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From a club Bastardo email:

Sailing the Seas of Cheese in 5.1 Dolby Surround Sound Release May 21, 2013

"In a restoration personally overseen by Les Claypool, Primus’ acclaimed ‘Sailing The Seas Of Cheese’ has been newly mixed in stereo and Dolby 5.1 Surround for the first time since its 1991 debut for an expanded deluxe edition to be released May 21 by Universal Music Enterprises. The deluxe edition will feature the album’s new stereo mix on CD and the new 5.1 surround mix on Blu-ray or DVD, plus three exclusive, previously unreleased bonus tracks, including two live recordings from Primus’ 2012 “3D Tour” and a Bassnectar Remix of “Here Come The Bastards.” A 200-gram vinyl LP to be released on the same date also features Claypool’s new stereo mix of the album. In a “Mystery Vinyl” challenge for fans, 1000 unmarked, randomly selected copies will contain the new stereo mix on a yellow vinyl LP instead of black."

Amazon lists them for preorder, the cd/Blu Ray has the RED sticker on it (higher price). Says Dual Disc in description but that is the one linked in email from Primus.
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I'm going to buy this just for the album title. smile.gif Seriously, I was interested in the album because of the title, but it really is a good album. Definitely a day one purchase for me.



BTW, it's up for pre- order at Amazon.
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Awesome. Look forward to rocking Primus in surround!!!!

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I've pre-ordered the BD+CD edition, but am curious whether the DVD+CD edition is a DVD-A or DVD-V (i.e. MLP 5.1 vs DD/DTS 5.1). Anyone got specifics on the encodes available on the 5.1 DVD disks?

The CD+DVD sticker seems to state "Audiophile 5.1 Surround Sound Mix", so that should mean a lossless MLP encode on DVD-A.

Hopefully as we get closer to the release we'll find out...

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Agreed hopefully both the Blu and the DVD version have hi-Rez tracks. Would love Frizzle Fry in 5.1 too if they did it.
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It looks like only the BD will be lossless- Dolby TrueHD.



http://www.guitarworld.com/primus-sailing-seas-cheese-deluxe-edition-coming-may-21
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^^ thanks for the link. Going for the Blu! 96/24 on the stereo PCM tracks too. And visuals a la Beck or Flaming Lips as an option (likely not lossless there)
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I've pre-ordered the BD+CD edition, but am curious whether the DVD+CD edition is a DVD-A or DVD-V (i.e. MLP 5.1 vs DD/DTS 5.1). Anyone got specifics on the encodes available on the 5.1 DVD disks?

The CD+DVD sticker seems to state "Audiophile 5.1 Surround Sound Mix", so that should mean a lossless MLP encode on DVD-A.

Hopefully as we get closer to the release we'll find out...

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According to Amazon: "Blu-Ray audio options include Dolby TrueHD 5.1 Surround Sound (96kHz/24-bit), PCM (96kHz/24-bit), PCM Stereo (96kHz/24-bit)." and "DVD audio options include Dolby Digital 5.1 Surround (48kHz/24-bit), Dolby Digital Stereo (48kHz/24-bit), DTS 5.1 Surround (48kHz/24-bit)."

Can't wait for this release. Finally we get to hear "Granddad's Little Ditty" in surround sound, as it was meant to be heard smile.gif "As I stand here in the shower, singing opera and such...."

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According to Amazon: "Blu-Ray audio options include Dolby TrueHD 5.1 Surround Sound (96kHz/24-bit), PCM (96kHz/24-bit), PCM Stereo (96kHz/24-bit)." and "DVD audio options include Dolby Digital 5.1 Surround (48kHz/24-bit), Dolby Digital Stereo (48kHz/24-bit), DTS 5.1 Surround (48kHz/24-bit)."

Can't wait for this release. Finally we get to hear "Granddad's Little Ditty" in surround sound, as it was meant to be heard smile.gif "As I stand here in the shower, singing opera and such...."
Yeah, that wasn't there when i posted, Amazon must have added to the description with the info from a source similar to the info provided by ti-triodes.

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Looks like the blu ray edition has been pushed back to June 11 (according to amazon), but the DVD and Vinyl releases are still on for May 21. Boo.

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I got the same backorder notice mad.gif

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http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/blog/2013/05/21/primus-sailing-seas-surround-1

Great news! I pre-ordered from Amazon.com last night.
Can't wait to get it!
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The BD has been pushed back another week to 6/18. There was supposedly a production glitch.
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Got the DVD and just did my first listen to the DD track. Love the surround mix especially the use of effect in rear channels.

Track 12 triggers my vt50 TV to ask if I want to switch to 3D mode.... Playback is fine. I wonder if this is the production issue that caused the delay of the BD??? Just a theory...

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Blu Ray has shipped! Looking forward to this.
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Just received the Deluxe Edition and will hopefully be spinning it tonight.

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Those of you who have received this set, please regale us with your impressions as soon as possible.
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Maybe I should have bought the lossy DVD version LOL. Truth be known all my prior Blu Rays were DTS-MA which feeds DTS to mr older receiver which has no HDMI inputs. I can't play the Dolby HD or the PCM 5.1 as my Blu ray player only had stereo analog outputs. I have a separate DVD-A / SACD that has 5.1 analog I normally use for hi def audio. I need to either get a new receiver that does HDMI and 5.1 analog or get myself an Oppo that will decode Dolby-HD Andy DTS-MA to 5.1 analog out. The Oppo will do this correct? I need to go whichever route will be the cheapest so the Mrs. doesn't get too mad!
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I listened to a few songs late last night and I liked what I heard. Hopefully I'll be able to give it a proper audition tonight, but so far so good.




*edit-I'm referring to the MCH bluray version.
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The Bluray arrived this afternoon - I've only listened to the CD so far, but I like it. Did a side by side comparo of several tracks with my CD from circa-1992 and here's what I found:

-For better or worse, we have another victim of the loudness wars. The new version still sounds really good, and I think the improvements in this new master outweigh any theoretical loss of dynamic range, but I still object on principle.

-The extra gain also made it tough to do any critical comparisons between the old and new versions, because I was level-matching manually every time I switched back and forth. There were some tracks that didn't sound much different, apart from being a little louder.

-Overall, the soundstage is a bit more up-front, and the background sound effects are a bit more clear. So far, I like. Examples: The reverb on the vocals on Seas of Cheese is more clear, Sgt. Baker's voice is a little sharper, and the bassline for American Life is more powerful.

-Some tracks sound significantly different. The engine intro for Jerry is now in fuller stereo and is louder than before, even when level matched. The snare drums at the beginning of Tommy sound more raw and realistic. The biggest change is to Eleven, which is about 4 seconds longer than the old version, with a couple of seconds of crecendo as an intro before the drums start in. Haven't decided whether I prefer the new changes, but leaning toward yes. I definitely like the new version of the Jerry intro.

Now to get home and listen to the blu ray. smile.gif

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The Bluray arrived this afternoon - I've only listened to the CD so far, but I like it. Did a side by side comparo of several tracks with my CD from circa-1992 and here's what I found:

-For better or worse, we have another victim of the loudness wars. The new version still sounds really good, and I think the improvements in this new master outweigh any theoretical loss of dynamic range, but I still object on principle.

-The extra gain also made it tough to do any critical comparisons between the old and new versions, because I was level-matching manually every time I switched back and forth. There were some tracks that didn't sound much different, apart from being a little louder.

-Overall, the soundstage is a bit more up-front, and the background sound effects are a bit more clear. So far, I like. Examples: The reverb on the vocals on Seas of Cheese is more clear, Sgt. Baker's voice is a little sharper, and the bassline for American Life is more powerful.

-Some tracks sound significantly different. The engine intro for Jerry is now in fuller stereo and is louder than before, even when level matched. The snare drums at the beginning of Tommy sound more raw and realistic. The biggest change is to Eleven, which is about 4 seconds longer than the old version, with a couple of seconds of crecendo as an intro before the drums start in. Haven't decided whether I prefer the new changes, but leaning toward yes. I definitely like the new version of the Jerry intro.

Now to get home and listen to the blu ray. smile.gif

[UPDATE]
Played around with the blu-ray last night. Overall, a very well done release. The surround effects are noticable without being overdone or distracting, and the audio quality is top notch. I could take or leave the video/visualizer portions.

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Regarding the video stuff. The viewing angle option allows you to change what you see. You can just have the video, trippy sound waves or both. Kind of handy as the trippy sound wave stuff reminder me of 1970's video with that kaleidoscope effect.

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anyone who enjoys bluray hd audio will love this one...sounds amazing on my system and unbelievably loud...True HD about 10 db or so louder than the PCM 5.1

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Primus is always bad ass. I just ordered my CD/BR last night from EBay for $25 shipped. Can't wait !!!
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I listened to a few songs late last night and I liked what I heard. Hopefully I'll be able to give it a proper audition tonight, but so far so good..

I'm really enjoying the mix and SQ of this disc, and the bass is excellent as well. Nice work, Les!

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I have to admit I never heard this album before it came out in 5.1, but I absolutely love it. I got Here Come The Bastards stuck in my head for about for about a week now. Nice!


BTW, if you haven't tried the visualizer on the videos yet, give it a try. It's a lot of fun. biggrin.gif
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Ok.Ok. I give. Never heard it either.
Ordered.

Gotta be better than Diana Krall anyway eek.gif

 

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