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Old 06-10-2015, 06:09 PM
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Does he regret his decision?

If not, why break what isn't broken?
His decision isn't the only concern. Don't want potential buyers to expect things to shake in a 25x30 room with a kitchen and hallway attached.
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Old 06-10-2015, 06:15 PM
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His decision isn't the only concern. Don't want potential buyers to expect things to shake in a 25x30 room with a kitchen and hallway attached.
Understood.

(Maybe he has some really loose fixtures.)
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No question.

But, not everyone needs a sports car.

(In some jurisdictions, the maximum highway speed is only ~60 mph.)

I don't need a sports car. My point should have been obvious in that respect. (and BTW, I have the most fun in mine well under 60 MPH, especially on twisty mountain roads.)


No one needs a subwoofer either. (Any subwoofer, not just good ones) Your argument about need is the straw man here. The OP's comments were about desire, not need, and how sometimes you don't really understand something until you experience it.


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Word of advice that will save you lots of $$$ in the future......never audition or even go near a true subwoofer, one that can deliver down to 20Hz or lower. You will likely have a strong desire to upgrade.
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Hey guys, so I've had this sub for about 4 years now and I couldn't be happier. The one thing though, is that it is a little boomy for music. Would getting a second one, placed on the wall behind my couch (The other one is in front) and switching the phase of each to a different position help with this boomyness? I would calibrate them with my SPL meter beforehand.
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Just received my BIC F12 from Parts-Express today. Was super excited to hook it up and test it out. Unfortunately, I think it is broken. It powers on, but I am not able to get any sound out of it at all. I have it hooked up to the sub out on my Yamaha receiver, have tried multiple cables, made sure the sub was enabled and set all of my other speakers to small. Crossover is set super high on the receiver and the sub, the switch is set to the LFE/Digital side. I have also tried hooking up my iPhone directly to it to see if it was the receiver. Still nothing. One thing I noticed was that in the Auto position, the light is always green as if it is detecting a signal, even with nothing plugged in to the input. Any suggestions to try before I start an exchange with Parts-Express?

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Just received my BIC F12 from Parts-Express today. Was super excited to hook it up and test it out. Unfortunately, I think it is broken. It powers on, but I am not able to get any sound out of it at all. I have it hooked up to the sub out on my Yamaha receiver, have tried multiple cables, made sure the sub was enabled and set all of my other speakers to small. Crossover is set super high on the receiver and the sub, the switch is set to the LFE/Digital side. I have also tried hooking up my iPhone directly to it to see if it was the receiver. Still nothing. One thing I noticed was that in the Auto position, the light is always green as if it is detecting a signal, even with nothing plugged in to the input. Any suggestions to try before I start an exchange with Parts-Express?
Tried the test tone in your Yamaha?
What happens when you run YPAO?
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Tried the test tone in your Yamaha?
What happens when you run YPAO?
I did both. No response either way. I tried the high level inputs with another amp I have and that didn't work either. I think it is a bad unit. I will contact Parts-Express tomorrow about an exchange I think.

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I think it is a bad unit. I will contact Parts-Express tomorrow about an exchange I think.
Agreed.
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Just received my BIC F12 from Parts-Express today. Was super excited to hook it up and test it out. Unfortunately, I think it is broken. It powers on, but I am not able to get any sound out of it at all. I have it hooked up to the sub out on my Yamaha receiver, have tried multiple cables, made sure the sub was enabled and set all of my other speakers to small. Crossover is set super high on the receiver and the sub, the switch is set to the LFE/Digital side. I have also tried hooking up my iPhone directly to it to see if it was the receiver. Still nothing. One thing I noticed was that in the Auto position, the light is always green as if it is detecting a signal, even with nothing plugged in to the input. Any suggestions to try before I start an exchange with Parts-Express?
Do you have another sub that worked previously with that receiver? I ask because there are countless threads about Yamaha receivers and failing pre-outs. I know on my Yamaha, the pre-out voltage is abysmal, though even if yours is just low it should still be able to send max signal for that sub.
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Do you have another sub that worked previously with that receiver? I ask because there are countless threads about Yamaha receivers and failing pre-outs. I know on my Yamaha, the pre-out voltage is abysmal, though even if yours is just low it should still be able to send max signal for that sub.
Tried it with my phone and also another amp. Don't have another sub to test with. It is on its way back to Ohio.

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Tried it with my phone and also another amp. Don't have another sub to test with. It is on its way back to Ohio.
These speakers sometimes have a wire wiggle loose inside during shipping. Not a big deal, but it can be a pain.

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Glad you're happy.
But I have to say those are not typical results. A good reason to gather a lot of opinions before buying.
WRONG Bond, I and numerous others have discussed house shaking and windows rattling and so on... Maybe you don't have the right stuff when it comes to setting up a sub, you're far too busy posting negatives to other here to learn how to set up your sub. I have a large room and the F12 after a few years still has the ability to 'shake' the house and have my neighbours comment that I must have had a party last night!
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WRONG Bond, I and numerous others have discussed house shaking and windows rattling and so on... Maybe you don't have the right stuff when it comes to setting up a sub, you're far too busy posting negatives to other here to learn how to set up your sub. I have a large room and the F12 after a few years still has the ability to 'shake' the house and have my neighbours comment that I must have had a party last night!
Another good reason to gather a lot of opinions before buying.
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