Now...pricing. $188 is the current price for the F12 on Amazon. Is this about what it averages or does it ever drop much lower? I'm trying to keep around a 1k budget but it looks I'm going to go over.
I watched the F12 prices for about 6 months before I pulled the trigger. I even waited through the holidays hoping for a year-end sale. No such luck. The lowest I saw it go was $180 with free shipping on Amazon. Sears had it listed for $150, but shipping put it closer to $200 out of pocket. I ended up purchasing at the current price on Amazon when I got a gift card.
"I don't think hearing a sub in a store can give you a true represantation. Who knows what crappy settings it had feeding it."
If you read any of the threads in this forum where the PSW10 is even mentioned, universal opinion is not to waste the money on it. The so called "great" reviews on Amazon and newegg are from novices who have never heard a truly "good" sub. Regardless of the setup, I stand by my original statement. That Polk sub is garbage.
Anyhow, I think you will be happy with the BIC.
I'm fully aware of the opinion on the PSW10. I don't read reviews from sites that sell what is being reviewed. I'm saying that to say it's "garbage" when you have not owned one is moot.
I had Bic F12 and as great as they are for the money, others will call it "garbage" compare to their $500 sub.
If the op can swing for the F12, then it's a no brainer as I have owned both. The F12 as a bigger driver, more output and will dig lower.
I have the F12 and I also have a Outlaw LFM-1EX and I would not say the F12 is garbage! Sometimes it will surprise you, just needs to be adjusted properly ! High volume however is where you lose it!
lol, I'm not saying they are garbage. I was just illustrating a point. Like I wouldn't comment on the LFM-1EX as I never owned one. When I had my F12s, I was told they were garbage though.
The only reason I don't have them anymore is because a few months back, somebody came over to buy a receiver I had for sale and when I demoed the receiver with Terminator Salvation, the guy was so impressed with the F12s that he offered me ,on the spot, more than what I paid for them
You mean you've swapped the F12 amp for something else? You've had it longer than 5 years? It's warrantied for 5 years, you could have sent it back for a replacement, no charge, now I don't think so! Solder in some chips... are you nuts or am I reading this wrong?
Yea im nuts lol, mostly an excuse for more power lol. I actually replaced the fuse with a larger one (2A instead of the 1.6A), and i think thats why it burnt up rather then just popping. So i wasnt going to scam bic out of a new amp.
I did end up dropping a bit on components to i guess rebuild the bic lol. A new sub and a pr should give me pretty good extension down into the teens so im happy with the modeling.
Wasnt my idea of how i wanted to make it work, but i dont have alot of tools for wood working and didnt want to spend a arm and a leg on a custom box.
I have done the auduessey tuning and all my spearkers do sound balanced.
Set one x-over or the other. The auduessey should have a setting for it. If you set it there, then it will take control to distro the upper signals to the other speakers. If you do this, then crank your bic xover all the way up. This will let any signal (provided its under the max setting), go into the sub amp. The reciver xover is prob alot better then the bic plate amp so id trust that.
How quiet can this thing play? I have a shared wall with an apartment neighbor and wouldn't want too much sound leaking through it.
As quiet as you want it to. You can turn it down low enough so that it's barely doing anything. I've got a townhouse and I've got it adjusted so it isn't very loud during normal watching, but when I put a movie on I can just crank the dial a little and get it to shake the walls.
I jumped on Amazon's price of $188 for the F12 last week to finish off my new setup and man-o-man does this thing kick. Thanks to everyone in this thread (and others) that said what a solid sub this is.
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Alright thanks. Would the absolute lowest volume on the bic sub still overpower the bass output from bookshelves at a low-medium listening level?
If you put it to the lowest volume you won't hear anything. My wife doesn't like a lot of bass (even during movies) so I turn it down significantly when we're watching something together. It's easy enough to make it more or less disappear if you want to.
Thinking about getting this for my brother's birthday. Is it a good price? (I don't really know anything about subs) Thanks!
For the price, it's the best sub you can buy.
I just installed this in a small living room for a second system, and it sounds great. Does it compare to my $2,200 Seaton Submersive? Hell no. The F12 is a perfect budget buy for someone looking to fill a small / mid size room with good bass. It is a much better value than my flagship sub, but don't expect it to even come close in performance. It does compare to big brand name subs around the $299-399 price range however.
i've been looking to upgrade my 15(ish) year old paradigm PS1200. would this be a noticeable upgrade or should i consider something else? i don't want to spend much more than $350 on a sub, but $188 would be great if this would be a decent upgrade.
first i set the volume on back of the sub to 3.5
audyssey set the sub at -12 and around 15 feet or so distance.
so i lowered the volume to 3. i reran audyssey again to try and get as close to 0 as i can.
audyssey then set the sub to -12 (again?!?) and distance was like 24 feet
not sure if anythings wrong but it stayed at -12. should i lower the sub volume to 2.5? that seems pretty low or maybe i just got a defective sub. i hate rerunning audyssey if its just gonna stay at -12