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Just purchased Panasonic 65ST60 that has 3D. I was wondering if I should replace my current old Onkyo HT-R510 box setup? I guess the new TV brings new technology that my received does not have.
Looking to spend around $500 (Or less if possible) for complete setup

Where do I look for theater in box online, best stores ?
What specs do I use to compare on set from another ?

Here is my current speakers and setup its 6.1
Onkyo Receiver HT-R510
Front speakers: SKF-200F
Subwoofer SKW-200
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I would look around for the Onkyo HT-S9400THX on sale. It can be had for as low as $599. It is a 7.1 THX certified system with networking and 3D capabilities. IMO it is the best HTIB on the market with all components from the same company. I know 2 ppl that have the older versions of this system only difference in this one is newer reciever. I'll tell you it sounds really good considering its an HTIB and the price.

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I would look around for the Onkyo HT-S9400THX on sale. It can be had for as low as $599. It is a 7.1 THX certified system with networking and 3D capabilities. IMO it is the best HTIB on the market with all components from the same company. I know 2 ppl that have the older versions of this system only difference in this one is newer reciever. I'll tell you it sounds really good considering its an HTIB and the price.

Wow you read my mind I was browsing amazon today and stumbled up on Onkyo HT-S9400THX. What are some equivalent HTiB from maybet Harmon kardon or Bose ? Which Onkyo Model is step down the S5600?

Where have we seen it for $599 ?
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Last week it was $599 on newegg.com, but now its price is way back up.

The 7500 or the 5600 would be a step down from the 9400THX, but trust me the 9400 is worth the extra money.

Don't know much about Harmon Kardon but seems like basically all their packages are only 5.1 and most DON'T include a receiver.

Stay away from bose unless you want to spend a lot of money and get poor performance.

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Last week it was $599 on newegg.com, but now its price is way back up.

The 7500 or the 5600 would be a step down from the 9400THX, but trust me the 9400 is worth the extra money.

Don't know much about Harmon Kardon but seems like basically all their packages are only 5.1 and most DON'T include a receiver.

Stay away from bose unless you want to spend a lot of money and get poor performance.

I am pretty happy with my Onkyo and especially that it lasted 8 + years not a single issue, Is there another brand Theater in box you recommend I research that is on par with Onkyo or better?
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None of the normal HTIB brands compete with the 9400THX.

I still say at that price point you can't beat that system.

You may want to check out Denon, or Energy, maybe a few others but some of them are just speaker sets and then you still have to buy a receiver.

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None of the normal HTIB brands compete with the 9400THX.

I still say at that price point you can't beat that system.

You may want to check out Denon, or Energy, maybe a few others but some of them are just speaker sets and then you still have to buy a receiver.

I noticed the DHT-1513BA at $499 how would this compare the the 9400. Why are the speakers for the 9400 so big I assumed in the 9 years that I got my large onkyo speakers that technology would have improved and designed smaller speakers?
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Some ppl may disagree with me but I would take the Onkyo over that Denon. The Denon is only 5.1 and the speakers only have 3.5" woofers and 1/2" tweeters and the sub is only a 100 watt 8". The Onkyo is 7.1 and the front speakers have dual 5" woofers and a 1" tweeter and the sub is a 125 watt 12".

Well some companies make smaller speakers but sound is about physics and a small speaker can only move so much air and play so loud and play very little bass. IMO as long as you have room for it the bigger the speaker the better unless its a crappy speaker. The towers and center I have have 2 - 8" woofers and a 1" dome tweeter in a 6.5" horn. They are quite large speakers.

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Noticed they released the new HT-S5600, how does this compare with the recommended HT-S9400THX ? Its around $500 as opposed to 9400 which is around $799
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I would say it doesn't compare very well... If you look at the specs, Onkyo like every other HTIB company who is really an electronics company not a speaker company really distorts the specs to make it sound more appealing.... The thing with the THX system is that for a speaker to be able to be THX certified it must reach at least 20khz @ -6db and the sub must reach down to at least 20hz @ -6db so for a $700 all in one 7.1 system to be able to do that its pretty amazing.

Another way to look at this is you have a very nice TV; how much did you spend on it? Most ppl say spend at least as much on sound as you did for video. And basically how my system turned out is, the TV, TV stand, Blu-Ray Player, and A/V Receiver equals the price of my 7 speakers and 2 subs. And FYI I have a 2011 LG 60" PZ750 THX 3D Plasma TV.

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I would say it doesn't compare very well... If you look at the specs, Onkyo like every other HTIB company who is really an electronics company not a speaker company really distorts the specs to make it sound more appealing.... The thing with the THX system is that for a speaker to be able to be THX certified it must reach at least 20khz @ -6db and the sub must reach down to at least 20hz @ -6db so for a $700 all in one 7.1 system to be able to do that its pretty amazing.

Another way to look at this is you have a very nice TV; how much did you spend on it? Most ppl say spend at least as much on sound as you did for video. And basically how my system turned out is, the TV, TV stand, Blu-Ray Player, and A/V Receiver equals the price of my 7 speakers and 2 subs. And FYI I have a 2011 LG 60" PZ750 THX 3D Plasma TV.

I saw this today at Sams club. Listened to demo and sounded pretty good. THe smaller speakers are more attractive, wonder how it compares to the 9400
http://www.samsclub.com/sams/home-theater-system-network-ready-5-1-ch/prod7000132.ip?navAction=

What are the chances we will see the 9400 around $500-599 anytime soon?
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If you like the sound of Bose then not sure I can help you. As like 90% of ppl on this forum will tell you to steer clear of Bose. IMO those bose speakers can't even compete with most HTIB speakers.

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Thanks for all the info I will continue to keep my options open. Leaning heavily toward HT-9400THX, hopefully prices come down again so I can snag one.
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Here are 2 other places you can get the 9400THX, BH Photo Video has them new with standard manufacture's warranty, Accessories 4 Less has refurbished units with a 1 year warranty.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/755739-REG/Onkyo_HT_S9400THX_HT_S9400THX_Home_Theater_Package.html

http://www.accessories4less.com/make-a-store/item/ONKHTS9400/Onkyo-HT-S9400-THX-7.1-Ch-Network-Home-Theater-Receiver/Speaker/1.html

FWIW I have an Onkyo 808 receiver that I got refurbished paid just over half price for it, had it since winter of 2011 and no issues.

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I noticed accessories4less. Now do their refurbished have dents or marks on the speakers or receiver ? Just worried about quality vs new. Hoping newegg or amazon runs another sale on these gets them down near $500 and I'll bite.
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You might want to take a look at the Pioneer HTP-071 Home Theater System. Got mine the other day and I and I love it and its great for 3D.

Sony Bravia KDL-55W900A LED/3D TV.
Sony BDP S6200 3D Blu ray Player.
Sony 5.2-Channel 4K A/V HD Receiver - STRDH540.
Center Channel Speaker: Tivoli Signature Series.
Tower Speakers: Sony SS-MF315's.
Surrounds: Pioneer Satellite Speakers.
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