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Hi. I am looking for a solution to the garbage TV speakers on my CRT. I recently bought a Patriot Box Office, so I don't need a DVD or BR player and am now looking for something halfway decent to up the movie experience a notch.

I have been scouring craigslist, but I am not sure what are good deals and what are not.

My budget is a comical ~$100, but I don't need anything fancy, just a few audio inputs (optical would be nice) and some decent sounding speakers. It doesn't have to be 5.1, I would go 2.1 if I knew the overall sound would be better.


Please help if you can.


Here are some links I have been looking at:

http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/rd...841959597.html

http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/pm...841678305.html

http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/va...849803247.html

http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/rd...848660345.html

http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/bn...848362902.html

http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/rc...848317342.html

http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/bn...847530023.html


Obviously the ones without speaker I would need to pick some up but I will cross that bridge when I get there.


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The only reason I am replying is because I did this in college myself and having a sound system impresses. (Not sure if you are in college or not).

To be fair, I would either go with the 3rd to last or the last (leaning more towards last though). For the 3rd to last, work him down to 50 though, so then you could find cheap bookshelf speakers on CL. For the last, you could probably get him down to 75, so you're still coming in good. I have the last one in school and it was decent. You wont get earth shattering bass, but its enough and comes with an optical audio so you get digital sound which makes a WORLD of difference if you play PS3 or anything like that.

Those are my suggestions, Good Luck.

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Thanks alot. I appreciate first hand advice such as yours.
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For your budget, some of the sound bars could be worth investigating. Convenient, reasonably priced, and might suit your needs. You could get a new one for your budget. Just a thought if you wanted something new versus craiglist. There will of course be sound and quality differences.
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Hmm. I tried a quick google and couldn't find any sound bars for under $200. Am I doing it wrong?
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I'd seen some on slickdeals before for around your price point

http://slickdeals.net/sdsearch.php?forumchoice[]=9&search=%22sound+bar%22&mode=forum&showposts=0&sdsearch_archive=0&firstpost=1
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All though college I had a $100 2.1 PC speaker set and thing was perfect for music and movies in my room during parties. I then bought a late 90's Sony 2.0 reciever and some speakers from the 1970's at a garage sale for my fraternity house bar room.
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I assume your TV has RCA audio out but this is a cheap option that will work
http://www.amazon.com/Pyle-2x75W-Ste...9651592&sr=8-1
http://www.amazon.com/Pyle-PTA2-2x40...9651757&sr=8-4

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http://www.amazon.com/Jamo-cherry-Co...651875&sr=1-14
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-SS-B1000-...9651913&sr=1-1

If you go the 2.1 PC speaker route you could use this http://www.amazon.com/Male-3-5mm-Ste.../dp/B000I23TTE
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Let me elaborate. I also am trying to find something to plug an opical audio into from my network media tank. This isn't a must, but I am a little eager to put some 5.1 movies through.

I am not expecting jaw-dropping bass, but a little boom for the explosions and car chases never hurt...

Anyways, thanks for all the help guys.
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Let me elaborate. I also am trying to find something to plug an opical audio into from my network media tank. This isn't a must, but I am a little eager to put some 5.1 movies through.

I am not expecting jaw-dropping bass, but a little boom for the explosions and car chases never hurt...

Anyways, thanks for all the help guys.

Alright well save your money then until you have triple that, $300. What you are seeking is not feasible for $100

Try this and let us know how it goes
http://www.amazon.com/Coby-DVD765-5-...655140&sr=8-17

I had one of the earlier versions of something like this Coby years a go and the thing wasa complete waste of my money and really didn't make my sound any better or make it seem like I was in a theater. There was no bass and in fact the TV speakers sounded better than the cheao 5.1

Do yourself a favor and save your money, thats what I did and I am happy i did. I spent $450 for 7.1 reciever and 5.1 speaker kit and I am extremely happy with my purchase. Speakers and recievers are things you throw out in a couple years so its worth saving the money to get a good one

For $300 I would get the Sony STR-DH510 reciever and Yamaha NS-SP1800BL 5.1-Channel Home Theater Speaker Package
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So all of the links i posted would be equivalent to the coby? I will take a few test drives on some of them and if they are no good I will try to save (tough to save 300 bux on a student loan though)

thanks for the help.
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The only reason I am replying is because I did this in college myself and having a sound system impresses. (Not sure if you are in college or not).

To be fair, I would either go with the 3rd to last or the last (leaning more towards last though). For the 3rd to last, work him down to 50 though, so then you could find cheap bookshelf speakers on CL. For the last, you could probably get him down to 75, so you're still coming in good. I have the last one in school and it was decent. You wont get earth shattering bass, but its enough and comes with an optical audio so you get digital sound which makes a WORLD of difference if you play PS3 or anything like that.

Those are my suggestions, Good Luck.

I thought those looked the best too....though I looked up the last one and it doesn't seem to have digital inputs? http://www.docs.sony.com/release/HTC800DP.PDF
..not sure.

That Sony receiver doesn't look bad but it's going to be tough finding speakers for $50CAD. I googled a few places in Vancouver that might take pity on a poor student
http://www.iavscanada.com/sale_speaker.htm
http://vancouveraudiospeakerclinic.com/vasc4.html
...and maybe canuckaudiomart.com
...and possibly something might turn up here -> http://freegeekvancouver.org/

Parts Express and MCM Electronics in the US have decent budget stuff and ship to CA but fees and shipping might kill it. Good luck!
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I emailed the last one and got him down to 75 bux. I will email back about the optical input.

I am kind of surprised no-one liked the first one so-far, is RCA that bad? It has no DVD player which is a non-issue for me seeing as I will mostly be playing networked rips.
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So all of the links i posted would be equivalent to the coby? I will take a few test drives on some of them and if they are no good I will try to save (tough to save 300 bux on a student loan though)

thanks for the help.

Honestly reciever and speaker technology doesn't advance as fast as computers do so you spend some money now you will have this system for a long time.
My fraternity used a reciever from 1995 and the thing has had a hard life and still working, Parents are using the same reciever since 1990 etc.
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I thought those looked the best too....though I looked up the last one and it doesn't seem to have digital inputs? http://www.docs.sony.com/release/HTC800DP.PDF
..not sure.

Pg 14 has a diagram of the back with no digital inputs just RCA inputs
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I emailed the last one and got him down to 75 bux. I will email back about the optical input.

I am kind of surprised no-one liked the first one so-far, is RCA that bad? It has no DVD player which is a non-issue for me seeing as I will mostly be playing networked rips.

Network rips of movies aren't in true 5.1 audio just 2.0. So digital, optical hook up won't matter. What I do is I have hook my computer output audio up by a simple 3.5mm jack and then I let the reciever simulate 5.1.

I really suggest you get the $50 reciever as it does have digital optical inputs
http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/bn...848362902.html and then buy a pair of bookshelves to start out with and slowly as onto your system.

This is a decent pair of speakers to start with and they will have decent bass
http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/bn...852513606.html
http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/bn...841173834.html
http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/bn...807875794.html
http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/bn...807687312.html
http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/bn...792543267.html
http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/bn...809892131.html

I good 2.0 will sound better than crappy 5.1
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Djexacto,

I would like to donate $50 towards your system. If you will send me your PayPal address I will send the cash. It's not much, but maybe it will help a little. If nothing else, it can cover a few late night trips to Burger King and Taco Bell while you are studying for school.

So many people have helped me here at Avs, I just consider this a way of passing on the good karma. And I know how tough it is being a student. Plus I've had $52.74 sitting in my PayPal account for over a year now because I haven't used it in so long. This seems like a good time to use it.

One day at a time...
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Djexacto,

I would like to donate $50 towards your system. If you will send me your PayPal address I will send the cash. It's not much, but maybe it will help a little. If nothing else, it can cover a few late night trips to Burger King and Taco Bell while you are studying for school.

So many people have helped me here at Avs, I just consider this a way of passing on the good karma. And I know how tough it is being a student. Plus I've had $52.74 sitting in my PayPal account for over a year now because I haven't used it in so long. This seems like a good time to use it.

That is some nice guy. I am looking to get something like this think you could help me out too? http://izismile.com/2010/06/08/the_m...d_22_pics.html

As for our young starving student, now that you have a budget of 150, I would get the sony receiver with the HDMI input and then buy either a 5.1 setup or piece out the system. Since you still dont have much money when it comes to buying audio equipment, I would then just go on CL and post up what you find when it comes to speakers.

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Network rips of movies aren't in true 5.1 audio just 2.0. So digital, optical hook up won't matter. What I do is I have hook my computer output audio up by a simple 3.5mm jack and then I let the reciever simulate 5.1.

My network rips are fairly high quality mp4s and mkvs, some of which have 2ch and 5.1 channel audio tracks, some just 5.1 channel (the player downmixes) and some just 2ch.

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I good 2.0 will sound better than crappy 5.1

That's kind of what I wanted to hear.
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Djexacto,

I would like to donate $50 towards your system. If you will send me your PayPal address I will send the cash. It's not much, but maybe it will help a little. If nothing else, it can cover a few late night trips to Burger King and Taco Bell while you are studying for school.

So many people have helped me here at Avs, I just consider this a way of passing on the good karma. And I know how tough it is being a student. Plus I've had $52.74 sitting in my PayPal account for over a year now because I haven't used it in so long. This seems like a good time to use it.

That is very generous, I can hardly believe it.

This is probably the only forum that I have been on with such helpful members. You guys have put up with my lack of a budget and dumb questions, and even offer to help me out financially, that is pretty sweet.

PM sent, I will try to pick up the receiver today and I will post some speaker sets later to see what you guys think.


Thanks again!
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Try to haggle with the Sony Reciever and get this 5.1 speaker set
http://www.bing.com/shopping/search?...5d&wf=Commerce

Signing up for Bing will get you cash back
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Try to haggle with the Sony Reciever and get this 5.1 speaker set
http://www.bing.com/shopping/search?...5d&wf=Commerce

Signing up for Bing will get you cash back

Agree with Rob...thats a good multi-channel speaker system for the money. Shame I threw away my told Sony HTiB before I upgraded, I would have gave it to you for free.

Anyone have any old speakers to donate to our poor student neighbor from the north?

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Ah man is that Bing deal only in the US? It won't let me change my location away from United States, it's not even a drop down menu.

Oh well I will continue the hunt and I will keep my eye out for these speakers


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Ah man is that Bing deal only in the US? It won't let me change my location away from United States, it's not even a drop down menu.

Oh well I will continue the hunt and I will keep my eye out for these speakers


Thanks again

Damn i guess US only.

Honestly thats the cheapest new 5.1 speaker set a person could buy available there is nothing cheaper.

Continue on CL looking try ebay.

Personally I would just buy a pair of bookshelf speakers and add to your setup from there. You will be better off in the long run. Also those CL speakers i recommended above are good too to start with some will put out so much bass you will not need a woofer
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Was hunting for speakers on CL and came across this, is this any good?


http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/rd...852990729.html


Looks like a good deal, and they have cheap 5.1 and some decent looking bookshelf speakers.

Also found these so far:

http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/rd...854505058.html
http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/va...853934243.html
http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/pm...853480306.html
http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/va...853019497.html


Thanks guys. I'll be sure to post pics of whatever i get!


edit:I think it might be a 2.0 amp
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http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/rd...852990729.html
Its a start but you'll need a subwoofer with the pioneer 5 speaker set personally I would just buy the JVC floorstanders haggle them down though
http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/rd...854505058.html
I like kenwood they make decent cheap speakers
http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/va...853934243.html
Kinda small with limited frequency range
http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/pm...853480306.html
Had sansui's in highschool for free and they were great
http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/va...853019497.html
Will not hook up to the Sony reciever this is an all in one set ment to hook up to computer and thats it

Thanks guys. I'll be sure to post pics of whatever i get!


edit:I think it might be a 2.0 amp

Opinion In bold I would go with the Kenwoods as they look the best to me
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Well thanks to Happy Nightmares, I now officially have a budget of $150!! What a great guy. I promise I will put the money to good use.

I will try the Kenwoods, and keep hunting for a middle and rear speakers!

This forum is great!



Edit: This looks promising...

http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/bn...834452219.html
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Very cool of happy nightmares...nice!

How about these -> http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/va...846300120.html
You might be able to get just the speakers.
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I bet you thought we would just laugh at you

Basically, yeah.

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Very cool of happy nightmares...nice!

How about these -> http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/va...846300120.html
You might be able to get just the speakers.

Email sent about just the speakers.


what about these for a center:

http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/va...822956590.html
http://cgi.ebay.ca/Philips-CSW-5000-...item48388232e4

http://cgi.ebay.ca/Philips-CS3450E-C...item48393f7d9d
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Be careful not to get speakers from an all-in-one HTiB...you know, the ones with a slim amp and proprietary connections. They usually come with 3 ohm speakers that won't work as well with a proper receiver. The Philips speakers look to be just that.
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So better just to use like a 3rd bookshelf as a center? What about rear/satellites?

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