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Well here's the deal. You are going to have to equalize the edges around the perimeter....make then flat so when you run off the Top/Bottom/Side edges there is no drop-off.

Is the edge of the Sintra unsupported, or backed all the way out to the edge?
Okay. That shouldn't be too much of an issue. I'll give myself plenty of room with plastic too.

It's fully supported around the entire perimeter with the exception of the last inch and a half for the led lights.
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Well I got my sintra up! Unfortunately I wasn't able to spray it before we painted...but oh well. I'll put plastic up. I'm spraying my screen on Saturday morning and wanted to make sure this all looks good one last time.

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SILVER FIRE v2.5 3.0


STEPS I PLAN TO DO
1) mix the colorant components seperately and set aside
2) mix viscosity + reflective components together using squirrel mixer
3) strain step #2 above using nylon paint strainer (should have consistancy of milk...add water if needed)
4) mix colorant in using squirrel mixer


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i will be using a few different size syringes for measuring my colorant
i will be using the "1000ml Electric HVLP Air Spray Gun Kit 600W Motor Paint Sprayer 1.0mm Nozzle DIY" sprayer from amazon







I can understand fully why MM said to paint the screen first.... thats a big job now overspray is a bitch..

I like the set up color though... cool what shade of grey is that on the the wall or what color is it?
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I can understand fully why MM said to paint the screen first.... thats a big job now overspray is a bitch..

I like the set up color though... cool what shade of grey is that on the the wall or what color is it?
Yea for sure. I have tons of plastic leftover from other jobs though. I should be able to get it all nicely setup. It's almost like a greyish purple...my wife picked it out. I forget what it's called.
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As I get closer to being able to spray (and thereby closer to being able to try out SF as it's meant to be applied), I'm realizing an important aspect with spraying that I keep overlooking..

Is there a safe way to store the gun between coats, or an easy way to rinse it between them (like removing and sealing the paint-cup and then simply blasting water through the gun as a rinse)..OR do I need to breakdown and completely clean this bugger 8 separate times roughly every 45minutes?
Because that sounds like the least fun option.

Simple <$250 dedicated black-fabric theater room, build in a day, takedown in an hour.
Easy $25-40 DIY black/dark-grey ambient-light rejecting screen, grab two things from a local store..mix..roll..done.
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Considering this route but the cost of materials for a single 90" screen looks like it's going to be abit much. Is there a forum member who happens to sell this formula pre-mixed?

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As I get closer to being able to spray (and thereby closer to being able to try out SF as it's meant to be applied), I'm realizing an important aspect with spraying that I keep overlooking..

Is there a safe way to store the gun between coats, or an easy way to rinse it between them (like removing and sealing the paint-cup and then simply blasting water through the gun as a rinse)..OR do I need to breakdown and completely clean this bugger 8 separate times roughly every 45minutes?
Because that sounds like the least fun option.
The Gun can be left "as is" for 2 or three coats, then broke down and cleaned...which by the way takes all of 3-4 minutes.

It's really simple and quick. But I suppose you have to "go there" to realize that.

OK...Ok...I'll make a gun cleaning video....again. Just to put that Dog down.
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The Gun can be left "as is" for 2 or three coats, then broke down and cleaned...which by the way takes all of 3-4 minutes.

It's really simple and quick. But I suppose you have to "go there" to realize that.

OK...Ok...I'll make a gun cleaning video....again. Just to put that Dog down.
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The Gun can be left "as is" for 2 or three coats, then broke down and cleaned...which by the way takes all of 3-4 minutes.

It's really simple and quick. But I suppose you have to "go there" to realize that.

OK...Ok...I'll make a gun cleaning video....again. Just to put that Dog down.
If you've got a video already that you still feel is relevant (I'm not sure how much these things really change) it'd be great to post a link in the first post to this thread..if there isn't one already and I just missed it.

Is it safe to just leave the gun out for those 2-3coats while they dry or should it be bagged or left with its head in a cup of water or something?

Three breakdowns sounds a lot better and I can certainly imagine it getting easier and faster with a little practice.

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If you've got a video already that you still feel is relevant (I'm not sure how much these things really change) it'd be great to post a link in the first post to this thread..if there isn't one already and I just missed it.

Is it safe to just leave the gun out for those 2-3coats while they dry or should it be bagged or left with its head in a cup of water or something?

Three breakdowns sounds a lot better and I can certainly imagine it getting easier and faster with a little practice.
It does, although it isn't hard from the beginning.

The older Cleaning videos involved the Wagner CS heads, but the method is essentially the same.

You unscrew the Spray Head from the Paint Cup (in a sink) and rinse off the exterior of the Siphon Draw Tube.
You unscrew the Nozzle Ring and remove the Air Atomizer Cover and then remove and Rinse the inset Needle Cover.
You invert the Head and pull off the Siphon Draw Tube and rinse water through it.
Placing a finger over the larger Air Draw Hole, you direct a strong stream of water down the Draw Tube orifice so that the water exits out and around the open Needle assembly.
Do the latter until the water runs clear (10 seconds)
Re-assemble.

Usually, cleaning is done whenever you also load up the Paint Cup, and that happens about every 3 coats if you start out with a 3/4 full Cup.

Really large screens, where your painting for 2+ minutes and using 1/2+ a Cup will cause the Gun to heat up. Heat will quickly thicken the paint inside the Needle orifice, reducing flow....so yeah...if your painting a 160"er, a cleaning every 2 coats or even every coat would be best.
Also.........Excessive long drying times due to high humidity with cooler temps can make it necessary to clean between coats...but at 3-4 minutes per...so what?

I do wipe the Needle tip with a cloth or even my fingertip after each coat, to help prevent any paint that is on the outside from gumming up / blocking the paint flow.

And after every job is completely done, I remove the Needle itself, rinse the gun as normal, wipe the Needle clean, and let the Gun dry out un-assembled.

I gotta say, everything above happens very quickly, and with practice / repetition, a 3 minute cleaning is very much a standard effort.

A movie depicting the entire process...including Needle removal... will follow, edited into this Post, as well as posted as a new Thread for easy access.
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I messed up my silver fire screen pretty bad. Need help on best way to fix it. I'm for coats in on sintra ... And need to start over. What's the best way to do that?
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I was an idiot and forgot to add only 3oz of colorant.... Instead I added the entire thing without thinking. It's quite sparkly.
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I was an idiot and forgot to add only 3oz of colorant.... Instead I added the entire thing without thinking. It's quite sparkly.
Sand the existing coats to dull down the reflective effect....and also spray on 3 light coats of UPW on top the current coats

Then the best thing to do to salvage the stuff is to add a full 12 oz of UPW to what you have left.

So how much mix did you start out with, exactly how much Colorant did you make / mix in.....and how much mix is currently left?

Man....ya had to go and get all "Narhic_fd" on us, eh?

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Hi , Bit of a newbie here so go easy on me.

Really really impressed with the Silver Fire Paint (been looking at loads of forums and these has the most positive feedback) !

So how well can it handle ambient light or even sunlight into the room (not direct on screen)?, i'm thinking of putting a projector in our living room but very concerned on the spend if we aren't going to be able to use it till the sun goes down! It will be the deciding factor between a tiny 50" plasma or a reasonable 100" - I know which one i'm gunning for.

Can anyone help by converting the brands / makes of paints for Silver fire to some paints that can be found in UK , as been on amazon and its very expensive for the ones i can find and obviously a little more tricky to buy the ones i cant find .

Thanks
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