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Old 08-22-2016, 09:02 AM - Thread Starter
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Many thank you's MississippiMan! Would you recommend the same 1.0mm spray guns for priming?
You can use it, by starting with the thinner Kinsser 123, and further thinning it with water until it strains freely at a slow pour through a Bag Strainer.

It will require at least 3-4 coats, (4 coats is best) but they are Dusters, and will dry very quickly. Sand lightly after the next to last coat for a ultra smooth primed surface.

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MississippiMan, do you recommend sanding the painted screen at any point, maybe before the last 1 or 2 coats?
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MississippiMan, do you recommend sanding the painted screen at any point, maybe before the last 1 or 2 coats?
Sometimes during the Dusting process, a slight amount of coarse texture can happen (feels slightly "sand-papery" like) This usually happens because the Gun is being held too far from the surface (12" to 14" is the maximum distance)

On / about the 5-6th coats, the slight texture can be eliminated by sanding very lightly over the entire surface. The object is not "removal" but "smoothing".

Wipe or Dust the screen surface clean with a soft cloth, and apply 2 Dusters.

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Starting the priming today, will post pics when it's all done!

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I recently bought a 3200 lumen projector called Optoma DH1012. A projector that has 1000 lumes more then my previous projector. I decided to make up a test sample of Silver Fire 5.0 to see how it looked. I made the sample to specs but added an extra 3oz Behr UPW. Now, I only made a quater batch but i took extra care at scaling down the measurements to equal the correct amounts.

6 oz rustoleum white pearl
6 oz rustoleum silver
4 oz rustoleum ult poly matte
3.25 oz Behr UPW
1tbs + 3/4 tsp liquitex gold
plus colorant and water needed to spray


I sprayed only 3 coats on white covered surface but it has a grainy look to it. I imagine that the higher lumens contribute to seeing more graininess but suprised at seeing it in only 3 coats . What could be giving it such a grainy look from the mica?? Can to much water in the mix be the prob??? The higher lumens?? What?? What would a personalized Silver Fire 5.0 reciepe for my projector be that would lessen the grainy look?? Thanks.
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Too few coats. 3 Coats is 4 coats too few. You cannot get a smooth look with a freckled surface.

Try 8 oz Pearl and 4 oz Silver w/2 oz UPW

You should not need the Gold when using RustOleum Metallic paint, but doing so can add a bit warmness to Skin Tones, as well as help the darker 5.0 Gray hue be more neutral. Add it sparingly though. There is Gold already in the Colorant.

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Too few coats. 3 Coats is 4 coats too few. You cannot get a smooth look with a freckled surface.

Try 8 oz Pearl and 4 oz Silver w/2 oz UPW

You should not need the Gold when using RustOleum Metallic paint, but doing so can add a bit warmness to Skin Tones, as well as help the darker 5.0 Gray hue be more neutral. Add it sparingly though. There is Gold already in the Colorant.
Now when you say 2 Oz of UPW you mean it in the quater batch correct?? 2 oz of UPW in 1/4 batch and 8 oz if doing full batch.
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Now when you say 2 Oz of UPW you mean it in the quater batch correct?? 2 oz of UPW in 1/4 batch and 8 oz if doing full batch.
Of course....I tailored my response to fit your example.

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Too few coats. 3 Coats is 4 coats too few. You cannot get a smooth look with a freckled surface.

Try 8 oz Pearl and 4 oz Silver w/2 oz UPW

You should not need the Gold when using RustOleum Metallic paint, but doing so can add a bit warmness to Skin Tones, as well as help the darker 5.0 Gray hue be more neutral. Add it sparingly though. There is Gold already in the Colorant.
How much liquitex gold??
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2 Teaspoons per your 1/4 ration mix
2 Tablespoons per 4x mix

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2 Teaspoons per your 1/4 ration mix
2 Tablespoons per 4x mix
Just in case this was a brainfart instead of on-purpose, I'm pretty sure the difference between a teaspoon and a Tablespoon is 1:3 and not 1:4....a teaspoon being roughly 5ml and a Tablespoon being roughly 15ml.

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Just in case this was a brainfart instead of on-purpose, I'm pretty sure the difference between a teaspoon and a Tablespoon is 1:3 and not 1:4....a teaspoon being roughly 5ml and a Tablespoon being roughly 15ml.
Wholly intentional, as I would not want the additional 2 Teaspoons added (6 vs 8)

I was centered on reducing the Gold.
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Viscosity Component

When mixing SF, should I only apply enough Viscosity Component to the base to bring the base to the appropriate thickness? Or do I put the entire 40-52 oz in the base and further thin with water from there?

Also, I'm a little confused about the "Liqutex Basics Silver" note. My understanding is that I should not be using Liqutex Basics Silver for anything. That is a note for people familiar with some previous iteration of the recipe, right?

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