Originally Posted by obie_fl
Neil - Couple of observations... Curious as to why your system does not do bass management on PCM. It also sounds like you are saying the Dolby and DTS tracks are 2.1. I'm not at home to check but I thought they were 2.0. In other words I thought they were the same mix as PCM just encoded. So in theory they should be the same assuming they are level matched and you aren't applying any extra processing. Not saying your decoder isn't adding something as I believe there likely are differences between the various DTS processors. An interesting experiment would be to turn decoding on in your player and see if it is different from bit streaming.
PCM is a necessity with this disc, at least with my Oppo. When I bitstreamed, each version sounded seriously different, if they played at all. When I switched to PCM, they pretty much sounded the same, including the bass. It It looks like there is a problem with the disc TOC which is giving some, but not all, players fits. For the price, it's not really that bothersome.
I found I do have the Let It Bleed
ABKCO SACD to compare with the SHM-SACD. Since Gimme Shelter
and You Can't Always Get What You Want
are also on the GRR BD, I sat down- actually I got up every 5 minutes to change discs
- to compare them. The ABKCO and BD sounded almost identical. They probably use the same mastering. Unfortunately, compared to the SHM, they do sound a bit compressed and limited. There is a lot more sense of each individual instrument with the SHM. The ABKCO/ BD doesn't sound terrible, in fact considering the (ahem) smoky haze that usually clouds the Stones stuff, they sound pretty good. Of course, they cost 1/3 the price of a SHM-SACD.
BTW, after about 30 minutes of comparing the same songs my wife told me "You're effing crazy!"