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Read most of the posts but still not sure which ones to narrow down my choices.

Looking for a 2D on a 100" screen,

The room is 10 X 14 by 10" ceiling. So about a 12' throw

It is open to some ambient (not windows) daylight one long wall.
The other 3 walls are solid.
Evening/nite almost no light

The screen wall is brand new construction with a very well spackled finished wall spray painted by the builder.
I'm sure with a lite sanding it should be ready to spray (which I know how to do).

Budget about $1,000 +- for a PJ but a bit more if really worth it.

These are the ones I found as possible choices.
Benq w1200 $1200
Viewsonic Pro8200 $900
Optoma hd33 $1300
Mitsubishi hc4000 1100
Panasonic PT-AR100U ?

Not using for gaming just movies & TV.

Hope that's enough info

Would appreciate your input on this.
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I feel your PJ choices narrow down to the Viewsonic & Panny. And being a LCD fan one would think I'd fall into line with the Panny. But not this time.


With your 10' ceiling you can easily make up for the ViewSonic's 22.5" Image Offset, and the lumen output of the Viewsonic & your Screen size will allow you to consider the use of a simple neutral Gray of a 8.0 value.
The latter combined with the 23 fl the Viewsonic will create hitting a 0.8 gain surface will get you enough ambient light performance ability to easily offset the light conditions you describe.

Add to that the V-sonic's 4K -6K lamp Life a 3 Year Warranty and it becomes nothing if not a No Brainer.

From the "Glidden Master Palette" in the paint database at Lowe's

Your Gray:
Color Code .........Color card name
00NN 53/000 . . . . ."Veil"

Base paint to use...... Valspar Ultra Premium Flat Interior Enamel

The above is a simple, straightforward solution. Just do a good job prepping the wall and spraying and you'll be quite satisfied.

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Didn't think it would be that straight forward, thought I would be mixing a bunch of paints, that's great.

If there is another PJ I should consider please let me know, those are the ones I found thru reviews.

Or if I find another on sale I should consider.

Thanks for the advice & quick reply
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PJ brightness, Screen size, and the quality of the contrast specifications dictate what can be used, and what you want to avoid. There are more advanced apps you can use.....some are actually quite easy themselves, but they ALL involve the use of metallic additives. some quite a few...others not nearly so. What must be considered is that with a higher performance DIY screen that has positive Gain characteristics, you can use PJs that have lower lumen (...or use "Low Lamp" all the time...) and lower lumen output usually equates to the PJ having better Contrast.

PJ choice? There are several you did not list. What I need to shoehorn in the best possible choice per dollar spent would be a maximum amount your willing to spend for truly exemplary performance. Most newer PJs all have extended lamp life...and choosing one with a real degree of Contrast can make all the difference. Lens Shift can make installation silly-easy.
A Refurb Epson 8700UB would be a dream machine for you...if you can find one.

Since you focusing on 2D and your room has decent light control, your choices are broad. Just let me know what your max expenditure can be (...consider what you might use the Pj for in the future...if you can get a steal of a deal...and I'll make (...as I'm sure others will also...) some suggestions you can take to the bank, but not have to withdraw all your cash to get. biggrin.gif

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Ok I follow you, I would say my top end would be $1200, the VS8200 can be had for $800 not trying hard to shop.

So If you guys think a few more bucks is worth the investment fine, if the paint gets more complicated, no problem paint is easy for me.

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Then get a new Epson 8350 and use RS-MaxxMudd Standard.

If you can get up offa dat thing a bit more, the Epson 8700Ub is available for $1495.00 Refurbed at : http://www.visualapex.com/home-theater-projectors-refurbished/Epson-Projector-Details.asp?For-Projector-Model=Home-Cinema-8700UB-R

.............and for $1795.00 new
http://www.ebay.com/ctg/Epson-PowerLite-Home-Cinema-8700UB-LCD-Projector-/97467964

It's so much better than anything else on your list it's silly.

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Tks much for your recommendations.
I'll look them over.

As to the paint, am I still using the
Base paint to use...... Valspar Ultra Premium Flat Interior Enamel

Also the RS-MaxxMudd Standard same as RS-MaxxMudd V-2
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Yes......and yes.

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From the "Glidden Master Palette" in the paint database at Lowe's

Your Gray:
Color Code .........Color card name
00NN 53/000 . . . . ."Veil"

Finally getting to do the painting, is this Veil a flat or semi, eggshell or gloss?

I think it would be flat but just wanted to double check

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Finally getting to do the painting, is this Veil a flat or semi, eggshell or gloss?

I think it would be flat but just wanted to double check

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Flat Enamel

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Kirk, painted the screen several months ago finally getting around to buying the equipment.

Since that time you first recommended the VS8200 is there anything new on the market that may fill my needs with the veil painted screen.

A friend mentioned the Epson EH tw2900 as bit better????



Also using that paint what limitations might there be later on if I change out the projector.

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Kirk, painted the screen several months ago finally getting around to buying the equipment.

Since that time you first recommended the VS8200 is there anything new on the market that may fill my needs with the veil painted screen.

A friend mentioned the Epson EH tw2900 as bit better????



Also using that paint what limitations might there be later on if I change out the projector.

tks


I'm a staunch Epson Fan and even with that, under the screen paint dictates you have chosen I'd safely state the View Sonic Pro8200 is the superior choice.

But not if you inst6ead consider the BenQ w1070. THAT would be the best choice between all three....by a wide margin.

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