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Any good system that puts out decent 5.1 with good "boom" while having clear vocals? Mainly will be used for movies by Roku, and Dish receiver, will also have a Xbox 360, and/or PS3 hooked to it...

My old system I dug out recently after a move to find it not working...

I am trying to find 5.1 with either Coaxial Digital Audio input, or HDMI, for under 200. I don't have a whole lot of money to spend I am on a limited income. Please advise, thanks!
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I guess it depends on what you consider "decent". But for you want, under $200 is going to be really tough, if not impossible frown.gif
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Walmart has one: SONY DAV-DZ170(theirs is actually SONY DAV-DZ175) looks to be what I would need, 1000W, Coaxial for 150(inc tax) Anyone know anything about this one?
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What about a soundbar namely a Phillips HSB2313A? Walmart has those for 105(tax incl)? Says 300W with 3 HDMI inputs, with a sub. Sounds good, but unsure.
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Again, it depends on how much quality you want to lose on a sub-$200 system. It will probably sound better than the tv speakers but that's your decision. Is the sub-woofer on the Philips active or passive. Probably passive which means you probably won't get the "boom" that you want. I'd pick a system that has a good return policy and just try it.
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Again, it depends on how much quality you want to lose on a sub-$200 system. It will probably sound better than the tv speakers but that's your decision. Is the sub-woofer on the Philips active or passive. Probably passive which means you probably won't get the "boom" that you want. I'd pick a system that has a good return policy and just try it.

The Phillips on their website says "Subwoofer type: Active"
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Ok Active means it has a separate power amplifier and doesn't derive it's power from the main unit. A lot of HTiBs that have a built-in DVD player are passive. IOW, the sub-woofer derives it's power from the BD/DVD player which just doesn't give you the sound you want. If the Philips looks like it will meet your needs then check out the return policy so you know what you can do just in case and then buy it and try it out.
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Found another one for 158, 1000W RCA RT2911(RCA RT2910), anyone know anything of this one? Seeing mixed reviews but I think most are due to user error, please advise!
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So I settled, got some good deals I think...

TV: RCA L32HD31R (bought 2 years ago)
Receiver: YAMAHA HTR-3064BL (Refurbished, EXACTLY the same as a YAMAHA RX-V371, this was a HTIB version is why the different model) - $139.98
Subwoofer: Polk PSWi-8M(70W Wireless) - $99.97
Speakers: Kenwood KS-207(100W, 8 OHM each) x 5(had these from a former setup where the receiver somehow corroded out and refuses to power)

TOTAL: $239.96

While a bit over budget I think this will be the best setup, I was going to reuse my old Kenwood subwoofer but it is a passive one that the newer receivers won't power.

Any thoughts or ideas how or if this needs improved further? I will be using new copper 16, or 18 gauge wire, not sure what would be best.

Thanks for the help guys!
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Looks like you did your homework. Good for you. The HTR-3064 is the same as the RX-V371. The HTR "model" number is just the receiver designation for the YHT-395 system. I don't have any experience with wireless speakers so I can't comment on your choice. Maybe someone else who has wireless experience can comment. The Kenwoods will probably get you by. The receiver can power 8 ohm or 6 ohm speakers so you're ok there. I run mine at 6 ohms. As far as speaker wire goes, I used 16AWG 2-wire ribbed. It's basically heater cord wire that I only paid about $0.23 per foot and works great. My run is under 40' so 16AWG is fine. I'd just put your system together and see how it sounds.
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Thanks for the advice, I seen that lower wire gauge has better signal and can go further without quality reduction. The Kenwood speakers served me well a few years ago(last time I had these set up) and I figure Kenwood is a good brand and the wattage and such are not bad even by today's standards, along with the fact the receiver uses 100W/8OHM as one of its standard.

The Wireless sub I read in at least one place has a crossover frequency of 80Hz, and the receiver has several to choose from, and 80Hz is usually the standard. The sub also uses 2.4GHz wireless(and from reading around can also wire like normal and NOT use the wireless function if I choose...), it is a down firing sub(heard these are good), and has a frequency response of 36Hz-250Hz.

I am somewhat almost second guessing the sub, but will test it to ensure it sounds as I would like, as there are other options in the price range. I know Wattage is not the most important factor, and I have seen it can only do 30W continuous and peak to 70W, so I don't know if it will be enough bass, but may be plenty for the room I am putting it in and to be honest, my fiancee is not a big(hates it really) fan of thumping bass, so may just be perfect. The sub will be here Friday, but not sure if the receiver will be(bought from two different places).

One thing is for sure, I am not the patient type of person, and the anticipation is killing me lol...
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My receiver did not ship until yesterday, so it won't be here til Monday >.<<br />
My sub will be here today though, I will begin wiring my room in prep for the receiver, should make installing it easier when it gets here. smile.gif

Somehow my receiver(19.70LBS) weighs less than my sub(21.90LBS) O.o

Just thought that was weird :P
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2 lbs is not much but the sub-woofer is probably made with denser material for acoustical reasons. I forgot to mention this but if your sub-woofer comes with a cable it may be cheap one (mine was). I'd suggest getting a better sub-woofer cable (better insulation etc). I bought one from MediaBridge that was not expensive at all but made considerably better than the one that came with my sub. You can always add the cable later. I think my sub has better response with the MediaBridge cable but that's really subjective. It may "sound" better because I wanted it too wink.gif , but it certainly can't hurt to have a better cable.
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Another thought before this comes tomorrow, I found the minimum power for the speakers is 30W, Max is 60W and Peak is 100W, so I am hoping that they don't blow because the receiver is going to push between 80-100W I think. O.o
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They'll be fine. Watts listed on most lower end receivers tend to be inflated anyway. As long as you're not maxing the volume for hours on end they won't blow.

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Alrighty thanks for the reassurence I am currently running wire across the room, good times.
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My receiver did not ship until yesterday, so it won't be here til Monday >.<<br /> My sub will be here today though, I will begin wiring my room in prep for the receiver, should make installing it easier when it gets here. smile.gif
Somehow my receiver(19.70LBS) weighs less than my sub(21.90LBS) O.o
Just thought that was weird :P

Component weight can be indicative of quality: heavy-duty electrical transformers, non-resonant speaker cabinets, etc.
Most current AVR's are 18lbs - 25lbs, although some people consider them lightweight compared to the 40lb receivers of not too long ago.
If you look at some of the Internet Direct subwoofers such as HSU, Epik, Outlaw, Rythmik, and SVS, you'll find subwoofers from 40lbs to 120lbs.

You bought a very serviceable setup for a great price - enjoy!
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Got it all hooked up, sounds great, positional audio is good, bass my fiancee says is too much when its not even at half, but yeah for the money I think it was a good purchase, I will watch Avatar Blu-Ray 5.1 tonight for the first time, hope its a good movie smile.gif
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Congratulations - that setup should give you years of A/V enjoyment.
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