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Old 09-09-2012, 07:02 AM
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OK!

So is these the fabrics i need? I'm ordering from Spandexworld.com, and since i live in Sweden it would be kind of a hzzle if i ordered the wrong products smile.gif
There were some different versions of white and silver but i guess these two are the right ones, or?

Silver: http://spandexworld.com/c3/catalog/product/6409
White: http://spandexworld.com/c3/catalog/product/977
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Old 09-09-2012, 08:16 AM
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Yes that is what you want to order
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Another question! I'll have inwall speakers behind the screen, i'd like to get the screen as close to the wall as possible. Is it a problem to have the AT screen very close to the speakers?
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Just what i wanted to hear! Thank you!
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MississippiMan View Post

Silver over White has been shown to be the most effective combination.
...and yes, the TW9000 will do splendidly with the Silver Moleskin Spandex.

But in post #14 you wrote:

"The reasons for White over Silver are:

Lower Lumen PJ
No need for REALLY SIGNIFICANT Contrast Enhancement
Ambient Light issues are very minor or non-existant.
Desire for brightest image (White reproduction) possible."

He seems to have a bat cave. Thx
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But i guess that goes for, as stated by MM, lower lumen PJs. And the TW9000 (US: TW5010) is a high lumen PJ which needs the darker fabric (silver) to get the better contrast and better blacks
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But i guess that goes for, as stated by MM, lower lumen PJs. And the TW9000 (US: TW5010) is a high lumen PJ which needs the darker fabric (silver) to get the better contrast and better blacks

I am running 6010 with Silver over White and so far love it! I am running at ~135" diagonal.
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I am running 6010 with Silver over White and so far love it! I am running at ~135" diagonal.


Got pics of your screen build?

How many yards did you order?
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I am running 16:9.

I used 1x4 Poplar for the frame - the top and bottom are 10' wide and I think the height is about 68" (at work need to check when I get home)

I have an extra inch all around so that I can add a frame later.

As for brightness - I am using THX mode for both 2D and 3D.

For football I run at a higher setting - Either Cinema or the other top setting in the list (can't remember what its called - I belive it is right above "Living Room") and it looks great with recessed lights on that are away from the screen.

Allows everyone to move around and hang out.

I have a sample of the Center Stage XD and the 4k but haven't compared them yet.

I ordered 3 yards of the White and 3 Yards of the Silver and that fit just fine stretched over the screen. No problems getting it stretched to fit properly.

I have two center braces that I offset with washers between the brackets and the header and the footer boards so that they don't touch the spandex and create any bulges.

I will add pictures soon.
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I thought the XD material is $22 per sf?
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I didn't get a chance to take screenshots last night - big thunderstorm rolled through so I had the projector unplugged.

Here are a couple of pictures of the frame being built and the first layer of the white spandex.

I believe I am in ECO mode but I also only have about 15 hours on the bulb.







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Do you use any tools to help get your corners perfectly squared on the frame?

Nice build.
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My wife helped by holding the corners square using the framing square you see in the pictures.

While she held the pieces in place, I marked the holes for the brackets and then drilled pilot holes for the screws.

She then held the corners in place with the framing square on the inside corner and I put in the screws for the brackets.

I also bought brackets for the inside corners but turns out I didn't need to use them.

At first I put the cross beams in place but they were poking out which would have been seen pushing on the spandex so I took the top of the "T" brackets off and put washers between the top holes on the "T" brackets and the top and bottom braces and put the screws back in. This offset the cross brackets enough that they don't touch the spandex.
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Thanks, the offset on the support bar is a nice touch.

Wondering if I need to buy corner clamps to hold the pieces together tight while i screw on the corner brackets.
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OK - still very happy with the silver over white spandex. However, I built it with plans to put the speakers behind it. I currently have it hanging on the wall and I think I would like to keep it this way.

Now - since I have decided to keep it on the wall I was thinking of going with a non-AT screen. Primarily to get more brightness for 3D.

So my thoughts are:

1 - go commercial - IE - Elite Sable Cinewhite 135" for about $387

2 - purchase Elite Cinewhite screen material and somehow overlay my DIY screen - just got done chatting with Elite and the guy said it would be "cheaper than $80" for the Cinewhite at 135" diag 16:9 for the material - anyone have experience with this?

3 - just swap the silver and white spandex and go with White over Silver (or order another white spandex and staple it over the existing silver over white - easier than removing all the staples and I could fall back to silver over white if I am not happy with the white top layer)

Thoughts?

Again - I don't think I will be doing AT and would like to get the best picture with my Epson 6010 for a reasonable price.
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Old 10-18-2012, 06:36 PM
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I have no idea about the screen material you mentioned but I recently conducted a direct comarison between the Silver over White Spandex, White over White Spandex, Center Stage XD, & a neutral gain (1.0 I'm assuming) solid Vinyl from Draper. The list is in order of dimmest to brightest, with Silver Spandex WAY dimmer than the rest, White Spandex only slightly dimmer than the other two and Center Stage and the Vinyl being almost equally bright.

Anyone else have any comparisons such as these? How about compared to a painted screen directly on the wall?
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Sorry - typing on the iPad - thought I said thanks!

I do appreciate the info.
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Really enjoyed reading this thread. Greatly helped me understand AT screen and build.

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