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Thanks. Wow, just eight MC SACDs and only one not classical (Cowboy Junkies which I already have).

I just got the Doobie Brothers "Captain and Me" SACD import from Japan (only $37 from Amazon Japan and got it in 3 days!) because sa-cd.net shows it is MC (discog doesn't indicate stereo or MC). When I listen to it, it seems like a surround mix (although nothing from the sub so appears to be a 5.0 mix to me) with different instruments/vocals on different speakers, like mostly vocals from center, but my Oppo 103 shows "stereo."

Just curious because it sounds like surround but doesn't indicate 5.1 on my Oppo which has never been wrong before. I guess the disc could have an error in the authoring or something so it shows stereo when it's MC.
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Thanks. Wow, just eight MC SACDs and only one not classical (Cowboy Junkies which I already have).

I just got the Doobie Brothers "Captain and Me" SACD import from Japan (only $37 from Amazon Japan and got it in 3 days!) because sa-cd.net shows it is MC (discog doesn't indicate stereo or MC). When I listen to it, it seems like a surround mix (although nothing from the sub so appears to be a 5.0 mix to me) with different instruments/vocals on different speakers, like mostly vocals from center, but my Oppo 103 shows "stereo."

Just curious because it sounds like surround but doesn't indicate 5.1 on my Oppo which has never been wrong before. I guess the disc could have an error in the authoring or something so it shows stereo when it's MC.
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WEA Japan ‎– WPCR-14172 (2011): Hybrid Stereo/Multichannel.
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Darn, I guess I got the 2017 stereo SACD, but it doesn't sound like stereo. Vocals mostly from center channel, less from L and R so it can't be stereo I don't think, but then again the listing shows stereo and my Oppo does too. Bizarre...
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Darn, I guess I got the 2017 stereo SACD, but it doesn't sound like stereo. Vocals mostly from center channel, less from L and R so it can't be stereo I don't think, but then again the listing shows stereo and my Oppo does too. Bizarre...
If you paid $37, then you bought the stereo release. On the amazon japan website, it's listed for ¥ 3,240 (~$29). The multichannel release costs ¥ 7,980 (~$72).

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Yeah, thanks for the link as I had totally forgotten about that site even though I bought a bunch of SACDs (all my Depeche Mode) there a decade ago.

I noticed they have Cars Heartbeat City, one of my 80s favs. It's MoFi so I assume it's not MC, but it's not on sa-cd.net nor the MoFi website so I'm not 100% about that. I only buy MC so I would like to find out. Anyone have this one and can confirm it's stereo and/or MC?

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If you paid $37, then you bought the stereo release. On the amazon japan website, it's listed for ¥ 3,240 (~$29). The multichannel release costs ¥ 7,980 (~$72).
Yep. Sucks when you buy the wrong SACD but it's so easy to do with multiple releases, some stereo and some MC. I've done this with Billy Joel 52nd Street and Miles Davis Kind of Blue also. I would get the MC but they don't ship to the US. Exhorbitant prices on ebay ($140).

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sa-cd.net has been shutdown and the new site is HRAudio.net. I believe it's run by the same group as sa-cd.net. It's linked in my signature.

Hearbeat City MOFI SACD listing http://www.hraudio.net/showmusic.php?title=11635

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Ah, thanks. I didn't know sa-cd.net is basically defunct now.
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Yep. Sucks when you buy the wrong SACD but it's so easy to do with multiple releases, some stereo and some MC. I've done this with Billy Joel 52nd Street and Miles Davis Kind of Blue also. I would get the MC but they don't ship to the US. Exhorbitant prices on ebay ($140).
I feel your pain. It definitely requires performing due diligence. Prior to making a purchase, I recommend you check here to validate the release you're interested in purchasing. Our little group of posters will be glad to help.
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Darn, I guess I got the 2017 stereo SACD, but it doesn't sound like stereo. Vocals mostly from center channel, less from L and R so it can't be stereo I don't think, but then again the listing shows stereo and my Oppo does too. Bizarre...
Yes, I believe the WEA offering is the quad mix. The only MC SACD of the Doobies released AFAIK. But they are sitting on quads of What Were Once Vices, Stampede, and Toulouse Street. It'd be nice if those were released before I croak Also, if you're interested in Heartbeat City (last year's MoFi release), don't let the lack of MC deter you. I buy almost exclusively MC too, but this is a worthy exception, it's absolutely fantastic. That one and 'The Cars', can't go wrong with either/both.
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I feel your pain. It definitely requires performing due diligence. Prior to making a purchase, I recommend you check here to validate the release you're interested in purchasing. Our little group of posters will be glad to help.
Yep, will have to definitely be more careful in the future.

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Yes, I believe the WEA offering is the quad mix. The only MC SACD of the Doobies released AFAIK. But they are sitting on quads of What Were Once Vices, Stampede, and Toulouse Street. It'd be nice if those were released before I croak Also, if you're interested in Heartbeat City (last year's MoFi release), don't let the lack of MC deter you. I buy almost exclusively MC too, but this is a worthy exception, it's absolutely fantastic. That one and 'The Cars', can't go wrong with either/both.
That's an interesting idea about the quad mix. It shows as "stereo" on my Oppo so I don't know how to reconcile that with the audio from the speakers, where it seems the vocals are higher in the center, and some L and R differences too. I didn't have any faux surround processing being done by my AVR. But if the Oppo shows "stereo" then doesn't that mean it's detecting/receiving just two channels of audio that are being played over the 5 speakers (nothing from the sub)? Maybe I'll post a separate thread to see if anyone else has noticed the same thing with this disc.

I'm almost tempted to get the stereo SACD of Heartbeat City after your endorsement. I don't think my hearing is good enough at this point (too many concerts/loud music) to really appreciate higher sonic qualities and so I probably won't get it unless I find it really cheap somewhere.
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Yep, will have to definitely be more careful in the future.



That's an interesting idea about the quad mix. It shows as "stereo" on my Oppo so I don't know how to reconcile that with the audio from the speakers, where it seems the vocals are higher in the center, and some L and R differences too. I didn't have any faux surround processing being done by my AVR. But if the Oppo shows "stereo" then doesn't that mean it's detecting/receiving just two channels of audio that are being played over the 5 speakers (nothing from the sub)? Maybe I'll post a separate thread to see if anyone else has noticed the same thing with this disc.

I'm almost tempted to get the stereo SACD of Heartbeat City after your endorsement. I don't think my hearing is good enough at this point (too many concerts/loud music) to really appreciate higher sonic qualities and so I probably won't get it unless I find it really cheap somewhere.
Your copy of "The Captain and Me" is stereo as reported by your Oppo. Check your sound mode setting on your Yamaha again. Perhaps it's set for some upmixing sound mode (i.e., some Yamaha DSP effect, or DSU, or DTS Neural:X).

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That's an interesting idea about the quad mix. It shows as "stereo" on my Oppo so I don't know how to reconcile that with the audio from the speakers, where it seems the vocals are higher in the center, and some L and R differences too. I didn't have any faux surround processing being done by my AVR. But if the Oppo shows "stereo" then doesn't that mean it's detecting/receiving just two channels of audio that are being played over the 5 speakers (nothing from the sub)? Maybe I'll post a separate thread to see if anyone else has noticed the same thing with this disc.

I'm almost tempted to get the stereo SACD of Heartbeat City after your endorsement. I don't think my hearing is good enough at this point (too many concerts/loud music) to really appreciate higher sonic qualities and so I probably won't get it unless I find it really cheap somewhere.
I reached out to a buddy of mine who has both the DVD-A and SACD multichannel copies of "The Captain and Me". He checked and they both have true 5.1 mixes.

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Wowza! I just realized you started this thread on 9-13-2007!

Delayed thanks on starting this great thread!
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Your copy of "The Captain and Me" is stereo as reported by your Oppo. Check your sound mode setting on your Yamaha again. Perhaps it's set for some upmixing sound mode (i.e., some Yamaha DSP effect, or DSU, or DTS Neural:X).

If it were a quad recording, then sound should come from your LF, RF, LR, RR speakers only. No center, no sub.
Thanks, I guess that must be it. I'll have to check the settings but I'm sure you're right.

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Cool, thanks. I'll have to keep a look out for the MC SACD.

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Wowza! I just realized you started this thread on 9-13-2007!

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It's almost been a decade now... crazy! I started my home theater and SACD craze in 2007 all thanks to my v1.0 PS3 that could play blu-ray and SACD. Sadly, my collection has only about doubled since then, of course that's mostly due to the lack of new releases. Including classical I have probably have almost 100 discs, mostly SACD and a couple BD now. No DVD-A for some reason. Seems like SACD is mostly dead now (not counting classical) but at least blu-ray is keeping HR/MC alive.
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Darn, I guess I got the 2017 stereo SACD, but it doesn't sound like stereo. Vocals mostly from center channel, less from L and R so it can't be stereo I don't think, but then again the listing shows stereo and my Oppo does too. Bizarre...


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Thanks, I guess that must be it. I'll have to check the settings but I'm sure you're right.



Cool, thanks. I'll have to keep a look out for the MC SACD.



It's almost been a decade now... crazy! I started my home theater and SACD craze in 2007 all thanks to my v1.0 PS3 that could play blu-ray and SACD. Sadly, my collection has only about doubled since then, of course that's mostly due to the lack of new releases. Including classical I have probably have almost 100 discs, mostly SACD and a couple BD now. No DVD-A for some reason. Seems like SACD is mostly dead now (not counting classical) but at least blu-ray is keeping HR/MC alive.
I listened to the 5.1 DVD-A of "The Captain and Me". Great mix and use of surround channels. Excellent clarity.

I did some research. The 5.1 SACD of "The Captain and Me" is priced fairly high. HOWEVER, I found a reasonable price (IMO) on the 5.1 DVD-A version. If you really want it, I recommend you grab it: http://www.ebay.com/itm/DOOBIE-BROS-...0AAOSw3h1ZQvw~

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I listened to the 5.1 DVD-A of "The Captain and Me". Great mix and use of surround channels. Excellent clarity.

I did some research. The 5.1 SACD of "The Captain and Me" is priced fairly high. HOWEVER, I found a reasonable price (IMO) on the 5.1 DVD-A version. If you really want it, I recommend you grab it: http://www.ebay.com/itm/DOOBIE-BROS-...0AAOSw3h1ZQvw~

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Thanks a lot! I ended up purchasing it since a reasonably priced SACD is going to be hard to find. It'll also be my first DVD-A. I'm a bit nervous about the condition but I've found that SACD usually are taken care of better than regular CDs so I'm hopeful.
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Noticed that Spirit has a SACD coming out 7/7. The Family that Plays Together. I'll probably get it although, I'd much rather have Twelve Dreams of Dr. Sardonicus released on SACD.
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Noticed that Spirit has a SACD coming out 7/7. The Family that Plays Together. I'll probably get it although, I'd much rather have Twelve Dreams of Dr. Sardonicus released on SACD.
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I browsed a few other threads and ended up ordering Anathema-The Optimist and Kraftwerk-3D Catalogue!

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^^ Oh and Marillion's Misplaced Childhood, Steve Wilson Mix!

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Hi guys, where are you all buying your SACD's from that's reasonably priced?

I'm looking for Pink Floyd Dark Side of the Moon for starters. Down side is I don't do eBay due to PP as I don't care for them and probably never will.

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I'm looking for Pink Floyd Dark Side of the Moon for starters. Down side is I don't do eBay due to PP as I don't care for them and probably never will.

Thanks in advance.
For me, I end up buying most of my items from Amazon.ca, being in Canada and the dollar so low it usually works out to about the same or slightly more through Amazon.ca. I also get the benefit of next day delivery, which is not always important, however a nice to have.

There are sites like Discogs.com, store.acousticsounds.com, importcds.com that are great places to shop as well.

If there is a disc that you like from this thread please ask where to buy it and we will always let you know where to go or provide a link.

Pink Floyd's DSOM does come up quite often in the used markets and I bought my copy for $20 and ended up with a second copy in a package deal I got. There is a local store here that has a copy for $30. You need to look around is what I have learned from being on this thread and on the other hand have paid top dollar for certain discs that were must haves for me.

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I'm looking for Pink Floyd Dark Side of the Moon for starters. Down side is I don't do eBay due to PP as I don't care for them and probably never will.

Thanks in advance.
I've gotten most of my SACD (and blu-ray audio, etc.) from Amazon when they're in print. Also, bought most of my Depeche Mode (when in print) from importcds.com I think. For OOP stuff, I've mostly gotten them from ebay, which is really the best place to find them. Sometimes 3rd party sellers on Amazon sell them for reasonable prices, but nowadays it seems like good deals are rarely found there. Sometimes I've gotten them from other country Amazons (Canada, UK, Japan). Try amazon.co.jp for sure as they have very reasonable shipping to the U.S. that is super fast and reasonably priced (I think $5-6 for delivery in 3 days), at least when I got a SACD there a week ago.

In any case, DSotM is my all time favorite SACD/surround disc and so I would recommend biting the bullet and getting a new copy on ebay. FYI, on ebay you can now pay directly with a CC on ebay and not use PayPal, if that makes a difference. There's a copy for $65 on ebay with "best offer" so you could probably get it for $60, which seems a reasonable price. The most I've paid for any SACD (single disc) is $75 for T Rex's Electric Warrior, which is also pretty awesome and highly recommended.
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For me, I end up buying most of my items from Amazon.ca, being in Canada and the dollar so low it usually works out to about the same or slightly more through Amazon.ca. I also get the benefit of next day delivery, which is not always important, however a nice to have.

There are sites like Discogs.com, store.acousticsounds.com, importcds.com that are great places to shop as well.

If there is a disc that you like from this thread please ask where to buy it and we will always let you know where to go or provide a link.

Pink Floyd's DSOM does come up quite often in the used markets and I bought my copy for $20 and ended up with a second copy in a package deal I got. There is a local store here that has a copy for $30. You need to look around is what I have learned from being on this thread and on the other hand have paid top dollar for certain discs that were must haves for me.

Let us know what you are looking for in particular and we will help.
Thanks greatly for the info, I'll check out the sites you listed.
Currently I'm seeking Pink Floyd's DSOM to begin my start of the SACD collection. That seems to be a highly recommended CD to have and since I'm a big classic rock fan it'll fit right in.

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Thanks greatly for the info, I'll check out the sites you listed.
Currently I'm seeking Pink Floyd's DSOM to begin my start of the SACD collection. That seems to be a highly recommended CD to have and since I'm a big classic rock fan it'll fit right in.
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