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MississippiMan's Avatar MississippiMan 02:08 PM 12-30-2006
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Thanks for the heads-up gentlemen. Just what I was looking for in my new theater. Save some for me. CMRA

And quite the step up from "No Boarder At All." , eh? What I think is telling is that your referring to it as a "new theater". Does this mean your going to mount your Sharp instead of letting it reside on your end table? Will there be "sound"?

Anyway, this Black Velvet is excellent stuff. Classy appearance and it has that "Oooooo" feeling to the touch.

CMRA's Avatar CMRA 06:17 PM 12-30-2006
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And quite the step up from "No Boarder At All." , eh? What I think is telling is that your referring to it as a "new theater". Does this mean your going to mount your Sharp instead of letting it reside on your end table? Will there be "sound"?

Anyway, this Black Velvet is excellent stuff. Classy appearance and it has that "Oooooo" feeling to the touch.

Borders??? HA. Masking amigo. And light traps for my white walls and ceilings.

BTW, did you ever get that hearing aid?
MississippiMan's Avatar MississippiMan 10:05 AM 12-31-2006
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BTW, did you ever get that hearing aid?

Eh? What was that?

Selective hearing, thant's my game.
jjw350z's Avatar jjw350z 08:33 PM 01-01-2007
Got it here today ... looks like I ordered a bit extra

Looks great! Very "dead" in color but it will definitely look nice on the frame.

Thanks again to all
Jim
pjohnston007's Avatar pjohnston007 08:39 AM 01-07-2007
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Mine shipped today! I'll have pics hopefully of everything next week



Anyone have pictures they can post of the Triple Velvet from Denver Fabrics?

Thanks,

pj
basementjack2's Avatar basementjack2 10:11 PM 01-07-2007
What are you guys using as a screen material to go with this great velvet?
How about framing - (I realize there's probably a million posts on this, but since this group seems to know what you're doing in the value department, I thought I'd start here.)
Highside's Avatar Highside 02:56 PM 01-09-2007
I just found another place out of CA that sells the triple velvet for $5.99/yd. All the specs look to be the same as the Denverfabrics stuff. Not sure of the manufacturer though.

Triple velvet

I just ordered 3 yds. We'll see how good it is when it shows up.

Rob
mellowman's Avatar mellowman 06:46 AM 01-27-2007
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I just found another place out of CA that sells the triple velvet for $5.99/yd. All the specs look to be the same as the Denverfabrics stuff. Not sure of the manufacturer though.

Triple velvet

I just ordered 3 yds. We'll see how good it is when it shows up.

Rob

So what is any good? Seems to have the same mix 65/35 as Fidelio/Madonna.
MississippiMan's Avatar MississippiMan 08:08 AM 01-27-2007
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So what is any good? Seems to have the same mix 65/35 as Fidelio/Madonna.

And it does.

Triple Velvet (Youngdoo) has the same look and feel as Madonna. Both are "Eagle" brands.

It's pile is deeper than Micro Velvet (....also "Eagle") but you want to stay away from Micro because it usually costs more in a retail store, and because it's pile is so short, it "parts' when wrapped around a 90 degree edge.

I tried to order 12 yards yesterday but Denver was all out of stock on the "Triple" in Black. That's what I get I guess for spreading the word.

Same thing happened with Parkland Plastic. Wouldn't it be a shame if Denver raised their prices and started calling it "Screen Trim Velvet".
peterofmd's Avatar peterofmd 10:27 AM 01-29-2007
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I just found another place out of CA that sells the triple velvet for $5.99/yd. All the specs look to be the same as the Denverfabrics stuff. Not sure of the manufacturer though.

Triple velvet

I just ordered 3 yds. We'll see how good it is when it shows up.

Rob

Rob,

How did it look? Any comments?
MississippiMan's Avatar MississippiMan 11:42 AM 01-29-2007
..........so I gave up on Denver fabrics for this go-round. Ordered up 6 yards of the Triple Velvet @ $5.50 yd. http://www.syfabrics.com/mojocart/di...cfm?prod_id=89

That's coming along at a better price anyway, I just hope they do not send it the "Slow Boat to China" route, since there was no alternative shipping methods offered.

(PS. I went back and checked to find that this Company chooses either USPS or FedEx Ground at their discretion. )
dwhisent's Avatar dwhisent 12:20 PM 01-29-2007
I ordered some from syfabrics myself, based on the earlier post. It came fedex, in about a week from the time I placed the order. Unfortunately, I'm pretty much a newbie on this stuff, and I can't give you a comparison to other materials, or really say how good it is. All I can say is it's soft and black. I look forward to hearing your opinion of it when you get it.

I handed mine to my wife and asked her to make me some curtains to go above and on either side of my painted screen. So far, it's still sitting in the box...
peterofmd's Avatar peterofmd 12:27 PM 01-29-2007
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..........so I gave up on Denver fabrics for this go-round. Ordered up 6 yards of the Triple Velvet @ $5.50 yd. http://www.syfabrics.com/mojocart/di...cfm?prod_id=89

MM,

Do you think 3 yards will be enough for a 56" X 100" screen? Assuming 44" width.
MississippiMan's Avatar MississippiMan 12:50 PM 01-29-2007
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MM,

Do you think 3 yards will be enough for a 56" X 100" screen? Assuming 44" width.

Oh yeah.

If your doing Mitered corners using 3" wide trim, your going to rip* the velvet lengthwise into four 5- 1/2' wide strips. At 3 yds =9 feet (108") and with the screen area being 100" across, the Wood Trim pieces will be/should be cut to a 106" length. That will leave an excess (....if you can call it that....) of 1 inch at each protruding mitered end. Reduce your screens' width by 2 inches and you'll have absolutely no concerns.

The alternative to Mitering (Butt Edges) can make that amount of velvet even more certain to work by your cutting the long pieces to 100" and the short pieces to 62" But Miter if you can because it presents a much more rarified appearance.

All "Rips" must be along the "length" of the fabric, and you have to accept that you'll have some 2'-3' long scraps when doing the shorter pieces.

*Ripping involves making a 2" deep cut at your measured point, then pulling the fabric in opposite directions. Having another's help in doing this is advantageous when doing the longish pieces to avoid having the velvet drag on the ground. Also, once you start ripping, don't stop....keep pulling by walking away from each other. Lastly, do this sort of thing somewhere that you can easily sweep up the fuzzies that will rain down when the velvet separates. Trim away any stray strings (...you WILL get 'em....) and your all set.

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I handed mine to my wife and asked her to make me some curtains to go above and on either side of my painted screen. So far, it's still sitting in the box...

Go to:
http://www.Wives_toGo.com ...for a replacement. Free shipping incl.
jimwhite's Avatar jimwhite 01:16 PM 01-29-2007
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Go to:
http://www.Wives_toGo.com ...for a replacement. Free shipping incl.

I wonder how many clicks that got
MississippiMan's Avatar MississippiMan 04:11 PM 01-29-2007
I made a call to syfabrics to inquire about using my FedEx account, and received a call back shortly stating that although they could not oblige that request, my order was filled and had just shipped out via FedEx Ground. That's same day service.

Hmmmmmmm........., might be worth considering from here on out.
chrisnowak's Avatar chrisnowak 07:03 PM 01-29-2007
I ordered mine from SyFabrics last week and got it in 2 days (I live in Kentucky).

It works great! Short nap, absorbs all the light, great for spillover. It seemed to pull apart pretty easy, but that may be normal considering I've never worked with velvet before. Hope that helps.

PS first time poster so sorry I can't link to the images. I'll come back and edit once I make my 5 posts.
chrisnowak's Avatar chrisnowak 07:04 PM 01-29-2007
Sorry about reply spam, it's so I can post the images.
chrisnowak's Avatar chrisnowak 07:07 PM 01-29-2007
This thing is a menace
chrisnowak's Avatar chrisnowak 07:07 PM 01-29-2007
Again, sorry
chrisnowak's Avatar chrisnowak 07:07 PM 01-29-2007
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chrisnowak's Avatar chrisnowak 07:09 PM 01-29-2007
Here are some pics of the fabric:




And here's one on the wall:


peterofmd's Avatar peterofmd 08:26 PM 01-29-2007
Thanks MM for your advice.

Thanks Chris for your photos.

I am ordering now.

BTW - wonder if this is a good sound absorbing material. I noticed in theaters they use pleated velvet materail on the walls.
frankie_v's Avatar frankie_v 10:39 PM 01-29-2007
Thanks for the info about Syfabrics.com . Their Ebay route works pretty quickly instead of doing the forms if you're an Ebay member.

Here in Portland it's hard to find velvet and if you do it's over $20 a yard. And by that point the DIY becomes a little less special.
MississippiMan's Avatar MississippiMan 08:52 AM 01-30-2007
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Originally Posted by peterofmd View Post

Thanks MM for your advice.

Thanks Chris for your photos.

I am ordering now.

BTW - wonder if this is a good sound absorbing material. I noticed in theaters they use pleated velvet materail on the walls.

Yes, but they also have thick sound absorbing material overlaying the walls underneath. Any curtain material doing it all by itself would have to be either quite thick, or contain a lining that is thick. Certainly any fabric placed over a wall will help.....but the thicker'er the better'er.
wisemaj's Avatar wisemaj 09:16 AM 01-30-2007
I too am considering a black velvet border and noticed that the velvet in the pictures posted by chris seems to be somewhat shiny. Is this simply due to the camera flash or is this velvet perhaps not as absorbent as Fidelio or Youngdo?
chrisnowak's Avatar chrisnowak 09:25 AM 01-30-2007
It's the flash. It's done a bang-up job of absorbing all the spillage. I have about an inch of spillage over two of the sides.

I don't have a tripod so all my pictures are blurry, but here are a few.

100% light

50% light

No ambient


Again, sorry about the blurriness. But it makes the spillage just disappear. In case you've given up, the spillage is on the top and left side
wisemaj's Avatar wisemaj 09:58 AM 01-30-2007
Thanks for the reply, Chris.

Normally I wouldn't waste everyone's time just to say thanks, but I too am trying to get to that 5th post for future photo links.
MississippiMan's Avatar MississippiMan 10:10 AM 01-30-2007
chrisnowack is right.

The velvet's nap absorbs far more light than it reflects. That's noted by the degree and type of reflection you can see under such a intense flash. It looks like a miyrid of tiny specks of light, not a overall sheen. And see how much darker the areas are just below the "high points' that are getting the most direct illumination. Those images were also taken at very close range, and although I cannot be exact, you could consider the "lumens" being delivered by the Flash are well in excess of that you'd get from any other light source excepting "Ol Sol" shining directly on the velvet.

So you can go the "Black Velvet" route with the assurance that nothing works better.


Or feels better when a visitor deigns to reach out and cop a feel.

Period. There can be / is only "One". Even the industry standard Flat Black, semi-rough Anodized Aluminum Frames produced by Mfg Screen makers fall way below it's performance. It says a lot that some Screen Mfg. offer a "Deluxe" frame that has a Black Velvet wrapping.

Yes, there are lots of alternatives....some as simple and as low-end as Flat Black paint. Or Black Felt. (...lots of Lint to see on that stuff....)

But Plush Black Velvet is by far the best, and at under $6.00 a yard, people should "Flock" to the stuff.
wisemaj's Avatar wisemaj 10:20 AM 01-30-2007
Thanks, MM.
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