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post #121 of 139 Old 02-02-2011, 11:23 PM
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Hey Guys.....

Don't tell anyone this, but MississippiMan was born and raised in Indy.

I left my mark on that town.....

....unless they got around to cleaning that spot up since I left.

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Folks, let me make a recommendation...

A Silver Fire 3.0 screen and Glenrothes Select Reserve is a damn fine combination.
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Hey Guys.....

Don't tell anyone this, but MississippiMan was born and raised in Indy.

I left my mark on that town.....

....unless they got around to cleaning that spot up since I left.

MM, its time to make your homecoming and show us how it's done!
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Folks, let me make a recommendation...

A Silver Fire 3.0 screen and Glenrothes Select Reserve is a damn fine combination.

I like the way you celebrate your win tonight. I thought we had a chance there for a minute...

I ordered my sprayer from Gleem and it was supposed to come today, but with the ice, I think it might be next week.

A few questions on the mix. How much did you get in one batch? I am having trouble locating some concise directions. I see the different parts of the mix that you have to combine and then add the colorants but with what and how long should they be mixed?

Thanks for your help. MM thanks for your help as well.
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The original SF mix made almost a gallon which ended up being almost twice what I needed for a 120" diagonal.

I mixed with a squirrel cage mixer a few minutes until no color variation could be seen. You can buy those at home depot. Let me know if a pic would help.

BTW, I have kids so I used a few 5 mL medicine syringes from the kids' medicine to measure out the colorant, the kind you get free at CVS when you buy medicine.
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So you used the squirrel cage on both the viscosity/base and the colorants? Or can you just hand mix the colorants as it doesn't seem to be very paint. I plan on using the squirrel cage for the final SF mix.
Just realized how easy it is to highjack someone's thread. Sorry for that. I'll start my own thread here shortly. Just waiting to get all the ingredients together.
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Oh yeah, I just hand mixed the colorants before adding 3 oz to the base and mixing the final mix with the squirrel cage mixer. I did spend a couple minutes mixing the colorants to make sure it was well mixed.

No prob on the threadjack, glad I could help a little.
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MM, its time to make your homecoming and show us how it's done!

You guys should head on down to Radio Radio, a Retro-Music Night Spot down on English in Fountain Square. There are two 110" SF 2.0 Light Fusion Screens hanging there, and if the PJs are beamin' (They go through Bulbs pretty quickly with the DLPs in use...) you'll see how well even a lighter shade of SF can handle considerable ambient light.

Ask for Dave (owner) or Ronnie (Co-owner) and tell them Maurice sent ya.

....then duck and cover.

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OK MM, I'll take a crack at it without the full skim coat and see what it looks like after a couple coats of grey primer.

I plan to use this: Is Glidden Gripper Grey OK? Also, I got the standard mesh paint strainers, these OK? Figured I'd ask before using so I can return if needed.

Also, I plan to prime with White after grey before the SF mix. Is this necessary?

Thanks! Grey primer goes on tomorrow.


Why the two different primers?
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using a grey primer.. helps you see a find all the imperfections much better than a white primer.

as for the white primer... it doesn't necessarily have to a primer... but all good SF or MaxxMudd screens should start with a white basecoat or white substrate. That is, unless you are going the mirror or dibond aluminum substrates.

SF or MaxxMudd screens work on the principles of Light Fusion, and therefore they are semi-translucent to make good use of the white or mirror substrates to effectively improve white levels over their grey counterparts.
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Thanks for the help. Is there a base white that you recommend? Seems like most people are putting down a couple coats of Kilz. Is this the recommended way to go?
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Thanks for the help. Is there a base white that you recommend? Seems like most people are putting down a couple coats of Kilz. Is this the recommended way to go?

Just use the UPW you have left over from making the RS-MaxxMudd. That is, if you bought a gallon.

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Develvjd,
I love how you were a little down on your results at first and now MM is using your screen as an example how well a DIY SF screen can perform. I wouldn't worry about doing your screen over again, I would say you nailed it.
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^^ 2nd'ed. Thank you for the excellent work.

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reposting my Superbowl screenshots in my build thread for the sake of posterity...

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I like to watch sports with the lights on... so here you go- high ambient light shots. These all represent the room conditions pretty well. 11 (yes eleven) 65W flood incandescents FULL ON and one CFL full on. You can see in some of the pics that the three incandescents closest to the screen are off. Light carpet, ultra white ceiling, 4" from screen to bulkhead, pretty much all the mean things you can do to a screen and I'm floored with the results.

**Disclaimer: The pics pick up a blue tint from my $150 camera... it's not there in reality.

Epson 8350
Living room ECO mode
12'3" throw
120" diag
Silver Fire 3.0 on drywall
OTA HD signal, entry model Yamaha receiver, Monoprice speakers, HDMI cable, etc.

enough already...

action shot from the back of the room to show ambient lighting "challenges"


angle 2, same lighting, diagonal corner of room


not a bad seat in the house with the SF mix.


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more screen performance vs. ambient lighting


AYS??



stitched combination of the 2 photos above (in the spoiler tags). This is really what the screen looks like in these lighting conditions.


just sayin.

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They look just as good the 2nd time around too.

'specially Kim.


BTW, I love the simplicity of your set-up & seating. It represents a true example of "Having your Cake & Eating it too", while not spending too much for the Ingredients, or the accompanying Eating utensils.

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This is a great Thread and I love the results of your screen. I'm about to get started on my screen and I plan on using silver fire v2 3.0. I will be painting directly on new drywall. Do I need to use a white primer or a grey primer? I'm still a little confused.

Also, I went out today and got most of the components to make the the SF mix. Will I have enough to finish a 130" screen or do I need to make additional batches?
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The idea is to use a grey primer to find all of the fuglies and imperfections that you can't see! So figure out your screen size and slap a quick coat of grey primer on there and start repairing. you want it babys-butt smooth or as someone said like the inside of your elbow smooth.

After you got that wall perfect (and I mean perfect, I can attest once sprayed every little thing will transfer through)

Then you apply your true WHITE primer base coats prior to applying your SF.


FWIW: For a 120" screen I used about the whole batch of SF 3.0 Version 1....that is just my experience!
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This is a sic setup develvjd-

I have a question if you are still monitoring this thread, what brand / color paint did you use for the walls around the projector. This was a very similar color I had envisioned for my setup, and you proofed the concept already...it works.


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