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Hey everyone, I have the ability to print on sheets and I'm pretty sure I could run a board of Sintra through the printer. Would this work if I printed the correct color onto the sheet? What specific color should I print and would this be better than painting? I think it would since color would be uniform across the board. Is this even viable or am I crazy? I run a large format print shop.
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Been done before, so yes...it will work.

As for the color needed, obviously it needs to be ideally suited for your PJ/Room?viewing needs, and as of yet you haven't provided an insight into those items.

PJ Model?

Screen size?

Throw Distance?

Room Lighting while viewing?

Wall / Ceiling colors and their proximity to the Screen surface?

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Projector: 3M Digital Media System 710. This projector has 1800 bulb life on it. Will be replacing it with an 8350 probably.

Screen Size: 87" diagonal. 87x36"
Throw: 60" About
Room: it is in the basement with fairly controlled lighting. will be very dark most of the time
Walls are white

I apologize for not including this info in the beginning . I received this projector for free and will be replacing with an epson 8350 when it dies. unless you recommend just replacing the bulb?

i can order sintra from my print shop supplier and they will cut to size. is their any specific color/pantone # i can print to that would look great? or would painting it be the way to go? my print supplier would charge me $20 for the sintra and $2.50 per square foot for ink. it would be UV ink.

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So I just realized an 8350 might not be very viable since I only have 10' of viable throw distance. Anyone have another suggestion? my screen only needs to be 85" or slightly larger. The 8350 looks lik eit needs more throw.
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BenQ w1080ST

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That's looks like a good PJ but I don't need 3D. I'd like to sacrifice 3D for a little better PJ is that's possible.

Any idea on what specific color to print on the Sintra? Is printed colored Sintra a good idea even for a screen? Would it look good?
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Not as far as a 1080p Short Throw is concerned.

The w1070 is getting a tremendous following....I see it being chosen as the desired PJ on this Forum so often, it's almost like the Epson 8350 allover again.

But in your instance, your Screen size / Throw distance requirements limit you to that PJ.

Really. And your fortunate as the only other Short Throws out there in WideScreen are just gussied up Presentation PJs of 1280 x 800 resolution. This time last year they would have been your ONLY choice.

All that is left is for you to go the selected route, or change your Throw distance and/or Screen size to accommodate the 8350.

Now as far as the printed color, partly it's going to be a Crap shoot, but you should be able to get close enough that it shouldn't be any real issue. The Density of the printed coating (dpi) will make a difference, as will the opacity of whatever ink is used. A simple color would be a Neutral Gray of a 8.8 / 9.0 shade.

What type of Ink material does the LF printer use? Oil? Acrylic Water based?

I'd say it's worth a shot. Some time ago there was interest in trying to match Silver Fire's color and print it on a Plastic Mirror, but it never went forward.

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DPI shouldn't be a problem. It's UV ink. I think this might actually turn out very well. I'm just having trouble selecting the correct gray to print. Do I want a darker or lighter gray? UV ink will cost me $2.50 a square foot from my supplier so it's on the expensive side as far as ink goes.
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Here's an example what grays to use along the CMYK color pallete. Would you suggest in the middle at K:50?
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More than sufficient. Maintain a Flat sheen.

I'm sure many will look to your eventual end results with great interest.

BTW, How large a material can your Printer accept?

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I could print on an entire sheet of Sintra if I needed. I can go up to 60" wide and whatever long.

I plan on ordering this by the end of the week and should receive it sometime next week. I'll post results.
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I ran into a slight setback. My supplier only carriers the 3mm Sintra. He said he could double back two sheets together and sand them down into one... Would that work? I've only been lurking here a little bit but I thought 3mm was a no-no. Would putting two sheets together and sanding them to one work?

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One Member (Kirnak) has perfected a hanging frame that allows for the 3mm to hang straight, and has promised to publish a Thread on the build.

Otherwise, the main issue with adhering it to anything is that it;s thinness can transmit under-surface irregularities, especially unevenly applied adhesives.

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