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post #211 of 216 Old 07-11-2014, 11:25 PM
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Just got my shipping notice for Quadrophenia. Still not in my cloud though.
Received Quadrophenia: 1973 Studio Album (Blu-ray Pure Audio) earlier this week (which BTW is fantastic!) and no associated AutoRip showed up. Went ahead and used the mp3 credit they gave me for http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1. For an mp3 it will suffice.

As an aside, I think all of these HFPA discs should have an associated free download included with the disc, regardless what Amazon or some other third party chooses to do in that regard. I'm sure they don't see it that way but to me it just makes sense. We've already bought the content for the surround sound and/or HiRes, why not give us the digital download to play in the car, etc.? I hope some day this whole digital content mess shakes down to a system that makes sense from a consumer's perspective.
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Received Quadrophenia: 1973 Studio Album (Blu-ray Pure Audio) earlier this week (which BTW is fantastic!)
I've just backed-up the '5.1Ch DTS-HD MA' part of this disc to the .mka container and transferred it to my NAS...

These HFPA disc's really do make me laugh... Given they supposedly contain "No Video Content", I've managed to remove over 8.5GB worth

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These HFPA disc's really do make me laugh... Given they supposedly contain "No Video Content", I've managed to remove over 8.5GB worth
I never would have guessed the slideshow and menus would account for that amount of storage.

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I never would have guessed the slideshow and menus would account for that amount of storage.
Sadly, the Quadrophenia disc is yet another example of bizarrely created HFPA disc...

The disc comprises of 4No .m2ts files. Like this: -



When you run '00002.m2ts' file through MediaInfo you see the following: -


General
ID : 0 (0x0)
Complete name : \\FullDisc\The Who Quadrophenia 2014 5.1\BDMV\STREAM\00002.m2ts
Format : BDAV
Format/Info : Blu-ray Video
File size : 21.7 GiB
Duration : 1h 21mn
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 38.0 Mbps
Maximum Overall bit rate : 48.0 Mbps

Video
ID : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 2 frames
Format settings, GOP : M=1, N=10
Codec ID : 27
Duration : 1h 21mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 29.7 Mbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.597
Stream size : 17.0 GiB (78%)

Audio #1
ID : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : PCM
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Format settings, Sign : Signed
Muxing mode : Blu-ray
Codec ID : 128
Duration : 1h 21mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 4 608 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 96.0 KHz
Bit depth : 24 bits
Stream size : 2.63 GiB (12%)

Audio #2
ID : 4353 (0x1101)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : DTS
Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems
Format profile : 96/24 / Core
Mode : 16
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Muxing mode : Stream extension
Codec ID : 134
Duration : 1h 21mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 1 509 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 96.0 KHz / 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 24 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 883 MiB (4%)

Audio #3
ID : 4354 (0x1102)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : TrueHD / AC-3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Muxing mode : Stream extension
Codec ID : 131
Duration : 1h 21mn
Bit rate mode : Variable / Constant
Bit rate : 640 Kbps
Maximum bit rate : 8 010 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 96.0 KHz / 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Stream size : 374 MiB (2%)




However, when you run '00003.m2ts' file through MediaInfo you see the following: -


General
ID : 0 (0x0)
Complete name : \\FullDisc\The Who Quadrophenia 2014 5.1\BDMV\STREAM\00003.m2ts
Format : BDAV
Format/Info : Blu-ray Video
File size : 11.9 GiB
Duration : 1h 22mn
Overall bit rate mode : Variable
Overall bit rate : 20.6 Mbps
Maximum Overall bit rate : 48.0 Mbps

Video
ID : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 2 frames
Format settings, GOP : M=1, N=10
Codec ID : 27
Duration : 1h 22mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 15.2 Mbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.305
Stream size : 8.73 GiB (74%)

Audio
ID : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : PCM
Format settings, Endianness : Big
Format settings, Sign : Signed
Muxing mode : Blu-ray
Codec ID : 128
Duration : 1h 22mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 4 608 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 96.0 KHz
Bit depth : 24 bits
Stream size : 2.65 GiB (22%)




EDIT: According to the disc's rear sleeve notes the disc contains a 2014 2Ch PCM mix and a 1973 2Ch PCM mix. Both at 96KHz/24-bit.

The first .m2ts file contains the new 2014 2Ch mix, with a duration of 81mins 49.774secs. And a video stream at 8.53GB.
The second .m2ts file contains the old 1973 2Ch mix, with a duration of 82mins 23.802secs. And a video stream at 8.59GB.

Sufficed to say, there's no mention on Universal's 'Pure Audio' web site that this disc contains the 1973 2Ch mix...

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Sadly, the Quadrophenia disc is yet another example of bizarrely created HFPA disc...
Thanks for the detailed breakdown. I have no idea how these BDAs are typically set up in their containers so have nothing to compare to. Still seems like way more space occupied by video files than the viewed content.

As I previously mentioned though (perhaps in another thread), I do like the slideshow presentation of the liner material they employed in this disc. I didn't know what the standard for video content in HFPA (or other BDAs) is but like the idea of having some kind of screen saver there as a default and it just makes sense to me to use the liner material, and preferably including the album credits. Why not have that available on the big screen?

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Following on from my previously mentioned Nick Drake - Five Leaves Left HFPA disc debacle, the disc has reappeared on Universal's UK web site.

However, although the disc is listed within the 'Pure Audio' section of their web site, it's got the letters 'CD' next to the disc's title!!!

Who's in charge of 'web site' quality control over at Universal. Come on guys... Get the information right?!
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