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I got the A2-300 a couple of weeks ago and I am blown away. This is pound for pound the best sub I have ever heard. Tight bass, no boomy bass like other cheapo subs I've tested and I've tested out my fare share of subs. Hearing is believing on this puppy. The sub blends in perfectly with the rest of the system. Even at half the volume the whole apartment shakes!

When I first saw the beast come out of the box I thought it was a mistake cause this thing is MASSIVE! I had saw the dimensions before I bought it but in real life it looks ginormous. This is a rock solid man-speaker. Not pretty but does what it is supposed to extremely well. I was wondering what the guys at ED were doing for a month getting this thing out. Now I know

Question: People keep sitting on the poor sub thinking its some kinda chair....will this damage it?
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They might damage your floor if you're using the spikes.

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Slap that puppy on the foam it comes with.. My a2 is jamming to devildriver right now. I should have ordered 2.. I listen to **** really loud. My ears have a constant hiss/ring if that tells you anything =)

Why do you let people sit on it? Buy some cheap chairs.

I like sticking my cat into the port.. Does this make it a sealed enclosure while he is in there?

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I have good carpet, so it won't damage the floor

I'll be moving the beast behind the couch so that no one can see it
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Slap that puppy on the foam it comes with.. My a2 is jamming to devildriver right now. I should have ordered 2.. I listen to **** really loud. My ears have a constant hiss/ring if that tells you anything =)

Why do you let people sit on it? Buy some cheap chairs.

I like sticking my cat into the port.. Does this make it a sealed enclosure while he is in there?

LOL!
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I upgraded to a A2-300 from a crappy Infinity sub and the difference in sound quality was massive. 90% of my use out of my hometheater setup is for movies/tv and the A2-300 really delivers with strong bass for action sequences.

For music, the A2-300 is a bit underpowered for real thumping bass unless you jack up the gain level for music. But if I feel I need some more bass for music down the road I'll just buy a 2nd A2-300.

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I too am lookin at the A2 or A3 from ED. Aren't those down firing subs, meaning the sound goes into the floor rather than forward pointing?

Also, the room I'm putting the HT system in is a large 27 by 22, but the listening area (i.e., where the front 3 and rear 2 in ceiling speakers will go) is about 11 by 18. Is the A2, A3 or either of the Klipsch RW12d or RW10d more than enough for the listening area?

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If the area that the listening area opens up to is 27 X 22 then you might want the A3-300 so you have the extra power in case your space is hard to fill. I'd stay away from Klipsch subs because they aren't anywhere near as good for the money as eD subs are.

What is your budget?

Also, what you could do is get an A2-300 and see if it gives you enough bass response for your room. If it does then all is well, but if it doesn't you can just get another A2-300 down the road so you have 2 subs for your hometheater working together.

If you have the room for 2 subs you would probably be happier with two A2-300 subs for $630 rather than 1 A3-300 sub for $500.

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Their sale is one for $315, two for $600. I own an A2-300, and my neighbors always ask me to turn it down when they're having parties because it drowns out their music. :P

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If the area that the listening area opens up to is 27 X 22 then you might want the A3-300 so you have the extra power in case your space is hard to fill. I'd stay away from Klipsch subs because they aren't anywhere near as good for the money as eD subs are.

What is your budget?

Also, what you could do is get an A2-300 and see if it gives you enough bass response for your room. If it does then all is well, but if it doesn't you can just get another A2-300 down the road so you have 2 subs for your hometheater working together.

If you have the room for 2 subs you would probably be happier with two A2-300 subs for $630 rather than 1 A3-300 sub for $500.

I don't want to spend more than $400 - $500. What support does ED give?
I've read that they're a new company. Will they be around to support their product? Also, the Klipsch advertises their rw 10d at 575 watts vs. the A2-300 at 200 watts - what gives?
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I am guessing the 575watts is not continuous.. The ed will rape the klipsch sub. The ed is on another level..

frequency response 28-120Hz +/-3dB-rw 10d

The ed goes down to 18hz.

Ed has great support.

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I don't want to spend more than $400 - $500. What support does ED give?
I've read that they're a new company. Will they be around to support their product? Also, the Klipsch advertises their rw 10d at 575 watts vs. the A2-300 at 200 watts - what gives?

eD has great customer support. They are always ready and willing to help you and if something goes wrong with their products they always take care of their customers. I can't think of one instance I have read about where their support didn't help someone with a problem.

And yeah, the Klipsch has a bigger amp but it only goes down to 28Hz whereas the eD goes down to 18Hz. The eD is a WAY better sub than the Klipsch.

If you can spend $500, I'd go with the A3-300 with upgraded driver. That way you have plenty of headroom to work with in your pretty open room layout.

If you would rather spend the $315 for the A2-300 then you could see if it is powerful enough for your room and down the line and a few paychecks later you could get a 2nd A2-300 if you need more bass.

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I don't want to spend more than $400 - $500. What support does ED give?
I've read that they're a new company. Will they be around to support their product? Also, the Klipsch advertises their rw 10d at 575 watts vs. the A2-300 at 200 watts - what gives?

Haven't heard the Klipsch but the A2 is just phenomenal. I wouldn't go with 2 A2 because they are huge. I'd go with the A3. Have you had a chance to test out the Klipsch at a store?
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Haven't heard the Klipsch but the A2 is just phenomenal. I wouldn't go with 2 A2 because they are huge. I'd go with the A3. Have you had a chance to test out the Klipsch at a store?

If you can manage to place 2 subs in a large room then it will be easier to get a bigger sweet spot for the listening position(s). The A3-300 is great but if he can afford it and have the space for 2 largish subs then 2 A2-300s would probably sound better in tandem. You can put one close to the listening position to allow the listeners to be in the close proximity resonance field of one and then place the other along the wall to fill the space.

But if you only have room for 1 sub then get the A3-300

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I have 2 a2 300s .does anyone get on here anymore? I have a few questions.
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I'm on here! I have one and am about to receive another. biggrin.gif FANTASTIC subs.

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You're right! They are great subs. But i was wondering i have a problem with one. I keep blowing caps on one of them. Do you have any issues with yours?
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Haven't had any issues with mine. You might try checking the official Elemental Designs thread on here. I know there's great info in there for repairing the eD a2-300. You could always use an external amp.

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Haven't had any issues with mine. You might try checking the official Elemental Designs thread on here. I know there's great info in there for repairing the eD a2-300. You could always use an external amp.
i have. And what kind of external amp do you recommend? And if i had to replace the driver which one do you think? Think I'm having driver issues that's causing the amp to blow caps. Ain't sure though.
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Personally I would (and plan to) build a little enclosure for a Dayton or Bash amp. For driver I'd go with a Dayton Classic 4ohm 12" on partsexpress, which is actually the driver eD used for a lot of the a2-300's.

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Personally I would (and plan to) build a little enclosure for a Dayton or Bash amp. For driver I'd go with a Dayton Classic 4ohm 12" on partsexpress, which is actually the driver eD used for a lot of the a2-300's.
can you seems me that
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Can you send me that link for the driver on parts express?
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You got it. smile.gif

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Thanks. I already looked at that driver. Its rated at 4ohms and isn't the a2-300 8ohms? Also its rated for 250 Watts & 500 Watts max. Isn't the a2-300 300 Watts and 600 Watts max?
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Hmm, I'm pretty sure the a2-300 is 4ohm and 250 watt rms.

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Ok... Thanks.... I didn't know. Are you pretty sure or do you know for sure?
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Thanks Blake. I didn't know. I've also been looking at a jlaudio woofer. The jl12wov
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I've been considering putting some TC Sounds Epic drivers in my dual a2-300's.

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