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Thanks to MM & PB and others helping me come up with this solution. I am beyond pleased with the look. The brightness and clarity is hard to explain. The screen is slow large too. I am not finished yet since I will frame it off but wanted to share. Here is a video. (the camera I used was not the greatest so it is NOT a true representation of how clear this unit really is.





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Daylight w/o any curtains up and an iphone pic


Some of the lights turned on

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very very nice. did you spray or travel that narrow road of rolling that one of the RETRO posters recently accomplished.
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very very nice. did you spray or travel that narrow road of rolling that one of the RETRO posters recently accomplished.

My painter rolled the primer 3 coats, then sprayed 4 coats of Mudmaxx. He spent a week sanding and prepping the wall. It is smooth as butter and is amazing.

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My painter rolled the primer 3 coats, then sprayed 4 coats of Mudmaxx. He spent a week sanding and prepping the wall. It is smooth as butter and is amazing.

and what did HE think?!
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He was happy with it. He never saw the final product. I am amazed how clear it is at this size.

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In the video attachment the skin tones look like they got sprayed at a tanning booth.

In the pictures the right side looks totally washed out. Color and detail look like it got sucked out of the picture.

If this is a representation of your image then you have a number of very serious issues.
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In the video attachment the skin tones look like they got sprayed at a tanning booth.

In the pictures the right side looks totally washed out. Color and detail look like it got sucked out of the picture.

If this is a representation of your image then you have a number of very serious issues.

The video and camera - same unit and 5 years old. It was running in dynamic mode and is amazing to my eyes. Blacks are not as deep as my plasma 65 panny.

The last pic was in full daylight that is why one side is washed out.

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on my JVC the my blacks are and contrast are better than my panny. Which panny do you have. I mostly deal with the 6010 and the 5010 for reference and these beat my panny as well,, despite that 2 million to 1 advertised contrast ratio.

I know its tough to rely on pics and video and hope that it all comes out as what you see when being translated by a bunch of external elements.

You wouldnt watch a movie in the daylight like that so why the camera shot of it.

If this is your first projector its normal to be tickled by the big image. Take a look at some of the shots in the screen shot wars.

At the end of the day it doesnt really matter as long as you are happy with it.

I really like the blue color you have in the room.
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Which panny do you have.
panasonic vt2565


You wouldnt watch a movie in the daylight like that so why the camera shot of it.
We just finished the paint and working on the rest of the room i.e. curtains, stereo setup, blackout on the windows. This is 100% dedicated theater room.

If this is your first projector its normal to be tickled by the big image.
No, I had a 96" Infocus for 10 years. I love big screens and pretty impressed with the 3010 unit along with the MaxxMud

At the end of the day it doesnt really matter as long as you are happy with it.
We will, thanks

I really like the blue color you have in the room
Thanks, the ceiling is actually darker than the walls, just hard to tell.

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That Sir, is a big Image. A somewhat giant leap up from 96"

There are well known ways to produce photo images of content and be able to have them be exacting enough to judge performance by. Basically, much if not all lies in the hand of the "Taker", and through technique and observation, images that can be honestly said to represent what "The Eye" sees at entire;y possible.

All the more so in these days of high contrast, high resolution projectors.

But those very improvements of contrast and brightness can make taking accurate photos harder....like shooting portraits outside in full sunlight.

The final say? The photographer's own veracity is at stake...he's either accepted as knowing the how to-why-when of taking dark room & ambient light imagery, or anything can...and usually will be called into question.

..........unless you own a CRT and post 'em on "that" Screen Shot War thread. For some odd reason, no one ever questions anybody on there???? Could it be that image quality and reduced light output, and the fact that virtually all such screenies are taken in total darkness, possible have more...no, a LOT to do with a camera's ability to meter out and grab a balanced light input through the Len's and onto the CCD sensors? Surely not!!!

Just guessing, I'd say that screen was at least 135" diagonal in 2.35:1 mode.

The images you took, considering the IPhone's camera and the screen's size, look pretty good for impromptu. Let me know if you can procure a decent Digital and I'll be glad to give you some pointers.


BTW, the Ceiling being a Darker shade of the Wall color......brilliant idea! Where did you pick up on that?
Works just as good as "Black", but looks much better when the lights are "up".

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the first shot pretty much told me what i needed to know...
and the other shots... well, that iphone was being blistered by brightness it couldn't handle.
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the first shot pretty much told me what i needed to know...
and the other shots... well, that iphone was being blistered by brightness it couldn't handle.

So what are your thoughts on the first image. Was that what the very nice comment was referring too?

As far as the ceiling goes, I like the contrast and know that it is less reflective the darker it is. Since it is shot from ceiling thought darker was better.

I am almost positive that the screen is much larger than 135.

Next step is to frame it out, just need to figure out the best since this projector will change aspects depending on the movie.

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Well 4 that large of an area I would strongly have you considered constant image height. that could be as simple as installing a couple of horozontal trim pieces at the desired screen height (top&bottom). That way, all you have to do for the side masks are simple curtains that movie in or out frame the specifics screen format..

Zoom and Lens shift handles the rest.

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