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post #2851 of 2865 Old 08-28-2014, 10:17 AM
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They are from China. It doesn't take much to overstress a 100 watt amp with a subwoofer. You played them too loud. You chose the wrong product for the purpose.
BIC products are all designed and engineered in America in 1973.
I play my stuff at moderate levels.

Shows what you know smart one.

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BIC products are all designed and engineered in America in 1973.
I play my stuff at moderate levels.

Shows what you know smart one.
Designed and engineered I dont doubt. But most American electronics companies buy their parts from overseas and assemble the product here. If you dig deep enough you would probably find that almost nothing in the Bic products is made in America.
Rhythmik is a American company and even their cabinets are made in China.

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Designed and engineered I dont doubt. But most American electronics companies buy their parts from overseas and assemble the product here. If you dig deep enough you would probably find that almost nothing in the Bic products is made in America.
Rhythmik is a American company and even their cabinets are made in China.
Point of the matter is they are from America in which I stated

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Ya I've owned F12's one broke down in 3 months had to go through hell to get sent another one. 2nd one died after 1 year.
They are from America, I would have hoped they'd actually build better products than this.
Absolutely hate that company!
I bought one years ago, still have it, still love it, for my theatre viewing as well as music. Maybe you people just don't know how to set it up properly or you drive it past clipping, at which point it doesn't matter which sub you buy, you clip it long enough, it dies. Of course a $1,000 sub wouldn't need to be driven as hard as the F12 but I've cranked the crap out of mine many times, music and movies and no problems. Very happy with it never any issues, more than I can say for some of you!
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Had mine for many years. It's been kind to me but I can't say the same for me to it. Audessy has me running it with the gain at about 2 and it will hang with me as loud and as hard as I can push it. I will forever recommend the f12 as THE best budget sub one can buy. Of course, YMMV.
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Very happy with it never any issues, more than I can say for some of you!
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Their subs are not good, If you make it past 5 years with one I'd be really shocked and amazed!

Subwoofers are bass specialists. If they could wear a hardhat and carry a clipboard, they would.
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Their subs are not good, If you make it past 5 years with one I'd be really shocked and amazed!
Omg. U don't like the sub. We get it already. Geez.
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Omg. U don't like the sub. We get it already. Geez.
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Ya I've owned F12's one broke down in 3 months had to go through hell to get sent another one. 2nd one died after 1 year.
They are from America, I would have hoped they'd actually build better products than this.
Absolutely hate that company!
Hmmm? In July 2014 u ask if this is a good sub... http://www.avsforum.com/forum/113-subwoofers-bass-transducers/1622146-bic-f12-crossover-advice.html#post26155554

Now u say u have owned 2?
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I bought one years ago, still have it, still love it, for my theatre viewing as well as music. Maybe you people just don't know how to set it up properly or you drive it past clipping, at which point it doesn't matter which sub you buy, you clip it long enough, it dies. Of course a $1,000 sub wouldn't need to be driven as hard as the F12 but I've cranked the crap out of mine many times, music and movies and no problems. Very happy with it never any issues, more than I can say for some of you!
I ran an F12 for two years in my setup and drove it pretty hard. I never had an issue with it and thought that it was a very solid budget subwoofer. My F12 is in my Dad's system now and continues to run strong.
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Great sub for what it is: budget product for use in smaller rooms played at moderate levels. Been running mine daily and have had no problems at all.

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i got two f12's and don't see myself ever replacing them. they do just fine.

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Curious what others have the gain set at on their F12's? I have mine set at 4 gain on the subwoofers and -9db in the receiver. I've seen others have the gain set at 1-2 and the receiver at -1db or 0db. Might play around with it to see which sounds better. Thanks.
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Curious what others have the gain set at on their F12's? I have mine set at 4 gain on the subwoofers and -9db in the receiver. I've seen others have the gain set at 1-2 and the receiver at -1db or 0db. Might play around with it to see which sounds better. Thanks.
Mine too is pretty low...probably around 2 (I'm not home right now to verify exactly). When I run audessy I adust the gain to get as close to 0db as possible then bump it up +3db in the AVR afterwards. At first I thought this would be too low as well but we have to remember, gain is not volume and when the source material calls for it my F12 answers with thunderous bass even at very low gain settings. You're right though, what sounds best to YOU is what's most important!
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Played around with the gain and offset and I've set the gain on the subwoofers to 2 and the offset on the receiver to -1db. Bass seems a bit punchier and tighter from what I've listened to so far.
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