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nice but i think you need bigger subs

already in the planning stage

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already in the planning stage

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Might want to seismically retrofit your house first...
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Might want to seismically retrofit your house first...

my house hates me...prolly neighbors too

was playing kungfu panda yesterday 10dB higher than my usual (-15dB to -5dB). tried to catch the cone action during the skidoosh scene, does not show the excursion too well...here is 1 out of the 4 subs - it feels good



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some 5 Hz cone action from the f-irene scene




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Hey Slowcar, what kind of spl are you getting on that scene?
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Hey Slowcar, what kind of spl are you getting on that scene?

i dont know....i just crank it up till it feels right

i'll try to bring a sound pressure meter from work this week and measure it


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the unit we have at work is NIST traceble...shuld be accurate

i dont know if that thing will even measure it....i cannot hear it, but you feel this throbbing pulse in the chest and the walls move insync with the speaker cone


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i dont know....i just crank it up till it feels right

i'll try to bring a sound pressure meter from work this week and measure it

But then it will be a mix of upper bass freqs + I don't think the SPL meter is calibrated that low. Unless it is a known reference, say the ubiquitous RS meter (ignoring the few dB variance bt units).

You should see Ricci's RE sub. Anyway me thinks you are headed towards this way.....

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crazy cone excursions!! lucky i believe speakers should stay at home b/c i like my car fast...Zoom zooM


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Slowcar - As mains, the CS2's and triple-8's obviously have a lot of work to do trying to keep up with your subs. In an earlier post, you indicated that you were impressed with CS2's wide soundstage compared to the JTR's. Do you have any "quick first impressions" as to how the CS2's compare from a dynamics, headroom perspective?

I just finished up a 4x18" IB and both the JTR's and CS2's are on my shortlist of new mains.

Thanks,
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but i have to wait a few weeks before i get to set them up as i am moving



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but i have to wait a few weeks before i get to set them up as i am moving

Well get to work loading up and moving cuz we want to see your new setup. Just kidding. Seriously though, hope you enjoy your new place. Take care.
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i will let the movers deal with that...putting the 4 subs into the box ALMOST wrecked my back

the new place is 8000miles away, havent seen it...we'll see


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Slowcar - As mains, the CS2's and triple-8's obviously have a lot of work to do trying to keep up with your subs. In an earlier post, you indicated that you were impressed with CS2's wide soundstage compared to the JTR's. Do you have any "quick first impressions" as to how the CS2's compare from a dynamics, headroom perspective?

I just finished up a 4x18" IB and both the JTR's and CS2's are on my shortlist of new mains.

Thanks,
Steve

oops, missed your post somehow

the emerald physics are dipoles...they need breathing room in the back...

the jtrs you can placed them as closed to the back wall

i went with emerald physics because i do not use the subs for 2ch music b/c they are full range. both the jtr and cs2 or the latest cs2.3 are very efficient and should be able to startle you with plenty of dynamics


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but i have to wait a few weeks before i get to set them up as i am moving


Did your neighbors unite and drive you out? I'm sure it was only a matter of time with the quads shaking their houses.
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Slowcar,
How would you compare the JTRs (12LF) and emeralds for music? Their different strengths and weaknesses? We are talking heavy music, not classical etc.
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the new place is 8000miles away, havent seen it...we'll see

Ok, I hope I can visit you soon. Let me know....

So the new CS2.3, the 4 x 15" will be crossed over at 100Hz. I guess you would be crossing over to the ULS-15 at 40Hz?
Or you wanna mess with the xover pts, and risk messing more up...
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Did your neighbors unite and drive you out? I'm sure it was only a matter of time with the quads shaking their houses.

lol, no. moving because i got a new job


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How would you compare the JTRs (12LF) and emeralds for music? Their different strengths and weaknesses? We are talking heavy music, not classical etc.

i only got 1 12LF i use as a cc and a pair of CS2 for mains - all i can say is they work seamlessly and presents a BIG soundstage.

i really cannot think of any weakness for the 2 other than they are big and heavy, the CS2 needs room in the back as it is a dipole. I do not listen to much heavy music on the setup - but a lot of blurays...these speakers will play beyond what my ears can handle without any signs of strain


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Ok, I hope I can visit you soon. Let me know....

So the new CS2.3, the 4 x 15" will be crossed over at 100Hz. I guess you would be crossing over to the ULS-15 at 40Hz?
Or you wanna mess with the xover pts, and risk messing more up...

come visit!!

i dont know what xover points i will set them to yet...i'll level match the subs @listening position, calibrate the system with Audyssey then play with xover points to see what sounds best


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Any suggestions on whether the JTR or the emeralds would be a better choice for heavy music? Electronic/Industrial in particular.
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Any suggestions on whether the JTR or the emeralds would be a better choice for heavy music? Electronic/Industrial in particular.

For heavier music, I'd add a Growler subwoofer while not popular in the HT world, its awesome for heavier music.

A pair of Triple 8's, pair of Growlers and about a 1kilowatt to each will give to that rock concert sound.
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For heavier music, I'd add a Growler subwoofer while not popular in the HT world, its awesome for heavier music.

A pair of Triple 8's, pair of Growlers and about a 1kilowatt to each will give to that rock concert sound.

The kilowatt recommendation made me realize something. Even though I haven't been in this hobby for very long, it seems like the introduction of pro audio products has completely redefined extreme. This might just be me but I used to believe 400 or so watts from an amp and 100-105db output was very serious stuff. The products from JTR, Seaton, Danley etc. laugh at those numbers and go well beyond anything I've yet heard.

Jeff, are you saying that rock music doesn't go below the 35-40hz range and that's why the Growler works so well in that application?
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The kilowatt recommendation made me realize something. Even though I haven't been in this hobby for very long, it seems like the introduction of pro audio products has completely redefined extreme. This might just be me but I used to believe 400 or so watts from an amp and 100-105db output was very serious stuff. The products from JTR, Seaton, Danley etc. laugh at those numbers and go well beyond anything I've yet heard.

Jeff, are you saying that rock music doesn't go below the 35-40hz range and that's why the Growler works so well in that application?

I really hate it when people try to put words in my mouth

The Growler is a great sounding subwoofer that produces very tight/clean bass and is used by many live sound providers and DJ's.
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I really hate it when people try to put words in my mouth

The Growler is a great sounding subwoofer that produces very tight/clean bass and is used by many live sound providers and DJ's.

Sorry, wasn't at all trying to put words in your mouth it's just that I've read others state that the Growler doesn't play low enough to be a stand alone sub and that's why I made the assumption that I did. Sorry for the confusion.
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Hey Slowcar,

Have you set-up the new CS2.3?

I was contemplating picking up the CS2.3 or a pair of JTR Triple12HT but thought I would ask someone who has both.

You should refresh this thread with some new pics of your set-up.

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