Originally Posted by Jet Jockey
But that's only one test. What if that unit was defective? Testing equipment with test gear is fine but listening to it in a proper room with actual music or in a movie are two different things.
I have read and seen too many things over the years for me just to believe at looking at numbers to judge things. Why do CD players sound differently yet they read the same source and on paper they have almost identical specs. Same thing can be said of the wiring in a system ect.
Power amps all sound different yet some have the same specs, why?
BTW, you can say the same things about cars. Simply testing them with test gear doesn't actually give you the complete picture. I could go on here but I don't want to rely on only one review with rather negative results that didn't even listen to the darn sub in a proper system with a proper set up.
Like Steve, many reviews written about this sub are nothing short of very positive. I can't believe they are way out in left field on this sub.
Maybe the best solution is to test both the Velodyne SPL 1200R and the REL R 305 in my room and decide afterwards.
Then of course I could always stop beating around the buss and buy a Wilson Watch Dog and be done with it! I wonder if it will fit between my mains and centre channel. Besides I really wanted a dual or stereo sub set up. I can't afford two Watch Dogs Too bad!
Ilkka tested the REL almost 2 years ago. If the unit that Ilkka tested was defective, the honchos at REL should have been all over these test results.
Tom Nousaine, who has professionally tested more than 250 subwoofers received a defective JL Audio F112. When JL Audio executives saw the results, they contacted Tom Nousaine who confirmed that the unit in question had been shipped multiple times and had sustained some damage.
TN tested the REL 305 in the October 2006 issue of Sound & Vision. It is a little hard to compare the results because TN tests indoors in his 7,500 cubic foot room.
Still, TN says the REL 305 "...lacks dynamic capability and cannot produce 25Hz without 20% distortion."
TN had to rate the 305 from 32-62 Hz, unlike most of the other subs he has tested due to the very high amount of distortion below 32 Hz. Most ot the other subs are rated from 25Hz-62Hz.http://www.soundandvisionmag.com/spe...er-system.html
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Here is the link to all ~250 sub tests by Tom Nousaine.http://home.comcast.net/~frank_carter/Nousaine.htm
It looks like the Velodyne SPL-1200R is the better choice. You may very well like the Velodyne, especially if you want deeper response.
But if funds are not a problem, a pair of JL Audio F112 will be truly superior.