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I wonder why Universal have not mentioned anything about this disc offering 5.1 channel audio on their web site: Rush - A Farewell To Kings. They really are bloody hopeless!
Well would you believe it... Universal have just updated the 'channel' information on their web site. Where's my complementary disc?

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I think they SHOULD offer a totaly 100% analog copy of this album guys!!!!

I WOULD GET IT STRAIGHT AWAY!!!!!!! (Unless the original master is not out there in 100% analogue)
I'm pretty sure there is all analog master of the original recording out there, but I doubt a label like Universal would do a project that won't involve any digital step to bring this to the market.

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Oh BTW who's doing the 5.1 remixes on these?

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I'm pretty sure there is all analog master of the original recording out there, but I doubt a label like Universal would do a project that won't involve any digital step to bring this to the market.
 
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Got the 'A Farewell to Kings' bluray today. It's a great smooth surround mix. At least that's my take on the DD 5.1 tracks. The level/amount of surround is somewhere between Moving Pictures (some think it could be more enveloping) and 2112 which has more envelopment as well as effects that lend to surround application.
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Oh BTW who's doing the 5.1 remixes on these?
I wonder if Gaugster has looked/found anything within the sleeve notes?

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Oh BTW who's doing the 5.1 remixes on these?
I think I can help out.

2112 DVD-A 5.1 mixed by Richard Chycki at Mixland, Ontario, Mastered by Andy VanDette at Materdisk, NY. Supervised by Jeff Fura and Andy Curran
MP DVD-A mixed by Richard Chycki at Mixland, Ontario, Mastered by Andy VanDette at Materdisk, NY. Supervised by Jeff Fura and Pegi Cecconi
FWTK BluRay mixed by Richard Chycki at Mixland, Ontario, Mastered by Andy VanDette at Materdisk, NY. Supervised by Jeff Fura

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^^^^ Thanks, mine should be here tomorrow.

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Got my copy of "A Farewell To Kings" BD. I did listen to it once and I must say I'm not too crazy about the mix. It's kind of uneven. On Xanadu the vocals are buried, yet on Closer to the Heart it's in your face. Also the title track has a horrible tape hiss at the beginning, neither the 2ch track or the CD copy I have have this problem. Clearly the MCH track used a different take or source. Also they used a bit too much echo on the guitars IMO to create a large artificial "hall" effect. Also the Dolby THD track is about 5db louder than the DTS HD MA one, clearly the dialnorm value is different, once they matched there is no difference among them, nor it should be.
I also sampled the 2ch HR track and compared it to my CD, and I can't tell any difference however this was really just a quick comparison. Using my headphones usually gives me a better chance to hear any differences and I haven't done it yet. Be back later....
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FWTK BluRay mixed by Richard Chycki at Mixland, Ontario, Mastered by Andy VanDette at Materdisk, NY. Supervised by Jeff Fura
The same guys are mentioned on the 'Sector 2' DVD-A release of A Farewell To Kings. So, baring some screw-up in the audio encoding process, the DVD-A and the Blu-ray HFPA disc's should sound identical...

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The same guys are mentioned on the 'Sector 2' DVD-A release of A Farewell To Kings. So, baring some screw-up in the audio encoding process, the DVD-A and the Blu-ray HFPA disc's should sound identical...
So did people complained about the tape hiss at the beginning of the title track on the DVD-A too? It wouldn't bother me if it was historically there on all versions, but it's only on the MCH tracks.

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So did people complained about the tape hiss at the beginning of the title track on the DVD-A too? It wouldn't bother me if it was historically there on all versions, but it's only on the MCH tracks.
The hiss at the beginning of track "01 - A Farewell To Kings" is most certainly there on the multi-channel DVD-A. It's actually also audible on the original vinyl album and PolyGram CD. But less so...

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The hiss at the beginning of track "01 - A Farewell To Kings" is most certainly there on the multi-channel DVD-A. It's actually also audible on the original vinyl album and PolyGram CD. But less so...
It's barely there on my 'Rush remaster series" CD from Mercury, and the same on this BD's stereo track. The MCH tracks also several dbs louder though especially the Dolby THD.

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The hiss at the beginning of track "01 - A Farewell To Kings" is most certainly there on the multi-channel DVD-A. It's actually also audible on the original vinyl album and PolyGram CD. But less so...
 
I have a first pressing of it and there is NO HISS thankfully @ the start of song #1 (side 1) and the song XANADU sounds good and CLOSER TO THE HEART sounds excellent also
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LOL I clicked on this and tells me I bought this already in last December! I guess I preordered it then,I had completely forgot about this. it should be out in August 18th.

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LOL I clicked on this and tells me I bought this already in last December! I guess I preordered it then,I had completely forgot about this. it should be out in August 18th.
Hmmm just make sure there's no snafu there, perhaps an order for a different format of Signals? I don't think Amazon was taking pre-orders for the BD-A five months ago?
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Hmmm just make sure there's no snafu there, perhaps an order for a different format of Signals? I don't think Amazon was taking pre-orders for the BD-A five months ago?
It is the same one, I certainly wouldn't pay $30 for a cd or MP3 versions, or vinyl as I don't have a TT. I was surprised too as I couldn't remember it, probably because it was part of a larger order.

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Hmmm just make sure there's no snafu there, perhaps an order for a different format of Signals? I don't think Amazon was taking pre-orders for the BD-A five months ago?
Yes, Amazon (US) was taking pre-orders several months ago. I pre-ordered all 3 (FTK, FBN & Signals) on December 24, 2014.
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I just got my Signals BD, will post impressions later.

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Is there any new/confirmed news regarding their first (1974) album?

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I just got my Signals BD, will post impressions later.
It's a great mix if you turn off the rear channels.
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It's a great mix if you turn off the rear channels.
I was looking forward to this album . So the blu is based on the mix from the dvda ? On the Quadro Quad site they said it was the worst of the three mixes .

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I was looking forward to this album . So the blu is based on the mix from the dvda ? On the Quadro Quad site they said it was the worst of the three mixes .

That is correct.

I find the stereo version sounds pretty good but have only heard it through headphones.
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I was looking forward to this album . So the blu is based on the mix from the dvda ? On the Quadro Quad site they said it was the worst of the three mixes .
This is easily the worst MCH mix I currently own, worse than ELP's Trilogy. Save your money! I also listened the 2ch track via my headphones, no issues there, except the bass is a little thin. Very disappointing overall as I like the album. Someone should fire that Richard Chycki guy.

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I have got the Signals bluray and listened to the the surround mix a couple of times. I love the album and love the songs but it just didn't seem to have much surround content. I will give it another listen today. I don't find it objectionable or poor audio. Just not much surround content or effects. But I wonder if that is also due to the content being more straight forward rock instead of acid rock or whatever they called it before the term progressive rock came into fashion.

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Okay did some comparisons between Signals and FWTKs. Not knowing anything about the mixing process I would liken the Signals Surround to be most like a Matrix mix. By that I mean that there is lots of surround content but it is not very discrete. The two front channels basically show up as ambiance in the rears. Some people hate this because it makes the overall sound quality and enjoyment heavily dependent on tuned and balanced surround speakers etc...

You've got Alex's "Subdivisions" vocal that shows up somewhat discrete in the rears. Also the instrumental part of "The Weapon" has some decent surround content other than ambiance. Fly by pan on "Countdown".

New World Man is perhaps my favorite surround mix on the album. The beginning works well in surround.

You get a lot of vocals and keyboard/synths that are more enveloping because they show up in all channels. Again, any channel that is mismatched to the rest of the system will screw up the effect.

The Signals album in general is good but not as dynamic in terms of audio as other Rush albums. Some songs are uplifting while others are sad with dark foreboding lyrics. All these emotions are strengthened by the subtle envelopment that the ambient surrounds provide. You certainty won't be startled by a discrete surround effect and that works fine for me.

This is my opinion at least.

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Yeah the term "Matrix" is a fitting description. Signals reminded me at those fake automated surround mixes that one can find on the net, made by amateurs. Not exactly a comment a major label wants to hear. The issue to me isn't just that the surrounds used to echo the mains, but the fact there is no thought was put forward, as what kind of mix this was meant to be. Almost like they had someone just twisting knobs randomly and call it a day. Like SW would say "what were they thinking?" Not a whole lot it seems.

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