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Which one is better? I was going to get denon refurb but it sold out...so thinking of getting yamaha as a good alternative?

what you think?


here are differences..

yamaha new: $399 w/ 2 year warranty
600 watt system
ypao
yamaha speakers (82-85dB sensivity)
higher Frequency Range/Response



denon refurb: $367 w/ 1 year warranty
475 system
audyseeys
BA speakers (88dB sensivity)
lower Frequency Range/Response


anything else i'm missing?

EDIT: The Bold parts are what I updated

My 5.1 audio system bedroom setup:
10'1" L x 9'11" D x 8' H. One corner opens up to a space (for the door to open/close) that measures 2'4" L x 2'11" D x 8' H.
AVR: Denon 1712
Fronts: Pioneer SP-BS41-LR
Center: Pioneer SP-C21
Rear: Pioneer SP-BS21-LR
Subwoofer: SVS PC12-NSD
TV: Samsung UN46EH6070...
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I have the Yamaha 395 and have been quite happy with it. The speakers are ok for our size room but definitely an upgrade should be considered down the road. We've had it for over a year now and it has played extremely well with the other components. YPAO calibration is a bit more cumbersome but you can achieve very good results with it. Audyssey is more automated and is supposed to give you better results but personally I'm not all that convinced. If you are a real audiophile it might be the way to go but it all depends on room furnishings, if you always sit dead center, etc. Denon makes good system and BA speakers are fine as well. You might want to look at the sensitivity of the speakers for comparison. My Yamaha's aren't as sensitive as I'd like (Yamaha isn't known for their speakers) so that's why I'm looking around, but blu-rays with lossless audio sound really good with what I have now.
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I have the Yamaha 395 and have been quite happy with it. The speakers are ok for our size room but definitely an upgrade should be considered down the road. We've had it for over a year now and it has played extremely well with the other components. YPAO calibration is a bit more cumbersome but you can achieve very good results with it. Audyssey is more automated and is supposed to give you better results but personally I'm not all that convinced. If you are a real audiophile it might be the way to go but it all depends on room furnishings, if you always sit dead center, etc. Denon makes good system and BA speakers are fine as well. You might want to look at the sensitivity of the speakers for comparison. My Yamaha's aren't as sensitive as I'd like (Yamaha isn't known for their speakers) so that's why I'm looking around, but blu-rays with lossless audio sound really good with what I have now.
what's your size room? mine is 10x10 and i sit nearer to the rear center of the room.

as for speaker comparisons i went ahead and updated YHT-397 and DHT-591BA on the original post....seems Denon is better



i took the liberty to further compared 397 vs 395 speakers/subwoofers and they are identical, except 397's SW model is YST-SW012BL2 instead of YST-SW012BL. Not sure what the differences are but the Yahamh websites seems to show identital specs.

As for the receiver features they are different.

$329.99 - YHT-395:
1 Dock port (for optional YDS-12 or YBA-10)
Front Analog Audio Input

$399.99 - YHT-397:
USB Input for iPod/iPhone, USB Memory, Portable Audio Player
Front USB Input
YPAO
4K Pass-through
Color OSD
ECO Mode

Two main concerns I have if I decide between 395 and 397:

1. Does 395 have a speaker configuration thingy like YPAO / Audyssey EQ2 or something of that effect?

2. What's the main benefit of 4K pass-through and what does it mean for the consumer?

My 5.1 audio system bedroom setup:
10'1" L x 9'11" D x 8' H. One corner opens up to a space (for the door to open/close) that measures 2'4" L x 2'11" D x 8' H.
AVR: Denon 1712
Fronts: Pioneer SP-BS41-LR
Center: Pioneer SP-C21
Rear: Pioneer SP-BS21-LR
Subwoofer: SVS PC12-NSD
TV: Samsung UN46EH6070...
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My room is about 17x20, with an 8' cathedral ceiling. Big sliding glass door on the left side of the HTS (curtain covering), carpeted floor, and leather furniture. Fronts are at least 6' apart and the sides are even with the back of the couch (which is against the wall). Speakers are set to small and the crossover is set at 80Hz. Subwoofer volume is set at about mid-point. YPAO calibrated. We don't listen to window-shattering volumes so that may be a consideration if you do. Seating is whatever is comfortable for whoever is there ( I usually sit dead center when watching tv/movies but not always). I'm not sure about 4k passthru but it sounds like a spec that is available once 4k is offered (if ever). It seem that a lot of mfrs will claim specs that aren't yet consumer-ready, at least that's my read. I don't worry about those specs. The Yamaha matches well with my LG LD520, Panasonic BDT-210 BD player, and the AppleTV2. TV is calibrated so I don't use any of the artificial video processing available on the Yamaha and the Panasonic. I also don't use any of the artificial audio processing that is available on the Yamaha (which is actually the RX-V371 receiver) AVR. I play the audio as recorded, whether it be BD, DVD, or OTA tv.
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