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Introduction:
There are numerous threads regarding Onkyo's excellent HT-S790 Home Theater in a Box system. Here is an attempt to consolidate any questions and answers into one thread.



General Information:
The Onkyo HT-S790 is a 7.1 channel Home Theater in a Box (HTIB) system, available in either black or silver (labeled as HT-S790S). Unlike most HTIB's, it does not include a DVD player - just the receiver, 2 front speakers, 1 center speaker, 2 surround speakers, 2 rear surround speakers, a powered subwoofer, and an universal remote control. With seven speakers rated at 110W and the 230W powered subwoofer, the system is rated at a combined total of 1,000W. It is covered by a 24 month parts/labor warranty.


Packaging:
The entire system comes in one box, measuring 30"L x 22"D x 30.5" H, and weighs 101.2 lbs.

What's Included in the Box (from Crutchfield.com)
HT-R540 A/V Receiver
2 SKF-540F Front speakers
1 SKC-540C Center channel speaker
2 SKM-540S Surround satellite speakers
2 SKB-540 Surround Back satellite speakers
1 SKW-540 Powered subwoofer
RC-649M Wireless remote control
2 "AA" batteries
1 AM loop antenna
1 FM wire antenna
Speaker terminal tool
9.5' Mono subwoofer cable (RCA)
One 9.85' Length of speaker wire (each length of speaker wire has tinned bare wire on each end)
Two 14.77' lengths of speaker wire
Four 29.5' lengths of speaker wire
Instruction Manual
Remote control code list
Quick Set-up guide
Product Registration Card
XM Satellite radio information
DS-A1 iPod dock information
Speaker terminal tool information
Optical digital cable connection information


Receiver:
The receiver is actually a re-numbered Onkyo TX-SR504 receiver. Interestingly, although the Onkyo TX-SR504 is rated at 75W/Ch, the re-badged HT-R540 is rated at 110W/Ch. There are a total of four digital audio inputs - 1 digital coaxial and 3 digital optical audio inputs. Although the receiver can accept numerous video inputs, it does not upconvert video signals - in other words, the video goes out of the receiver the same way it comes it - it does not "up-convert" composite or S-video to component. There is also no HDMI input.

Surround channels: 7.1
Power per channel (Front/Center/Surround/Rear Surround): 110 Watts
Subwoofer power: 230 watts
Total Rated power: 1000 Watts
THD @ rated power: 0.08%

Inputs and outputs
# of digital inputs: 3 digital optical, 1 digital coaxial audio
# of component video inputs: 3
S-video inputs: Yes

Types of digital decoding
Dolby® Pro Logic: Yes
Dolby® Pro Logic II: Yes
DTS (Digital Theater Systems): Yes

Dimensions (H x W x D, Inches): 17.1 x 5.9 x 14.8
Weight: 20.7 lbs.


Speakers:
The front and center speakers feature Dual cones (5 1/4" for the fronts, 4" for the center) (most HTIB's speakers are only 1 cone). while the surround and rear surround speakers are the more traditional single 4" cone. The system also comes with a powered subwoofer rated at 230W which features a 10" woofer.

Front speakers
Type: 2-way (Dual 5 1/4" cone)
Dimensions (H x W x D): 6.2" x 17.1" x 7.9"
Weight: 8.6 lbs.

Center speaker
Type: 2-way (Dual 4" cone)
Dimensions (H x W x D): 6.8" x 17.1" x 7.9"
Weight: 8.6 lbs.

Surround speakers
Type: 2-way (4" cone)
Dimensions (H x W x D): 6.9" x 10.4" x 4"
Weight: 3.1 lbs.

Rear surround speakers
Type: 2-way (4" cone)
Dimensions (H x W x D): 6.9" x 10.4" x 4"
Weight: 3.1 lbs.

Subwoofer
Type: 10" cone
Dimensions (H x W x D): 10.8" x 20.4" x 16.2"
Weight: 30.0 lbs.


Owners Manual:
You can download the Owner's Manual in pdf form from Onkyousa.com here:
Owner's Manual


Related Threads:
- Speaker stands and mounts: Link #1, Link #2

- Speaker wire: Link #1


Cables and Speaker Wire:

Forget Monster cable - they are ridiculously overpriced. A lot of people (myself included) go with Monoprice.com for their cables. Here are the appropriate links for some cables you might need in 6' lengths. Be sure to measure the exact lengths you need - and taking into account extra length needed when pulling the receiver out of your entertainment center.

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6' HDMI $6.37 (currently out of stock).

6' Digital Audio Coaxial Cable $5.42.

12' Digital Audio Coaxial Cable $6.38 - same cable just longer. Use for the subwoofer.

6' Digital Audio Optical Cable $4.87.

100' 14 AWG Speaker Wire $23.98

100' 16 AWG Speaker Wire $14.94
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Base System
Onkyo HT-S790

Modifications
Replaced surround and surround back speakers with Pioneer S-HF21-LR speakers (4) and replaced all stock speaker wire with 14 gauge speaker wire.

General Impressions
Good introductory system. All speakers are quite larger than most "satellite" systems. The front and centers are true bookshelf size and are at least six times the size of the HTIB speakers of the old system they replaced.

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good move...this should have been done long ago. let's hope it turns into a valuable resource for owners/potential owners of this system....the king of the $400 HTIB's. hail to the king, baby.

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Nice, I just picked up this set yesterday and now an official thread! So here's the first question.

Any advice on trying to wall mount the speakers? I think I would like to put the rear speakers up high on the wall pointing at a downward angle.
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I just picked up a HT-S790 system too. So far I am pretty impressed with this system. Actually, I am downgrading from my Mirage towers, center and sub, because they were too big for my apartment and my girlfriend didn't like the big tower speakers.

I was wondering about placement too. I was considering getting a set of 24 inch stands (omnimount or sanus) for the fronts and two sets of 31 inch stands for the rear sets. Does that sound good? Also what gauge and type of speaker wire are people using to replace the wimpy speaker cables that come with the setup? Any ideas on conduit or raceway to hide the cables?
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What speaker mounts is everybody using for these? Having trouble finding black ones that fit this size. Would also like wall mounts for the front side speakers. Any ideas??
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Here are a few previous threads on speaker stands for the HT-S790:

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Also what gauge and type of speaker wire are people using to replace the wimpy speaker cables that come with the setup? Any ideas on conduit or raceway to hide the cables?

I am using 14 gauge speaker wire. I had a tough time getting it through the posts, but with a little effort, it fits. Any thicker and you would probably have to use Banana Plugs.

Here is another thread on speaker wire:

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Thanks tigershark! I saw those posts earlier, just wondering if anybody else had found any good wall mounts. The more suggestions the better.

Also, anybody notice a quality difference with the different wire? We just used what was in the box. Didn't know it mattered....
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Thanks tigershark! I saw those posts earlier, just wondering if anybody else had found any good wall mounts. The more suggestions the better.

Also, anybody notice a quality difference with the different wire? We just used what was in the box. Didn't know it mattered....

To tell you the truth, I didn't even use the included speaker wire so I can't speak to how much "better" the thicker speaker wire is. It is generally accepted, however, that the thicker the speaker wire, the better. I also don't use speaker mounts or wall mounts (I just put them on some shelves). Good luck in your search.
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Just picked it up last night. I want some 14 gauge wire as well but monoprice has them on back order for about a month. Any other website to find good wire for this system?

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Just picked it up last night. I want some 14 gauge wire as well but monoprice has them on back order for about a month. Any other website to find good wire for this system?

try partsexpress and blue jeans cable for interconnects. you can get decent speaker wire on the cheap (by the foot) at home depot or lowes.

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Sorry if old.

The original price of the Onkyo HT-S790 in cart is 379.99 after rebates but there is a $50 off on-line coupon that CC itself is showing in their Home Page themselves.

http://www.circuitcity.com/ccd/prod...heater%20System

Isn't the system worth it at that price.

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Just picked it up last night. I want some 14 gauge wire as well but monoprice has them on back order for about a month. Any other website to find good wire for this system?

http://www.pacificcable.com/Picture_...Name=255-514CL

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Thanks for the link, just ordered it!

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try partsexpress and blue jeans cable for interconnects. you can get decent speaker wire on the cheap (by the foot) at home depot or lowes.

I found that Home Depot or Lowes is cheaper than on-line for the thinner wire, or if you don't need too much (since you don't pay for shipping). But once you get up to 14 gauge and/or 100 ft. + (I needed 150 ft. for my set-up), it pays to go on-line.

I am also planning to upgrade the cheap RCA sub-woofer cable with a better one from Monoprice soon (the stock one seems so thin). Does anyone know if it will make a difference? I would think so, but I don't know.
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I got my 100ft 12ga from monoprice for under $25. No local store could come close to touching that. But I have used Home Depot in the past when I needed shorter runs of wire quickly.

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I am also planning to upgrade the cheap RCA sub-woofer cable with a better one from Monoprice soon (the stock one seems so thin). Does anyone know if it will make a difference? I would think so, but I don't know.

there will be little difference, if any. you'd be better off putting that money into the new subwoofer fund, its really the only way to see a marked improvement. of course, this assumes that you have experimented with placement, calibration, cross-overs, etc. and are thus getting the best possible performance out of the HTIB sub.

a decent $200+ 10" sub will easily outperform that onkyo sub in terms of sound quality, extension, and output and it only gets better as you go up the food chain. a more capable sub makes a huge difference for this system.

i sold my onkyo sub on ebay for $125, so the upgrade to an SVS PB-10 only really ended up costing me $325. makes upgrading an easier decision.

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there will be little difference, if any. you'd be better off putting that money into the new subwoofer fund, its really the only way to see a marked improvement. of course, this assumes that you have experimented with placement, calibration, cross-overs, etc. and are thus getting the best possible performance out of the HTIB sub.

a decent $200+ 10" sub will easily outperform that onkyo sub in terms of sound quality, extension, and output and it only gets better as you go up the food chain. a more capable sub makes a huge difference for this system.

i sold my onkyo sub on ebay for $125, so the upgrade to an SVS PB-10 only really ended up costing me $325. makes upgrading an easier decision.


So there is no real reason to upgrade the subwoofer cable? Well, that saved me $10. Anyone know of any other cheap upgrades or free settings / calibrations to improve the performance of this system, short of buying new speakers?
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I've had the s790 hooked up for about a week now and i love it so far, much better than my crap boombox .

What kind of speaker levels do you guys use for normal movie viewing? I usually use about +2center, +2sub, and +4-5 to the surround and back. I haven't messed with distance or any other calibration settings, just the speaker levels.
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What kind of speaker levels do you guys use for normal movie viewing? I usually use about +2center, +2sub, and +4-5 to the surround and back. I haven't messed with distance or any other calibration settings, just the speaker levels.

it depends entirely on your room/setup, there are no universal settings. to get this system performing its best, calibrating using the test tones and an SPL meter is your best bet. even better would be to use a calibration disc like avia and an SPL meter.

even at $400, this is a significant investment that is unfortunately not a plug-and-play scenario. calibration is really required to realize its full potential.

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Hi,

Ordered mine last night over the phone. Cost $329.99 after the $30.00 rebate and the $50.00 "Cyber Monday" Use coupon code YEA2M45AGJ. I guess "Cyber Monday" lasts all week Due for delivery in the morning - Yeeha! Go FEDEX!

I might make my own stands when I have time (just finished modifying my TV stand to make all my cables, surge protector, plugs etc. disappear) and wife is now happy for that.

Meanwhile...WalMart has some stands and mounts that actually look good for fronts and are ajustable for $29.84 a pair.

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/produ...uct_id=5019646

Rears and or wall mounts are not bad either at $ 8.46 a pair.
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Hey Bumsi, did you really get it for $329, or was it $379. On line right now it lists for $379? If you got it for $329 I'm tempted to order it on line and then return "it" with my receipt for $399 that paid for it on Friday. It just irks me that I went to the store on Black Friday and now it's cheaper.
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Hey Bumsi, did you really get it for $329, or was it $379. On line right now it lists for $379? If you got it for $329 I'm tempted to order it on line and then return "it" with my receipt for $399 that paid for it on Friday. It just irks me that I went to the store on Black Friday and now it's cheaper.

Yes...$329.99 Just checked my account at CC website...

It has gone back up $10.00 BASE PRICE since last night, so $419.99 minus $30 rebate, = $389.99, minus $50 "Cyber Monday use coupon code YEA2M45AGJ" = $339.99 as of right now 1:35 pm CT.

Last night base price was $409.99 + rebate and cyber Monday discount.
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Im about to pull the trigger on a 790S and going to head over there from work, but before I go can someone tell me how this system is packaged? If it's one huge box I'm worried it might not fit in my car.

Are there small boxes inside the big box? That way I can open it on the spot and take them out and put them in my car. If not I'll have to let them ship it (but im too impatient )
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Im about to pull the trigger on a 790S and going to head over there from work, but before I go can someone tell me how this system is packaged? If it's one huge box I'm worried it might not fit in my car.

Are there small boxes inside the big box? That way I can open it on the spot and take them out and put them in my car. If not I'll have to let them ship it (but im too impatient )

The box is really big and about 100lbs. It's just one big box, no smaller boxes inside. You will need a truck or van to move it. Good luck
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Bumsi, when I got to CC web site it says start price of $499.99. So frustrating....


Sorry, figured it out now. I didn't realize you still had to enter the coupon code. I've ordered it. Hopefully they'll let me return the other. What a joke to only offer the rebate with an on line order.
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Im about to pull the trigger on a 790S and going to head over there from work, but before I go can someone tell me how this system is packaged? If it's one huge box I'm worried it might not fit in my car.

Are there small boxes inside the big box? That way I can open it on the spot and take them out and put them in my car. If not I'll have to let them ship it (but im too impatient )


It is packaged in one big box and weighs over 100 lbs. It will not fit in a regular car in the original box (it barely fit in my SUV - the box is quite tall). If I remember correctly, it is packaged with a lot of styrofoam, but not smaller boxes. If you want to pick it up, you could just open the box, and take out the speakers and receivers and arrange the components in your trunk and backseat. The only really big piece is the subwoofer. It is quite large and weighs 30 lbs by itself. Still, all the pieces should fit IF they are taken out of the original box.

Note: All dimensions and weights are listed in the first post above.
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Great set-up with the stands. They really let you set-up the speakers exactly where you want them for good sound imaging.
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