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Well, after installing a BEHR Silverscreen 92" DIY screen in 2004 (yes, one of the originals!) with an IN 4805 (later upgraded to an IN 72 due to a bad bulb), I think I'm finally ready to upgrade again! I've been considering a EP 3010, 5010, or maybe waiting for the next models in the coming months... In any case, with this upgrade, I have the itch to go bigger than the 92" BEHR Silverscreen screen that has served me so well for many, many years!

Here are a few pics from the original build back in '04...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/11794817@N03/1184453110/in/photostream

http://www.flickr.com/photos/11794817@N03/1184453334/in/photostream

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http://www.flickr.com/photos/11794817@N03/1184456426/in/photostream

http://www.flickr.com/photos/11794817@N03/1184458214/in/photostream

Anyway.. enough reminiscing! Fast-forward eight+ years and two PJs... My three kids, who weren't even born yet during the original build, are now 7 and 8 and want 3D! Needless to say, I'm looking at PJs again, only now with 3D and 1080P is a requirement! And while I'm at it, I'm considering a new screen as well! I have a 106" mustang fixed 16x9 screen that came bundled with my IN 72 that has been sitting in my garage several years, that I've been considering putting up. However, the BEHR Silverscreen has served me well, so I'm yet again considering the DIY route!

As I understand it, one of the latest rages is to build a white over silver spandex screen?! Being a super busy guy, with very little time these days for projects (kids, work, life, etc..), the DIY option of the "easier" spandex screen (vs. SILVER paint), is looking pretty attractive and looks like something I could handle. Being a totally light controlled room (13'x16'x8'), with only a 15' or so max throw, is a 2:35 screen crazy talk? Should I consider it? I think I'd like to cram as much screen as I can onto the 13' wall (and still be semi-viewable from 11' or so first row). What type of PJ should I be considering for this screen? Are the Epson models appropriate? Are there better ones I should consider?

Anyway, as a long time lurker over the years, and rarely regular contributor, I thank you all for your input/thoughts/comments.. I'll post pics on this thread as the upgrade project progresses. Thanks in advance for all your help!

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I think I've settled on a plan...

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I already have the shelving (x2) from IKEA for the front to hold the equipment...

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In each of the corners will be covered panels to angle off round off the corners and conceal the wiring where the EQ rack used to be. I'll wrap these panels in the same black indoor/outdoor carpet I used on the front wall, and sides of the theater. I've taken a first pass at the frames for the panels...

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Tonight, I took down the speakers (since the new screen will require that space), and the indoor/outdoor carpet I had glued to the wall. I'll need to replace the top section. Here's how it looks after tonight's work! Yuck!

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I'm still trying to decide on a screen build though... Spandex is looking attractive, but the more I read about the different paint options, the more I'm interested. The Behr SS was okay, but it sounds like there are much better options out there now days! Anyway... g'night!

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Scale back your Screen size to 60" x 107" (122" diagonal @ 16 x 9 ) or crowd in 51" x 120" (130" diagonal @ 2.35:1 CIH) with either at 14' throw and you'll realize having the Big Picture at last!

For the really wide 2.35:1 version, don't worry overmuch about having to crowd the Speakers into the Corners.. The sides of the Speakers can be covered in Protostar Telescope Masking so reflections will not be a concern. http://www.protostar.biz/hitack.htm
I like 'em big...and with 1080p resolution you can easily place seating at a 1:1 distance to Screen diagonal size and get totally immersed.

Use a 60" x 120" x 6mm sheet of Sintra or Komatex (Sign Board) to paint on Check the locations below for pricing and availability (...Komatex is identical to Sintra but sometime less expensive...)

Laird Plastics
2718 se raymond st
Portland, OR 97202
Manager:Lee Ramsby
Phone:800-289-0090

Piedmont Plastics
Portland
26211 SW 95th Avenue, Suite 503
Wilsonville, OR 97070
Toll Free: 866-254-6947

With your dedicated room and if you choose a Epson 6010 (Brightest) or Panny 8000 (best Contrast & Lens Memory for 2.35:1 ) ) you can use RS-MaxxMudd "Standard" ...set either PJ on Low Lamp Mode ( & calibrated) and you'll get the absolute best and biggest image.

Spandex is great...and I've helped advocate it's use recently, but ain't no possible way it tops a well painted DIY Screen. It's ideal for use if one needs a great performing Acoustically Transparent Screen. Or a Screen that must exceed the available size such substrates as Sintra can be had in. But that's where the advantages stop.

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MM, you make a great point...
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Spandex is great...and I've helped advocate it's use recently, but ain't no possible way it tops a well painted DIY Screen. It's ideal for use if one needs a great performing Acoustically Transparent Screen. Or a Screen that must exceed the available size such substrates as Sintra can be had in. But that's where the advantages stop.

I was looking for a reason to go one way or the other, and I think this really boils down the differences between the two. If someone is going for the absolute best picture possible (who doesn't want that?), on a limited DIY budget, and doesn't need the acoustically transparent, or the larger screen (I just can't physically fit a larger one), then DIY paint is the way to go.

Of course, there are other things to consider, and my main fears are that a paint project is more risky (blotches, runs, hot spots, etc..), more time consuming (several days to complete), and is just more messy (especially with twin 6 year old boys running around). As an example, here is a quick shot of my guys helping me with the frames for the panels...

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All that being said, I want to be enjoying my screen and know that it's the best possible screen that I could have built myself. I don't want to have regret! "Well, it looks pretty good, but it would have looked better had I..." No thanks! I think I'm up for the challenge.

Once I acquire a 60" x 120" x 6mm sheet of Sintra or Komatex (and have them cut it I assume), how do I mount it? I assume I'll need some sort of frame to put it on? Do I glue it on? Is there a good thread that details the construction of one of these bad boys?

Thanks for all the help guys!

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