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I have no doubt the Carl's tape is a good product. I've never used the tape but I've used their screen material and I was pretty happy with it. I just wouldn't be able to use the tape if the biggest width is 4" since I'm using 1x4s as my border - it would be just shy of being able to wrap around the face and sides. I actually used the Protostar Hi-tack roll material when I did my borders. At .50/inch (30" wide), a 120" x 4" border would be pretty close in price (Carl's shows 49.99 for the 4") I don't know how the Protostar tape is, but the roll material was SUPER sticky; once it was on it wasn't coming off!
. Always good to have multiple choices right?
I can see in your case where you needed just that smidgin' extra width. In truth your the exception to the rule, as for many these days it difficult to have them even consider 3.25" x 1/2 Mdf.

I have always tried to refrain people from using 1x4s because the stand off along the edges leading into the screen can cast shadows. Especially from any ambient light in the room. 3/4" height is just too much....1/2" is borderline....Trim / wood that tapers down to a 1/16th edge...or 1/8th at most is ideal. Which is why the Mdf Base Molding works well when wrapped with Velvet. The material effectively hides the millwork edges.

And sometimes you can find 3.25" x 1/2" Primed Pine base that is wholly smooth and tapers / curves down to a 1/16" tall edge. That stuff looks exactly like a custom milled Screen Trim, and it would in fact be ideally suited for applying either ProtoStar or the 4" Carl's.

Anyway...it's all good. The both offer a decent choice.

For years all we had a crappy Felt Tape to turn to, or at very best the Duvetyne Flock Tape....which itself wasn't very good at all. Not really anything but sticky backed Black Felt

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I can see in your case where you needed just that smidgin' extra width. In truth your the exception to the rule, as for many these days it difficult to have them even consider 3.25" x 1/2 Mdf.

I have always tried to refrain people from using 1x4s because the stand off along the edges leading into the screen can cast shadows. Especially from any ambient light in the room. 3/4" height is just too much....1/2" is borderline....Trim / wood that tapers down to a 1/16th edge...or 1/8th at most is ideal. Which is why the Mdf Base Molding works well when wrapped with Velvet. The material effectively hides the millwork edges.

And sometimes you can find 3.25" x 1/2" Primed Pine base that is wholly smooth and tapers / curves down to a 1/16" tall edge. That stuff looks exactly like a custom milled Screen Trim, and it would in fact be ideally suited for applying either ProtoStar or the 4" Carl's.

Anyway...it's all good. The both offer a decent choice.

For years all we had a crappy Felt Tape to turn to, or at very best the Duvetyne Flock Tape....which itself wasn't very good at all. Not really anything but sticky backed Black Felt
You know, I never even considered having a shadow from the thicker border; I'm just going to forget you said that so I'm not looking for it Honestly though, I've never noticed any shadowing if it is there.
That said, if I wasn't limited to my local lumberyard for wood on my build day I would have chosen a tapered trim; it just looks better to me.
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Hi all,

I am considering building a screen for a small condo setup. I have been following Jim Mueller's build and this thread with great interest and have begun working out details for my own.

There are some constraints. First, the screen will sit in front of our everyday plasma and must have the ability to be broken down and stored away when not in use. Second, although I would go the wall hook route similar to Jim and easily patch up the holes when we move, my gf is shooting down the idea. So instead, my screen will be a free standing, collapsible wooden frame with hooks along the inside perimeter.

The thing I am having trouble wrapping my head around is how big the frame needs to be. If I am shooting for a 100" screen, should I cut the milliskin to 49" x 87" and stretch it onto a frame with larger inside dimensions, say, 59" x 97"?

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I've read so many of these threads that my mind is numb with information. But in that reading, I lost track if I saw this answered or not (and the search function isn't so helpful).....
Can anyone tell me the gain on a White over Silver Milliskin screen?
Thanks. (and thanks for all the useful information!!!)
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Frame size is easy. Wrapping your head around a collapsible Frame is the issue.

However, the added size in the inside dimensions is too much....having 4" total (2." all around" is sufficient and a good distance to accommodate 3.25" Trim.

But really, ypur "fold up" plan is a real lesson in conflicting issues.

You'll have to have the ability to install / remove two layers of spandex repeatedly (...and relatively easily...) and still get it all to the correct tauntness.

The Frame must break down / re-assemble repeatedly and remain "True" and stiff.

Get a new GF. That will be a world easier and probably more satisfying in the long run.

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I've read so many of these threads that my mind is numb with information. But in that reading, I lost track if I saw this answered or not (and the search function isn't so helpful).....
Can anyone tell me the gain on a White over Silver Milliskin screen?
Thanks. (and thanks for all the useful information!!!)
Approx. 0.9...but if you use 0.8 when figuring out Throw distance and foot lamberts, you'll be all the more safer by doing so.

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