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post #1 of 32 Old 01-19-2007, 03:14 PM - Thread Starter
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I was at Lowe's today shopping around and ran across a 4x8 sheet of Aquatile tileboard.

http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?actio...605&lpage=none

Could it be useable as a screen? It seems like there is some reflectivity to it, but will need a closer look. Input anyone?

edit: I searched a found a couple month old thread on this, anyone care to update with any new info?

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post #2 of 32 Old 01-19-2007, 03:18 PM
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Cheap ($9) but waaaaaay too glossy... too much glare... completely unusable unless you paint it.
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thats what i figured and i really dont want to paint it... now to see if my local hardware stores carries parkland stuff...

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I use it to paint on... no problems. I look for sheets with slight damage which I can still cut down to desired size. Lowe's knocks them down to $5 with a little damage.
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ok, well I am sure that this is posted somewhere, but whats the paint formula for a screen in a light controlled room?

good to know abou the lowes discount!

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Yea, i just put my screen together today using it. Really great stuff ot use IF you paint it.

If not it is way too glossy, i cant paint mine till Sunday and im using it anyway till then but you can easily easily see the reflection from the projector on the screen (very distracting).

I have seen many people use this but they paint it, otherwise it is like Clarence said - way too glossy
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Yea, i just put my screen together today using it. Really great stuff ot use IF you paint it.

If not it is way too glossy, i cant paint mine till Sunday and im using it anyway till then but you can easily easily see the reflection from the projector on the screen (very distracting).

I have seen many people use this but they paint it, otherwise it is like Clarence said - way too glossy

What paint are you using?

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I use it to paint on... no problems. I look for sheets with slight damage which I can still cut down to desired size. Lowe's knocks them down to $5 with a little damage.

Can Lowe's cut it or what did you use to cut yours?

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Lowes and HD both will cut it for you for free (Only 2 cuts).

The Paint im going to use is Sherwin Williams "Grey Screen"
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Lowes and HD both will cut it for you for free (Only 2 cuts).

The Paint im going to use is Sherwin Williams "Grey Screen"

If you dont mind me asking, why did you choose that color? I have a light controlled room and want to be sure I would pick the right shade. Kinda new at all this DIY Home Theater stuff. Thanks for all your help!

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If you have no or little ambient light, white might be your best bet. If your PJ doest have the greatest CR (or if you have a little AL), you might want to consider a light gray. Read this thread for more details:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=741080
There's a lot of good info regarding gray paints in there.

Good luck.
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The room i have my PJ in is my bedroom, and i can have it dark during the day if i want but i would rather have a little ambient light, and i have the HD70 Projector so it needs a little help with contrast which is why i went for a light grey instead of white.

The Sherwin Williams Grey Screen is very close to neutral gray which means it will add the contrast without causing discoloration to some colors
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I'm using tileboard from Home Depot as a temporary cheap screen for testing purposes right now. Like previously stated, it's way too glossy. The light just reflects right off it. Especially annoying when you have a crt and you can see the red, green, and blue guns on the screen.
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Thats what painting is for :P
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I'm using tileboard from Home Depot as a temporary cheap screen for testing purposes right now. Like previously stated, it's way too glossy. The light just reflects right off it. Especially annoying when you have a crt and you can see the red, green, and blue guns on the screen.

If you have a CRT projector you really should take a look at Designer White...

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The room i have my PJ in is my bedroom, and i can have it dark during the day if i want but i would rather have a little ambient light, and i have the HD70 Projector so it needs a little help with contrast which is why i went for a light grey instead of white.

The Sherwin Williams Grey Screen is very close to neutral gray which means it will add the contrast without causing discoloration to some colors

I am going to get the exact same projector. Sounds like a good thing to try at least. If it doesn't work, I'm not out that much $

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Just an update on the tileboard - Put 2 base primer coats on it and they are drying currently, but the glare has been COMPLETLY removed so thats a good thing.

Tomorrow i will put on two coats of True-Value "Winter Frost" aka Winter Mountain

And then maybe a bit later i will put on some flat poly.
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Note to self -- Dont wear a nice black work shirt when using white paint
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Note to self -- Dont wear a nice black work shirt when using white paint

ROTFLMAO

when doing something like painting with a roller (Indoors) I often strip down to just the jockey shorts....


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Oh well, ruined one shirt but the screen sure turned out nice
All the glare is gone and i found out the Winter Frost isnt the same as Winter mountain. Its alot lighter, but it gave me quite a bit more contrast with heavy ambient light.

Also when painted the glare was completely removed, so all in all the tileboard seemed to work out well..
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ROTFLMAO

when doing something like painting with a roller (Indoors) I often strip down to just the jockey shorts....


wow, i could have done without knowing that.

so what color would someone recommend in a room with very very little or no ambient light at all for this tileboard solution? just a plain white or something else?

Osi - what type of roller did you use on the board to get a good smooth finish?

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Oh well, ruined one shirt but the screen sure turned out nice
All the glare is gone and i found out the Winter Frost isnt the same as Winter mountain. Its alot lighter, but it gave me quite a bit more contrast with heavy ambient light.

Also when painted the glare was completely removed, so all in all the tileboard seemed to work out well..

Another question, how are you mounting it to the wall? Are you building a frame or just mounting it up?

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used a White NAP Foam roller, worked great for smooth finish.

I made a frame out of 1x3s for it which is covered with black cloth.

As for the paint in a room with little to no ambient light - white will work well, but the stuff i got "Winter frost" is lighter than "Winter Mountain" and it darkens it just a bit which helps in ambient light - but it doesnt make it so dark that colors are faded
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saw this board today in Lowes. Dirt cheap. Anyone try black widowing this yet? I'm gonna give it a shot
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I used it. It warped.

I painted it with Kilz and hung it up, very cheap and effective. After a few months it started to bow. If you leave the back untreated, it is going to absorb moisture.
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Buy 2 sheets, and use one cut up into 8" wide strips that are underlay-ed(glued) around the edges to reinforce them.

As for the White Gloss, it can be your best friend. be it BW or SF, or even a stock neutral Gray, when the right amount is covering that Gloss, (enough to impart a even Gray hue....but "JUST" enough!) absorbed light that has been attenuated through absorption will reflect back to infuse the initial surface reflection with a significant boost across ALL the spectrum, from whites / off whites to Grays, to light hued to deep dark colors. It's a balance you seek, and if balanced, it's all good.

This sort of "White Fusion" is essentially "First Surface" because the Gloss White layer is the surface the Top Coat over lays. The reflection interaction between a painted Top Coat and the Gloss Underlayment takes place at the Micron-level as a transfer of energy from one surface to another (Top Coat to Gloss Coat) and that results in a Radiant Reflective response (Gloss Coat to Top Coat) that reintroduces the same light, only attenuated to whatever degree the combination of absorption/reflection provides.

As long as the reaction is not excessive due to too much reflection (...as in too thin a Top coat) or completely muted altogether (...as in too thick a Top Coat) the end result will alway mean a marked improvement.

Whats to be considered "Glossy"?

This is.



...and this.




But when you paint it correctly, it becomes this......



And then you get to see this sort of thing..........



So wish upon a Star..........or several hundred.


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that is beautiful
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Thank you. Personally I prefere simplistic designs that are attractive in their understatement.
And they are less expensive.....

Here's the opposite end of the equation......

Lights full on.....see the RS-HD100?



Lights at 50% Great mood lighting, and really great if the image doesn't suffer. Hey! Where did the PJ go?



A view from outside the Door.....



...and the perfunctory Leeloo Close-up



Here's a better view of the heavens......




..and whaddy ya know....? It even looks good in sideways Ambient Light.



...now how'd that happen?

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wow, that's really sick. I'm a bit worried about the moisture absorption as the poster above pointed out.
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You shouldn't be, as long as you don't just free-hang a thin sheet all by itself.

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