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Hi folks,

I'll be building an AT screen, and looking for ideas on how to build a faux wall for it.

My front wall is about 10'x7', and the screen will likely be 110".

Any recent faux wall builds that I can look at for inspiration?

Or perhaps it's simpler just to build a stand to hang the AT screen on?

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edit: guess i meant false wall. here's a pic of my front wall.


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Use trusses with a twelve foot span. Attach those to the wall at a north by northwest trajectory. Staple on leather.
Mount your telescope with the equatorial mount set to 36 degrees of longitude.




Seriously, even with your photo, it is impossible to see what you are trying to do.
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Hi Smokarz,

 

I just framed a wall with studs.  I used like 4' spacing on the studs though so the screen wall material would have something to attach.  Whatever you do, remember to keep bracing and screen supports out of the center area so they don't block the center which I assume you'll be putting back there.

 

Good inspiration in clicky

 

Here is a minimalist approach clickmasterclick

 

This was the biggest impression my projector setup made on me, having the vocals come from the actors mouths is invaluable. 

 

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Use trusses with a twelve foot span. Attach those to the wall at a north by northwest trajectory. Staple on leather.
Mount your telescope with the equatorial mount set to 36 degrees of longitude.
Seriously, even with your photo, it is impossible to see what you are trying to do.


hmm....i thought it was pretty straight forward.

create a false wall to hang an AT screen and hide speakers behind it.
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Hi Smokarz,

I just framed a wall with studs.  I used like 4' spacing on the studs though so the screen wall material would have something to attach.  Whatever you do, remember to keep bracing and screen supports out of the center area so they don't block the center which I assume you'll be putting back there.

Good inspiration in clicky

Here is a minimalist approach clickmasterclick

This was the biggest impression my projector setup made on me, having the vocals come from the actors mouths is invaluable. 

Good Luck!


Thanks for links Nick.

I've look at the minimalist approach but still can't wrap my head around how it's done. Maybe I need to read it a little more. lol
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I do that sort of construction all the time, Only I fill in the middle and hang drywall over the entire structure. And paint. ;-)


With your project you need to build a structure that will toe into the cieling and walls solidly... And have a centralized opening that would be roughly 2 inches larger on all sides then your actual inside screen dimensions. You will lead to a ladder like construction that bridges is the 110 inch opening at the top

Framing can be made it much easier overall if you use 2x6 Top - Bottom - Side plates to toe-in and support your 16" o.c. Framing.

I'm kinda stuck here on the island of Maui at present without access any of my line drawing software or I could whip up a rough schematic that you could easily follow to get it framed up. I have your room, screen wall, and screen dimensions so if you can wait about 24 hours more I'll try to respond in a more helpful manner.

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Did you say Maui?

I am sure you can get lots of work done there. wink.gif
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Did you say Maui?
I am sure you can get lots of work done there. wink.gif

Yep. Working just as hard as I possibly can to consume mass quantities of shrimp, fish, excellent beer, and of course working especially hard at doing absolutely no work at all. And sometimes I actually get that accomplished.

But never nearly as much whenever I bring my cellphone and laptop along for the trip, which is of course every time I come on to the island.

1 thing that might help me purposefully direct my suggestion would be to know if you want the partition wall to be a truly solid structure or in fact a true partition.

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I definitely do not want a solid wall.

I will be placing my speakers and subs behind the wall/screen with AT fabric.
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I definitely do not want a solid wall.
I will be placing my speakers and subs behind the wall/screen with AT fabric.

A solid wall in this instance refers to a AT partition wall that is build solidly.

Be it a 1 piece...2 piece...or 3 piece affair, once assembled it should have some substance and mass.

Your Speaker system surely looks like it can produce some hefty SPLs...so it had better be substantial.

Your circumstance does not warrant your having anything remotely like a thin veneer.

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I see.

I am thinking a frame with 2x4 studs.
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I may be wrong, but the main issue with acoustic transparency is the screen material and coating. Since you already have your screen, or have decided what it will be made from, and you already have your speakers, I would first hang or place my speakers where they will ultimately go, and then I would temporarily hang my screen in the approximate position you want it to be in. Then I'd listen for acoustic distortion and I'd look for sound induced movement in the screen.

Then I'd decide on what I needed to build a frame or wall for the screen. My own preference would be something made from wood. because a lot of musical instruments are made from wood.

I would also lean toward making something that could be moved very easily, so I guess that means I favor a stand instead of a wall.


Then staple the leather on your trusses and set your telescope to the mean magnetic deviation on the chart.
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I have read several build threads that incorporate hinged AT screens....so that the screen area is used for access to the components behind them. I don't know the exact ones but I will try and track one down for you. I think these are the most effective space savers and "bang for the buck". They are also really cool looking when you flip up the screen to make an adjustment on the sub; of course, while your guests are present biggrin.gif

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I hinged mine and I have been back there much more than I ever thought.

 

 

I wouldn't worry about speakers moving the material.  I used Seymour AT fab and have had my subs within a few inches of the screen and it doesn't budge even when subs are full tilt.


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I do not want to build anything permanent so my plan is to use a garage door track mounting kit like this one. I am going bolt a long 2"x4" to it and then hang the screen using Zbar hangers I already have.

what I like about this approach is that I can easily change how far from the wall and how high the screen is mounted.

I am not sure if i will need to cover the openings on the sides of the screen with something (dark drapery?) to prevent the light bleed.
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I have read several build threads that incorporate hinged AT screens....so that the screen area is used for access to the components behind them. I don't know the exact ones but I will try and track one down for you. I think these are the most effective space savers and "bang for the buck". They are also really cool looking when you flip up the screen to make an adjustment on the sub; of course, while your guests are present biggrin.gif
Lone - quit bein a douchebag and offer some helpful advice. Jeeeeeshhhh. Or not and just go away.

Once I was able to translate what you wanted to do, I did give you good advice, Including hang the speakers first, then with the screen temporarily hung listen for sound distortion, and make a movable frame out of wood.

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Once I was able to translate what you wanted to do, I did give you good advice, Including hang the speakers first, then with the screen temporarily hung listen for sound distortion, and make a movable frame out of wood.
As far as my attempts at humor, my religion has an eleventh commandment - Thou shall laugh at thyself.


lol. i knew you had some kind of twisted humor.

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