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michalum's Avatar michalum 11:34 AM 11-12-2013
Hi all, I haven't posted much around here, but have read alot of threads on here over the years and have learned plenty. Thanks for all the help.

I was trying to find a comparison of difference between moleskin and milliskin spandex and couldn't find any closeup photos comparing the textures. My apologies if there are some already, but I took a couple of photos of the following. Hope this helps those looking to decide on which fabric to use.

All of these are from Spandexworld
Moleskin Matte Silver - 6409
Moleskin Matte White - 977
Milliskin Matte Silver - 10921
Milliskin Matte White - 795
Milliskin Shiny Silver - 1691

The moleskin is definitely a heavier material, but the milliskin has a finer weave.

Based on the samples, my plan for my screen is to do a moleskin matte silver backing with a milliskin matte white cover.

All samples in one


Close up of the Milliskin


Comparison of Moleskin to Milliskin


Comparison of the Silvers


Milliskin White of Milliskin Silver (not stretched)


ahajr143's Avatar ahajr143 12:31 PM 11-12-2013
That is the combination that I have, milliskin white over moleskin silver along with an Epson 8100. I think you will like the results and it can't get much easier to make.
Mrke1's Avatar Mrke1 09:00 AM 11-20-2013
I was looking at this combination. Does the moleskin kill AT?
ahajr143's Avatar ahajr143 10:44 AM 11-20-2013
The moleskin is denser than the milliskin and therefore is not quite as transparent to sound as the milliskin. If you search Tuxedovic's threads you will find some testing that I believe he did with the moleskin and sound attenuation.
michalum's Avatar michalum 12:05 PM 11-20-2013
I got the spandex in the mail on Monday but unfortunately the order was incorrect and instead of white i received black, lol. but i was able to build everything else and put the silver moleskin on and I did a test of putting the center channel behind and below the screen and could not tell a difference. the center channel is about 4 inches away from the spandex.


michalum's Avatar michalum 12:17 PM 11-20-2013
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Originally Posted by ahajr143 View Post

The moleskin is denser than the milliskin and therefore is not quite as transparent to sound as the milliskin. If you search Tuxedovic's threads you will find some testing that I believe he did with the moleskin and sound attenuation.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1454505/acoustic-transparency-of-spandex-the-truth

i didn't read through all the posts, but looking at how the speakers where tested with putting the fabric right over the speaker i think would be different than giving it some space and also stretching the fabric.
MississippiMan's Avatar MississippiMan 02:54 AM 11-21-2013
Increased distance always affects Frequency response and "Combing" issues. Stretching to open the weave isn't the answer to such, as there are practical limits as to how much you can / should stretch Spandex before you start to affect the appearance of the surface....and it's both the acoustical properties AND the appearance of the surface combined that make Spandex as ideally suited to the purpose at hand.

At least you'd know that Spandex will not affect acoustic performance any more than a Mfg AT material, and given it's measured abilities, it's bound to actually be an improvement, since the lack of density of Spandex will tend to "not" restrict or reduce SPLs as much as a much denser Perforated or Weaved Mfg AT material. Place your Speakers as close as possible, but as far away as necessary.
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