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Found a refurbished Graco 1900 unit from website called Sprayplace.com for $39.00. Here's the link

http://www.sprayplace.com/specialty/hvlp-sprayers/spraystaion-1900-factory-reconditioned.html

I ordered one today. Only down side is shipping cost. For basic shipping of 2-5 day(10 days by truck. Whatever that means) it's $10. But despite that, for $50, it seemed like to good of a deal to pass on. Don't know how many units they have. I thought this would be a better deal then buying the Wagner Control spray, for $45, from the Gleem website since the Wagner units seem to come with slandered 2.0 needle tips then the original 1.5 needle tip they first had when the gun came out. You can use the diff needle tips even on the 1900 unit. Also, I called Graco and you can use this turbine with the gun that comes with the 2900 and 3900 unit which will work for me since I have that gun. Now, I could be wrong on Wagner needle tip size and if I am I'm sure MississippiMan will let me know, lol biggrin.gifbiggrin.gif . Also, this is $15 cheaper then the 2900 units on amazon.
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So, I got the graco 1900 in the mail today. Far quicker then i expected it. Nice little unit. It was deff a used unit that someone returned and just resold as a refurbished unit. I like the size of it and how you can just wear it over your shoulder. Nice to have close to you and don't have to worry as much of the hose getting in your way like the 2900 or 3900 unit since its a shorter hose and that it's attached in your unit, which is held on by your shoulder strap.I prefer dealing with an extension cord then a long hose. Sam, the tech guy from Graco, was correct on the gun from the 2900 and 3900 being compatible with the 1900 unit hose. The hose is more narrow then the hose that comes with the above units but has the extra width at the end to stick into the 2900 and 3900 gun.
Now, I just need to figure out how much more water has to be added to the paint mixes when using the 1900 unit. .
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Oh Lord.

Why not try it first with the original listed amount, and if thinning at all, do it in 2 oz increments only.

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I will try with the initial amounts. The reason I made the comment about difference in amount of water needed is because of the BIG diff in viscosity rating compared to their big brothers the 2900 and 3900. The viscosity rating (rating according to Graco if you want to spray paint through their system) for the 2900 is 160 seconds. The viscosity rating for the 3900 is 180 seconds(would seem to be a 15% increase in power from the 2900 to 3900). The viscosity rating of the 1900 unit is only 60 seconds. Sounds closer to the viscosity rating of the older Wagner control spray. 180 seconds( the Graco 3900 rating) is a 200% increase over the 1900( 60 seconds rating). The graco 1900 unit advertised it self more as a unit to spray stains and poly through.
I also checked the Graco site and they do sell smaller needle tip sizes for the 1900 unit in a 1.5mm and 1.0mm tip just like for the 2900 and 3900 unit but be aware that the needle tip designs are different. In other words, the 1.5 mm tip for the 1900 won't fit into the gun that comes with the 2900 and 3900. But, as stated before, you can use the gun from the 2900 and 3900 unit with the 1900 unit.

1900 unit 1.5 needle tip:

http://store.spray-station.com/collections/hv1900-accessories/products/graco-spray-station-1900-1-5mm-06-needle-kit

2900 and 3900 1.5 needle tip:

http://store.spray-station.com/collections/hv2900-3900-accessories/products/graco-spray-station-2900-3900-1-5mm-06-needle-kit
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the tech from Graco got back to me on the specs for the Graco 1900. He said the airflow specs is as follows:

1900 produces 32 cfm @ 2 psi...where does that put it in terms of airflow compared to the older wagner control, wagner DD and the graco 2900???
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the tech from Graco got back to me on the specs for the Graco 1900. He said the airflow specs is as follows:

1900 produces 32 cfm @ 2 psi...where does that put it in terms of airflow compared to the older wagner control, wagner DD and the graco 2900???

Why didn't you ask him about the comparative difference between the 1900 and 2900?

The Wagner DD is more powerful than the 1900, and about equal to the 2900/3900 Graco s

The original Wagner CS falls between the 1900 and the 2900.


BTW...why didn't you post a link fir the 1.0 mm 1900 needle. That is the one most desired.

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Why didn't you ask him about the comparative difference between the 1900 and 2900?

The Wagner DD is more powerful than the 1900, and about equal to the 2900/3900 Graco s

The original Wagner CS falls between the 1900 and the 2900.


BTW...why didn't you post a link fir the 1.0 mm 1900 needle. That is the one most desired.

He actually sent the specs for the 2900 and 3900 as well. Here a copy and pasted of his email:



Adaam,



The 1900 produces 32 cfm @ 2 psi

The 2900/3900 produces 39 cfm @ 3 psi



Sorry about the delay getting back to you, I’m all over the country with The Woodworking Shows.

Sam"

here's a link to 1900 spraystation 1.0 needle tip to buy straight from the Graco Spraystation website:

http://store.spray-station.com/collections/hv1900-accessories/products/graco-spray-station-1900-1-0mm-04-needle-kit
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