Setup.php "The system's HDMI inputs and output do not support 3D passthrough." Why is it that they finally make a cool receiver, and not use HDMI 1.4?

Cause they want to keep their production cost low to make more extreme profits

Something is wrong with entry level recievers from other companies have v1.4 HDMI ports but Bose a higher end company chooses to for get something so simple
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To be fair HDMI 1.4 just came out 2 months ago and only a few receivers have 1.4... that being said, this system came out a few days ago
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Like I said,,, I do like Bose stuff and am not a Bose basher,,,,, but Bose is ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS very late in the game when it comes to inputs and outputs and current technology.

It was years after component inputs were common place before Bose included them,,,, while $25.00 dollar upscaling DVD players were selling at WalMart, Bose was still only offering S-Video outputs and inputs.

HDMI has been out for more than a few years now and this is the first Bose system to come out with HDMI inputs and outputs,,,, it would only figure that Bose would use entry level HDMI.

Sometimes Im not sure why I like or defend Bose on this forum,,, in the last few years they have been pissing even me off with the dumbass choices thay make.

Bose has great customer service, cool sleek looking systems that are very user friendly and easy to install,,, they do so many things right,,, but then screw everything up with their crazy high prices and being 10 steps behind the current and evolving technologies.

Geeeze,,,, I feel like Im one step away from becoming a Bose basher

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HDMI has been out for more than a few years now and this is the first Bose system to come out with HDMI inputs and outputs,,,, it would only figure that Bose would use entry level HDMI.

I dont know about everything else, but their previous systems had HDMI inputs/outputs in 2007 http://www.arnnet.com.au/article/195..._pcs/?img=1041. I was thinking about getting one then.

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It was years after component inputs were common place before Bose included them,,,, while $25.00 dollar upscaling DVD players were selling at WalMart, Bose was still only offering S-Video outputs and inputs.

As for component I googled that and found this http://www.svideo.com/lifestyle35.html and this http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=270583174759. The first one said "The Bose Lifestyle 28 and Lifestyle 35 provides video output for ... component video by making a special selection that allows the component video output via the composite and s-video connections. There's no "conversion" of S-Video/Composite Video to Component Video taking place - the jacks are used only to pipe the proper signals once the selection is made." wtf?? So I went to the Bose website and found a manual for a system in 2001. It looks like Bose did component video externally... Weird!
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Davyo, if this system had HDMI 1.4 (disregarding sound, that debate can take place elsewhere) what would you think of them?
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I dont know about everything else, but their previous systems had HDMI inputs/outputs in 2007 http://www.arnnet.com.au/article/195..._pcs/?img=1041. I was thinking about getting one then.

You would be correct and I do stand corrected,,, I had forgotten about the V20 and V30 systems,,,, I guess I was only thinking about the LifeStyle systems and the 321's.

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Davyo, if this system had HDMI 1.4 (disregarding sound, that debate can take place elsewhere) what would you think of them?

If it had HDMI 1.4 and the price was lower then I think it would be a great system and very tempting to buy,,,, as far as sound,,,, personaly I have always liked the Bose sound.

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Thanks for the suggestions. I took a look at all of them, but I may just go with the Bose.

Consider the Energy Take Classic 5.1 set. These are extremely highly rated system just google the reviews for them.

With a real reciever you would be better off in the long run


Though if you go with bose I am sure spending that much on a system you will force yourself to be happy with it. Though know for the price there are better systems out there.
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If you want HDMI 1.4, check out the Onkyo website. The HT-S5300 HTiB has HDMI 1.4 repeaters and is a powerful system. The TX-SR608 receiver is THX Select2 certified, has HDMI 1.4 repeaters and a multitude of hookup options. Either of these can be had for around $500 - $600.
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