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I just found the most rare DTS 5.1 from Eric Burdon called declare War....This guy wrote songs like Low Rider, Spill Wine and Cisco Kid
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And before that, a whole lot more. "The Animals"
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Arrived today from CD Japan: Steely Dan/ Countdown to Ecstasy and It's Only Rock n Roll, Tattoo You, and Love You Live, all by the Stones. All SHM SACD's. Just in time for the weekend. Last week got Bob Marley's 30th Anniversary Blu Ray of Legend. Really nice 5.1 mix.
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The Dan title most interests me. First, how much better does it sound than the CD, and then how does it sound compared to other SACD's of albums from the same era?

Your comments will be greatly appreciated!

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I have Countdown to Ecstasy on the way. Just ordered "Two Against Nature" on HDTracks.

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Two Talking Heads including Remain In Light and Speaking in Tongues, Bob Dylan Blood on the Tracks, Blue Man Group: Audio, Porcupine Tree Stupid Dream and finally the Yes Album......went on a bit of a spree!

EDIT: Add Dylan Blonde on Blonde and Slow Train Coming to the list. Wish I could find Beck Sea Change DVD-A for a decent price......

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For those of you interested in the SHM-SACD of CTE, there's the usual torturous thread on SHF that is more tortured than usual.
Bill has been participating as have I, FWIW my moniker at SHF is mongo.
When I first joined AVS in the late 90's, mongo was my name here as well but it disappeared at some point, anywhoooo..

I like the SACD.
Not what I call "audiophile" level but still very nice and ridiculously crankable.
I had sworn off SHM-SACDS a while ago but since I had no digital versions of it I figured $45 shipped was worth a shot.
Not SQ related but they have, imo, greatly improved the packaging on these discs.
A nice box with a mini-sleeve and the disc in the usual puffy liner and not in the sleeve.
SHM discs were always nicely packaged but a PITA to deal with as the sleeves were generally gatefold or multi gatefold and the disc fit in the sleeve really tightly.
I always put the discs into a lift-loc jewel case.

Anyway, my review of CTE is on SHF if you care.
If you are a fan of this album and SACD I recommend it.
What I don't know is how it compares to the SHM-CD or Platinum CD.
My guess would be that it would be hard to impossible to tell the difference but I'm speaking from a definite bias plus the SQ of the SACD.

 

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The Dan title most interests me. First, how much better does it sound than the CD, and then how does it sound compared to other SACD's of albums from the same era?

Your comments will be greatly appreciated!

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Jeff I listened to CTE 4 times yesterday the first time thru I went back and forth track for track between the CD which was ripped to my computer and the SACD. Very unscientific I know. Like Milt posted before me not quite audiophile level but still very very good. On each listen I noticed more detail than what I've heard on the CD. For one thing it's not as loud. Fagen's vocals and the backup vocals are clear but they don't get in the way of the music like they do on my CD rip.The imaging is better and the sound stage is wider. I could hear more of what was being played. It may be blasphemous but to me this SACD sounds a lot more vinyl like but with more depth. Its hard for me to compare it with other SACD's from that era only because the ones that I do have are MCH and I haven't listened to them in stereo. But of those that I do have that aren't MCH, which are the first Allman Bros. a couple of the Kinks efforts from late in the 70's and the Stones IORAR which I got at the same time as CTE, I can say that it sounds better. It blows away the Allmans and the Kinks. The Stones come close though which really surprised me. The only other SD album I have on SACD is Gaucho which I actually prefer in stereo and CTE doesn't sound as good as that. But I would still recommend it. Hope this helps.
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Looking forward to my copy of CTE. With any luck at all it will arrive before I head off to Cabo on Saturday. I hadn't heard the album for some time so I served it up on Spotify today. Now that I've refreshed my memory on the content, I'm really looking forward to this one!

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Jeff I listened to CTE 4 times yesterday the first time thru I went back and forth track for track between the CD which was ripped to my computer and the SACD. Very unscientific I know. Like Milt posted before me not quite audiophile level ..... Hope this helps.
Thanks! It does help and lines up with other comments I have read. It's not all an SACD could be, but it is a lot better than the CD(s).

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I just found the most rare DTS 5.1 from Eric Burdon called declare War....This guy wrote songs like Low Rider, Spill Wine and Cisco Kid
Just to set the record straight, Eric Burdon had nothing to do with Low Rider or Cisco Kid.
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Thanks! It does help and lines up with other comments I have read. It's not all an SACD could be, but it is a lot better than the CD(s).

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Jeff if you like CTE I would recommend the SHM-SACD.
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Two Talking Heads including Remain In Light and Speaking in Tongues, Bob Dylan Blood on the Tracks, Blue Man Group: Audio, Porcupine Tree Stupid Dream and finally the Yes Album......went on a bit of a spree!

EDIT: Add Dylan Blonde on Blonde and Slow Train Coming to the list. Wish I could find Beck Sea Change DVD-A for a decent price......

I really like those Talking Head's DVD-A's and Bob Dylan Blood on the Tracks SACD. Lucky you to be hearing these for the first time. Enjoy!
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Just to set the record straight, Eric Burdon had nothing to do with Low Rider or Cisco Kid.
lol your sig seems applicable here.

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I'd like to see some photos and a description of the "rare" DTS 5.1 of declares 'War' that he refers to....
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For those looking for "bargain" SHM-SACDs Universal is rereleasing some OOP SHM-SACDs for $33.64 each. Below is a thread over at the Steve Hoffman forum discussing the new rereleases.


http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/thread...issues.377297/


Here is a list of the SHM-SACDs with some being OOP for awhile with high asking prices on ebay.


The Allman Brothers Band
[ SACD ] At Fillmore East [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release]
http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/person/51014?order=new&opt.include_eoa=1
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Steely Dan
[ SACD ] Aja [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release]
[ SACD ] Gaucho [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release]
http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/person/94683?order=new&opt.include_eoa=1
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John Mayall & The Bluesbreakers with Eric Clapton
[ SACD ] John Mayall & Blues Breakers With Eric Clapton [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release]
http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/person/700252978?order=new&opt.include_eoa=1
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Wes Mongomery & Winton Kelly
[ SACD ] Smokin' at The Half Note [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release]
http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/person/44357?order=new&opt.include_eoa=1
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Asia
[ SACD ] Asia [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release]
http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/person/46131?order=new&opt.include_eoa=1
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Traffic
[ SACD ] John Barleycorn Must Die [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release]
http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/person/114888?order=new&opt.include_eoa=1
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Stevie Wonder
[ SACD ] Talking Book [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release]
[ SACD ] Innervisions [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release]
[ SACD ] Fulfillingness' First Finale [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release]
[ SACD ] Songs In The Key Of Life [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release]
[ SACD ] Hotter Than July [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release]
http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/person/93954?order=new&opt.include_eoa=1
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10cc
[ SACD ] The Original Soundtrack [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release]
http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/person/700199898?order=new&opt.include_eoa=1
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B.B.King
[ SACD ] Live at The Regal [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release]
http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/person/2438?order=new&opt.include_eoa=1
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Blind Faith
[ SACD ] Blind Faith [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release]
http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/person/144301?order=new&opt.include_eoa=1
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The Who
[ SACD ] My Generation [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release]
[ SACD ] The Who Sell Out [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release]
[ SACD ] Tommy [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release]
[ SACD ] Who's Next [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release]
[ SACD ] Quadrophenia [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release]
[ SACD ] The Singles [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release]
http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/person/27999?order=new&opt.include_eoa=1
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WISHBONE ASH
[ SACD ] Argus [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release]
http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/person/42923?order=new&opt.include_eoa=1
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The Rolling Stones
[ SACD ] Big Hits (High Tide And Green Grass) [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release]
[ SACD ] Their Satanic Majesties Request [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release]
[ SACD ] Beggars Banquet [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release]
[ SACD ] Through The Past. Darkly (Big Hits Vol.2) [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release]
[ SACD ] Let It Bleed [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release]
[ SACD ] STICKY FINGERS [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release]
[ SACD ] Exile On Main St. [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release]
[ SACD ] Goats Head Soup [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release]
[ SACD ] It's Only Rock 'n Roll [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release]
[ SACD ] Black And Blue [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release]
[ SACD ] Love You Live [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release]
[ SACD ] Some Girls [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release]
[ SACD ] Emotional Rescure [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release]
[ SACD ] Tattoo You [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release]
[ SACD ] Still Life (American Concert 1981) [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release]
[ SACD ] Undercover [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release]
[ SACD ] Dirty Work [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release]
http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/person/185709?order=new&opt.include_eoa=1
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DIRE STRAITS
[ SACD ] Dire Straits [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release]
[ SACD ] Communique [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release]
[ SACD ] Making Movies [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release]
[ SACD ] Love Over Gold [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release]
[ SACD ] Alchemy: Dire Straits Live [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release]
http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/person/101417?order=new&opt.include_eoa=1
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Miles Davis
[ SACD ] Relaxin' With The Miles Davis Quintet [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release]
[ SACD ] Cookin' With The Miles Davis Quintet [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release]
[ SACD ] Workin' With The Miles Davis Quintet [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release]
http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/person/160946?order=new&opt.include_eoa=1
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Lynyrd Skynyrd
[ SACD ] Secand Helping [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release]
http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/person/182107?order=new&opt.include_eoa=1
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Bill Evans
[ SACD ] Waltz For Debby [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release]
[ SACD ] Portrait In Jazz +1 [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release]
[ SACD ] Sunday at The Village Vanguard [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release]
[ SACD ] Explorations +2 [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release]
[ SACD ] Moonbeams [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release]
[ SACD ] How My Heart Sings [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release]
[ SACD ] Interplay [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release]
[ SACD ] At The Montreux Jazz Festival [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release]
[ SACD ] Alone [SHM-SACD] [Limited Release]
http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/person/700296286?order=new&opt.include_eoa=1
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Great list Bill, thank you for posting. Does anyone already have Who's Next on SHM-SACD and could comment on it? Seems to be a mixed bag for reviews on SA-CD.net...
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Great list Bill, thank you for posting. Does anyone already have Who's Next on SHM-SACD and could comment on it? Seems to be a mixed bag for reviews on SA-CD.net...
First one I bought.
In fact I think it was the first one.
Buy the Canadian MCA mastered by Steve Hoffman just a good, imo.

With that said I'm all over the Blind Faith!

 

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For those looking for "bargain" SHM-SACDs Universal is rereleasing some OOP SHM-SACDs for $33.64 each. Below is a thread over at the Steve Hoffman forum discussing the new rereleases.


http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/thread...issues.377297/


Here is a list of the SHM-SACDs with some being OOP for awhile with high asking prices on ebay.
Crikeys, I need oxygen and a walker after reading the list. Is there a BillMacPac? 'Cause you're going to need one!

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Ya know Bill comes across as a friendly font of information but in actuality the guy is a major enabler.
The quick successive overseas orders I made kicked off a fraud alert on my AMEX Gold Card.
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First one I bought.
In fact I think it was the first one.
Buy the Canadian MCA mastered by Steve Hoffman just a good, imo.

With that said I'm all over the Blind Faith!
Thanks Milt, that one is available locally for $10. Haven't had a copy of Who's Next since the vinyl one back in the day. This one will do just fine until the MC comes out...right Mr. Townshend?
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Honestly Red, the experience I had A/B'ing these 2 discs led me to a solid conviction regarding comparing different versions regardless of format.
This will be boring but so be it.
I spent a good 90 minutes straining to discern any difference between these 2 discs and in the end I could not.
Every which way. Listening hard, concentrating. Oh wait? What's that?! Spin the other one. Hmmm, yes, no wait.
Taking notes on this section and that.
In the end I was exhausted. Truthfully.
I came to the realization that if I could not discern a difference, whatever that difference may be with 5-10 minutes and in reality less than that,
then the difference wasn't there or it was no real difference at all.
No graphs, no multiple days of listening and then returning to it.
Zip, Zilch, Nil, Nada.
If there is a real, meaningful difference it will be easy and obvious.

 

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Well said. At the end of the day, we don't listen with gauges and meters. "How does it sound to you?" still should carry the most weight. I think we've all heard some great sounding CDs, and some SACDs that should have been left on the music store shelf. Formats are usually an indicator of "goodness", but not always. Likely pick up that cd copy this weekend, thanks again Milt...
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Some time ago when ELP and Tarkus were released, I got very excited about the opportunity to do comparisons between the original stereo mix on CD, SW's new stereo mix on CD and SW's new stereo mix on DVD-Audio. There was an immediately noticeable difference between original Tarkus mix and new mix on CD, but no difference that I could discern from the latter to the DVD-A.

I initially found this surprising and a little disappointing, but ELP (the band) was never a high dynamic range, audiophile experience. And recording technology of the day was not yet to the point where the original multichannel tapes had a wealth of unrevealed detail. Redbook Audio was capable of conveying the additional detail unlocked by remixing and moving to MLP exposed nothing else.

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For those looking for "bargain" SHM-SACDs Universal is rereleasing some OOP SHM-SACDs for $33.64 each. Below is a thread over at the Steve Hoffman forum discussing the new rereleases.
When purchasing from CD Japan, what is the best shipping method - there are several options, some with signature required, some with tracking, and of course different pricing. Just wanted to know which method(s) gets things delivered reliably and without hassle/surprises (duty/brokerage fees)?
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Exactly, you made a good case right there. I guess that's one reason I scour forums like this one, trying to get other's take on particular pieces of music in differing formats. What with BD-A now (and we all know some of them have been stellar, some big misses so far) SACD, etc, and a lot of the prices aren't cheap...it pays to do a little homework before a purchase. I hate to say it this way, but in a lot of cases someone else has taken the bullet for me, buying something they might have regretted. What I do appreciate, is that they'll share with us here so we don't make the same mistake. And I try to do the same.
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When purchasing from CD Japan, what is the best shipping method - there are several options, some with signature required, some with tracking, and of course different pricing. Just wanted to know which method(s) gets things delivered reliably and without hassle/surprises (duty/brokerage fees)?
I always go with just plain air mail(no tracking). Takes about 5 business days and is pretty consistent.
I live on the west coast so anything coming out of Japan goes by air to customs in San Franscisco, actually a city nearby but can't remember.
Not sure what the difference would be if you live farther east.
I've never had any customs fees etc.
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When purchasing from CD Japan, what is the best shipping method - there are several options, some with signature required, some with tracking, and of course different pricing. Just wanted to know which method(s) gets things delivered reliably and without hassle/surprises (duty/brokerage fees)?

I usually choose Air Mail, 750 yen and have never had a problem.


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