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Hey everyone, I was planning on buying a HTIB soon, I was looking for one around $300. I have a crap RCA system right now that I got off craigslist. Every channel has died on my except sub and front left. I know the speakers still work because I've tried them in the left channel. On top of that, the cable company is making us use these new mini boxes, and it puts out half the channels in mono, and the sound is in the right speaker. So for those channels, I don't get any audio at all... Anyway, I was originally wanting to just get a new receiver and use these speakers, but I read that these are 4 ohm speakers, and that would hurt most receivers since standard receivers work on 8 ohms. First question: Is this true? If I do need to start over, should I get a HTIB or buy speakers and receiver separate. I really liked the Onkyo HT-S3300, but I'd kind of like the option of 7.1 speakers if I get the receiver separately. Any suggestions on the best $300 HTIB if that is the best route?
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Hey everyone, I was planning on buying a HTIB soon, I was looking for one around $300. I have a crap RCA system right now that I got off craigslist. Every channel has died on my except sub and front left. I know the speakers still work because I've tried them in the left channel. On top of that, the cable company is making us use these new mini boxes, and it puts out half the channels in mono, and the sound is in the right speaker. So for those channels, I don't get any audio at all... Anyway, I was originally wanting to just get a new receiver and use these speakers, but I read that these are 4 ohm speakers, and that would hurt most receivers since standard receivers work on 8 ohms. First question: Is this true? If I do need to start over, should I get a HTIB or buy speakers and receiver separate. I really liked the Onkyo HT-S3300, but I'd kind of like the option of 7.1 speakers if I get the receiver separately. Any suggestions on the best $300 HTIB if that is the best route?

For $300 you will not be able to get a 7.1system.... Maybe for 400 with the onkyo ht-5300
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Old 01-01-2011, 04:48 PM - Thread Starter
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Yeah I know, I'm planning on getting a 5.1, something like the Onkyo HT-S3300 that I mentioned in my first post. I was just saying that if it is better to buy the parts separately, I was thinking of possibly putting in more money for a 7.1 receiver but still just buying 5.1 speakers. That way I could upgrade later if needed. I'm a college student, and I don't have a ton of money to be spending on home audio, but I do want something semi-decent that I could still use when I have my own place. All of the really cheap HTIBs have those proprietary jacks which really annoy me, I was also looking for a receiver that has two optical audio inputs. So those are my main constraints. I was looking at that Onkyo system, some Yamaha systems, and an Insignia system on Best Buy's website, which supposedly features a re-branded Onkyo receiver also. I just wanted to see if anyone had opinions of the best systems in this range, and all the HTIBs I'm looking at are 5.1
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JMO but I'd go for the Insignia system. The price fits your budget and it comes with a receiver that will allow you to upgrade your speakers as $$ becomes available. FWIW, I have the previous model of that system's receiver as a stand-alone component in a secondary 5.1 HT set-up. It's got a nice set of features and has performed flawlessly.
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I'm in a similar situation as you. Here's my thread comparing Sony and Insignia:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...php?p=19751910
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Thanks for the tips guys! samsurd2, Are the Insignia speakers any good compared to Onkyo or Yamaha speakers in this price range? I was thinking of possibly going up to $400 if I need to, and seeing that the Insignia system is no longer on sale, I guess I will need to. So I was checking out Onkyo's S5300, which is 7.1 and Yamaha's 393 and 493. The only difference I saw between the Yamahas were the speakers, I think it might even be the same receiver. The only problem is that I don't know how the speakers would rank between the Onkyo, the Insignia, and Yamaha systems. Anyone have any idea? I'll read your thread later tonight, dmk1974. It looks like it has some good info!
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samsurd2, Are the Insignia speakers any good compared to Onkyo or Yamaha speakers in this price range?
As I noted, "I have the previous model of that system's receiver as a stand-alone component in a secondary 5.1 HT set-up." I only have the receiver, the NS-R5101HD, which is connected to some old Sony speakers, so I can't give a speaker comparison.
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Oh I see that now Well I guess I'll just have to get some more research in on the speakers then. From what I read, The Yamaha systems are rated at 8 Ohms, while the speakers are 6. I have read elsewhere that having speakers with lower ohms than the receiver is rated for is a bad thing. So why would Yamaha include 6 ohm speakers in their systems? Or do different ohms not really hurt the receiver? I have crap RCA speakers right now from my failing system that are rated at 4 ohms, so if these won't hurt a 8 ohm receiver I may just use these speakers for now and put all of my money towards just a receiver. IS anyone knowledgeable about this ohm issue?
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I bought Denon DHT-391XP. I'm very happy with it. The speakers are way better than any other comparable HTIB. You can get it now for low $300s so it should fit your budget.

You can read a more thorough review on another thread where I contemplated between Onkyo 3300, Yamaha 393 and Denon.
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Old 01-08-2011, 03:09 PM - Thread Starter
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I read your thread, dmk1974, and that does help me out. And I did look a little at Denon, bonbon23, and I have heard really good things about them. A Denon system just went on sale on Amazon, 5.1 system at $350. So that one's definitely in my range, but I took a look at the back of the system and it was pretty lacking :-/ I was hoping for two optical audio ports, 1 from my TV and 1 from my component switch. But if the Denons really do sound much better than comparable HTiBs, then I'll definitely have to keep that system in consideration.
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For your price range, just get an Onkyo AVX-280 from Walmart for $250. Definitely not the best system in the world but you can's beat it for $250 bucks shipped. It has all the features you need.

And the Insignia system isn't that great. If you were spending the $400, you may as well get the HT-S5300 which has a much more powerful sub and 7.1 channels.
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Old 01-08-2011, 05:22 PM - Thread Starter
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thanks for the tips, jsncrso. I actually noticed that Onkyo HTIB at Walmart just the other day, but I noticed it was lacking a few things, like Audyssey. I was looking around to see if it was worth the $50 bucks off for those things, and I read either on these forums or in the reviews on walmart.com that Audyssey is definitely worth spending another 50 and getthing the HT-S3300. Of course that was only one opinion. I'm not even really sure what all Audyssey does, so I can't really judge it. I heard it had volume and sound controlling features that would level things out, like loud commercials. Anyone have any opinions as to whether Audyssey is worth the extra 50?
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IMO, paying extra for Audessy on a lower end system such at the 3300 just doesn't seem worth it especially if you are pinching pennies. (the 3300 is usually around $75 more than the AVX-280). If you dishing out $325 for the 3300, I'd spend ~$100 more and get the 5300 which has better speakers (includes tweeters and slightly bigger drivers), 7.1 audio, and a much more powerful passive sub.
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Ok, thanks for the tip. Do you happen to know what the big differences are between the 5300 and 6300, just out of curiosity? I saw about a $100 difference between the two and the only differences in the systems that I noticed were size changes in the speakers and a setup mic. Maybe the speakers are also higher quality or something?
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the 6300 upscales everything to HDMI and does have slightly better speakers. It also includes the Audessy microphone for calibration.
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ok cool. So the upscaling will output everything through HDMI out then, correct? Do new models come out from each brand once a year or so?
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Ok so I have decided to go with Onkyo, at least for the receiver. My next situation is if I should buy a HTiB from Onkyo or just buy a receiver and get a set of Polk speakers to go with it. I found the Polk rm705 set for $250, which is a 5.1 speaker set. If I get these with an Onkyo receiver, would it sound noticeably better than an Onkyo HTiB? I decided I can go up to $500 if I really need to, and I found I could get the Onkyo TX-SR508 with the Polk rm705 speakers for a little less than the Onkyo ht-s6300 would cost me. I could then buy two more speakers down the road for the 7.1. Would it be worth it to get the Polks? Also I found a better Polk set, the rm95, for $300 but it is without a sub. Would it be worth it to upgrade to those and wait on a sub? Are the side drivers on the RM8 satellites worth it?
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Be careful on the onkyo recievers some have HDMI flicker problems. 508 and S5300. I wasted about 1 month dealing with that in the end they went back to newegg. The S3300 does not have it though so I would actually drop down in price.
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Ok, thanks for the tips. I did see some complaints about that in the reviews on Newegg. It sounded to me like it happens when the system gets too hot. Were your receivers running hot? I figured I could get a computer fan to sit on it if needed. Maybe I should reconsider receiver though, ha ha. I liked the extra features that Onkyo provided over Yamaha in this price range, but I also want a receiver that will last me.
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Old 02-03-2011, 10:36 PM - Thread Starter
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I noticed that on the Onkyo HT-S6300 product feature page, it looks like it doesn't upconvert component. Is this really the case? The only way I'd put out the extra money for the upconversion and mic is if it actually upconverted everything so that I only have one out cable. I thought that was one of the big points of the upconversion. I guess I may just be going with the 3300 after all
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I just got my S5300 From accessories4less and do not have any flicker issues.

You could grab a Onkyo 508 for like $200 shipped and then the Dayton home theater speaker set for $200 shipped +/- depending on the size sub you want. I got my Ht-S5300 for $340 shipped about 1 week ago from them. Only issue is the wife thinks that the front L/R speakers are too large.
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Yeah, one of the concerns I had about the 5300 was the big front speakers lol
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