Anybody have an opinion on using a PS3 as a SACD player? My understanding is that it will only have analog stereo outputs. Does this mean that you won't be able to use it as a multi-channel SACD player?
Just in case anyone is confused about DVD-Audio...
It will, of course, play the DVD-Video zone of DVD-Audio discs, which will give you 2-channel PCM, DD 5.1 or DTS 5.1 (sometimes DTS 96/24 - does the PS3 support this?). So a DVD-Audio disc is always useful even if you don't have a DVD-Audio player yet.
Yes he is. As posted in the manual it isnt supported, and if you have optical output on, and try to play an SACD, the PS3 will give you an error screen telling you to either chose analog stereo or HDMI for SACD playback.
Having said that does anyone else have crappy quality with Mulitichannel SACD via HDMI with the PS3. Maybe it's the CD I'm using, or my Onkyo 804. But Marvin Gaye SACD mulitchannel sounds like poo, when played in multichannel on the PS3. This a Hybrid disc with 2ch and Mulit, the 2ch sounds great. Multi...not so much..
Its the SACD you are using. the "Marvin Gaye Collection" SACD is one of the worst multichannel mixes and encoding you will ever hear. The stereo mix has some errors but is much better.
Its the SACD you are using. the "Marvin Gaye Collection" SACD is one of the worst multichannel mixes and encoding you will ever hear. The stereo mix has some errors but is much better.
Anyone else getting an occasional "This media cannot be played on the connected hardware" error when playing SACD? Usually a quick tap of the circle button fixes it, but it is kind of irritating.
And HOLY CARCK does Brothers in Arms sound phenomenal.
There is some uncertainty about the optical out. I don't have the PS3 but I'm curious.
How do you know if the stereo 2.0 channel via optical (as PCM) comes from the stereo SACD mix and not the RBCD layer? Is there an OSD which tells you leaving no doubt about it?
Thanks Frozen Sooner! The ability to play the stereo SACD mix would be one consideration when I finally decide whether to get the PS3 or a standalone BD player.
Thanks for the valuable info for PS3 as a SACD player. I do think that my SACD's sound nice via HDMI into my Marantz SR7001 receiver, but I have a problem though. At first when I insert the disc, the receiver detects "SACD" and the DSD indicator lights up. There is however no sound output. When I stop playback and enter the same 5.1 layer from the menu, the receiver reads "multi-channel 5.1" with the DSD indicator not lit, and sound is output in 5.1.
My impression is that I'm getting 5.1 sound, but in standard resolution( for want of a better description).
Can you guys tell me what I'm doing wrong? The Marantz is HDMI ver.1.2 for input.
Basically, the PS3 can't pass DSD/DST just yet. However, it can convert the stereo and multichannel audio at up to 176.4 kHz. The sampling rate depends on the capabilities of your receiver.
Any idea if the firmware 1.8 update will allow me to get DSD?. I notice that they've included "bitstream for SACD" in the list of features in 1.8. Is this the same as DSD?
Anyway, downloading the update now. Just wanted to know if anyone else have tried it.
I didnt want to make a new thread so i hope this is an alright thread to ask questions.
I have never listened to SA-CD and just found out that the PS3 is capable. I currently have my PS3 running to a Sony STR-DG810 receiver via HDMI and everything seems to be working fine besides SA-CD's.
I get lossless sound via blu-rays and 1080p to my television. However, when I go to play a SA-CD (Miles Davis - King of Blue) it says ""This media cannot be played on the connected hardware" error when playing SACD" but unlike Frozen Sooner on page 2 I cannot actually ever play the track. This happens on both the 5.1 and 2.0 tracks that show up on the PS3. I am using 1.80 firmware.
Does my receiver not support this? From what I understand, the PS3 converts SACDs into PCM and then transmits over to the receiver. Am i not understanding correctly?
Sorry for the noobish questions but this is my first attemp at ever playing a SA-CD.
Any suggestions or insight would be greatly appreciated.
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I didnt want to make a new thread so i hope this is an alright thread to ask questions.
I have never listened to SA-CD and just found out that the PS3 is capable. I currently have my PS3 running to a Sony STR-DG810 receiver via HDMI and everything seems to be working fine besides SA-CD's.
I get lossless sound via blu-rays and 1080p to my television. However, when I go to play a SA-CD (Miles Davis - King of Blue) it says ""This media cannot be played on the connected hardware" error when playing SACD" but unlike Frozen Sooner on page 2 I cannot actually ever play the track. This happens on both the 5.1 and 2.0 tracks that show up on the PS3. I am using 1.80 firmware.
Does my receiver not support this? From what I understand, the PS3 converts SACDs into PCM and then transmits over to the receiver. Am i not understanding correctly?
Sorry for the noobish questions but this is my first attemp at ever playing a SA-CD.
Any suggestions or insight would be greatly appreciated.
You are correct. The PS3 converts DSD to PCM and sends that out. Why you can't play that disc is beyond me. Have you tried another SACD ? I've had no problems playing SACDs. I'm using a marantz sr7001 receiver connected to my ps3
Interesting problem bigcheda. I have that same SACD of Miles, it works just fine with my PS3 and Onkyo 804. Have you checked your HDMI audio output settings on the PS3. That error sounds as if the PS3 is trying to send SACD via Toslink. Go to sound options on the PS3 and make sure that HDMI is the source for sound output, also go to manual settings,(not automatic) check and make sure that 2ch 176.4k, and under 5.1 make sure 88.2k are selected as one of the output formats. If it still doesnt work after this then Im stumped. I would think the DG810 would be able to support 176.4k 2 channel. and 88.2 for 5.1. I havent look deep into the 810's specs, but it seems like it should support this.
You are correct the PS3 does output SACD as a PCM signal to the AVR. Good luck let us know how it goes.
well i am not sure what exactly happened but I put in a different sa-cd and it worked, 5.1 176khz PCM (or thats what the receiver indicated). Then i put the SACD of Miles and it worked.
I am not sure if I changed anythign or if it was just a fluke the first time.
Just to clear up one point, my PS3 with 1.82 firmware won't let me play an SACD via optical. If I attempt to, I get a message to that effect.
Anyway, while using the 2 channel analog output, I was able to pick the multi channel or two channel version of an SACD. Thinking I would be hard pressed to tell the difference, I put on Diana Krall's "Temptation". Low and behold, the first track has a 4 bar intro on the two channel and an 8 bar intro on the multi channel. They must mix the multi down to two channel -- with dolby encoding, I wonder?
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Go to XMB, Settings, Audio, HDMI, choose Auto.
Basically, the PS3 can't pass DSD/DST just yet. However, it can convert the stereo and multichannel audio at up to 176.4 kHz. The sampling rate depends on the capabilities of your receiver.
Is DSD passthrough something that's feasable in the PS3's future? Just wondering if I should try to find another option (if one exists), or simply wait it out?
Well all I can say is that I currently have hdmi pcm (bitmapping type1) sacd's playing, and it sounds phenominal.
I tried to find some hard info on the difference between the 2 types of bitmapping/noise reduction for the sacd bitstream, but I've had no luck so far.
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Is DSD passthrough something that's feasable in the PS3's future? Just wondering if I should try to find another option (if one exists), or simply wait it out?
It is highly unlikely, given that they just took SACD out of the 40GB model.
With DSD > 24/176.4 PCM multi-channel conversion though, ask yourself it it's really worth it to get a decicated SACD player with DSD output, becuase then you have to make sure the receiver accepts DSD natively.
The Onkyo 605 for example is HDMI 1.3, but does NOT accept DSD.
If you are totally stuck on DSD instead of PCM conversion - the $169 Oppo 980H is a great choice.
best response ever. I am all about the lights lighting up. Have to get every last feature of the equipment working at one time or another. (even if its just a light bulb!) :lol
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