Originally Posted by 1canuck2
Thanks for the input guys. I see I may have open some old war wounds... This was not my intention. It also unfortunately serves to add to my confusion, since there's clearly (at least) two camps here with wildly different opinions.
Not your fault, nor is it a bad thing to be overly anxious about choosing something for a project that is so "visually" important, and whose overall quality and end results will most definately depend upon one's own involvement and skills, not to mention wallet.
Two Camps? Guess again ! More like a half dozen. What says a lot is how some Camps need to pack up and change locations because the Tent they pitch seems to flood when the weather is not perfect.
Or they have to go looking around for a better Tent, or continuiosly expand the choices of Tents that can accomodate more Happy Campers, because the one they have currently doesn't serve the needs of the many various Campers.
That's all a bit oblique, I know. But the truth is this;
If you spend a bit more, and go to a bit more effort, you can have an application that can serve you in good stead across several different fronts, and do so with above average results in each category. Although you might not need the all offerings independently, together they amount to a Screen that comes as close as one can to being all things at once.
Much is often said about how there is no single Screen application that can serve the needs of all People, but in truth, a well rounded application, one that by itself has done so for a great many different individuals for so long , and continues to do so without drastically re-inventing itself shows that such an application can indeed come close to that ideal.
This seems to irritate a few people, that such a galling statement can and is made. Nonetheless it sometimes does need to be stated. DIY Screens is about experimentation and bringing forth new...or improved ideas and applications to the Forum Membership. That some can, and have done so to a greater extent than others is only natural. That some must defend their own work & efforts...also natural. But that some feel the need to discount one over another to the point of trying to exclude one choice over another is not so much natural as it is human nature. Only some revert to the Nethanderal level when doing so.
I'm not excluded from donning a Bear Skin jacket myself every so often...so I cannot chuck a Rock in any real direction as much as scatter them about when I see the need to do so.
So don't fret. We Members who have worked hard to present our efforts to others are always going to differ on select points of order and what we think is important. That's natural, because if every application was the same.....how boring that would be?
I advocate Silver Fire because I know it is something very special, and well worth the effort, and many who have followed suit can attest to that.
I don't discount more simpler applications, only state from experience that they do in fact come up short in one manner or another simply by virtue of their not being so broadly based in performance criteria as to be able to effectively handle a wider range of viewing situation. Consider Silver Fire as being a SUV-like Screen application, only it's not a Ford Explorer, but rather a cross between the original Humvee, a Range Rover, with a Bently tossed in for good measure. The Wagner is your Trusty Mechanic that makes it Purr, and the PJ is your Fuel. In the end, the Gas you put into the equation will dictate how fast and far you go. The Epson 6500 UB is most definately High Test Aviation fuel.
My criteria for something that is:
2. A step up from simple Behr Silverscreen
3. Not overly expensive/complicated
Is there something "simple" that can be done with only a couple of extra (inexpensive) additives to a standard can of paint that will give me a step up from a Behr Silverscreen?
If you want that sort of thing using immediately available ingrediants, go for MMud-SE or the next up from that, RS-MaxMudd. Rolled, the MMud-SE is perfectly able to give the 6500 a pallet on which to show both it's muscle and finesse, and because it uses less Silver Metallic than the other offerings, your all the more assured of getting a screen surface that is invisible....that is does not offer up any granularity. Ditto with RS-MaxxxMudd, and it rolls well too, but from 2' to 3' you will see a little Screen composition.
If your lucky, and you can find Auto Air Aluminum Fine locally, (...most must order it...and many must wait a bit accordingly for it to arrive....) then Black Widow can also be considered.But it has a reputation of having more "specularity" (...you can sometimes see the Aluminum content from a normal veiwing distance), and White Crush, and if you reduce the Aluminum content to offset that, you must also alter the Base to compensate accordingly.
The Scorpion mix might also be very satisfactory, as it fairly easy to assemble, but it was created to be a much lighter mix, and therefore won't provide as much Ambient light performance as it will Dark room viewability without crushing whites at all.
Really...and with your given situation and desire to make something up that is above par and do so with some degree of extra effort, MMud-SE using the following would seem best.;
Valspar Flat Interior Enamel (White)
Delta Silver Metallic
Minwax Water Based Poly
Thin with 20% Filtered Water to existing mix volume
....and have a little bottle of Folk Art Champagne Metallic Gold on hand to correct any visual push toward Blue. Most likjely there will be none, but adding 2 onces of FACMG will do nothing to hurt, but rather assure that Flesh tomes remain "Fleshy" and Reds do not in any way have a shift to the Violet range.
To that effect is why some advocate simpler Neutral mixes. Rs-MaxxMudd is very neutral, as is MMud-SE, with the former having a gain of over 1.2, but depending upon the Metallic Content and the sensitivity of one's vision and the PJ itself, a few do/have stated a slight oush into blue on a very few aspects can be seen if one concentrates on noticing such.
I may bust this out to a new thread anyway, since I am not so much debating Silver Fire as I am debating which DIY paint to pick and I think SF is beyond my budget/ability to purchase locally.
Good luck...and no matter what application you choose, authoring a new thread to illustrate your efforts for others to benifit is exactly what DIY is, and should be all about.