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I am trying to clear this up. To get the "special pricing" at Acousticsounddesign, is calling the toll-free order hotline the only way? I ask because Bing is currently offering cashback of 15% for their online store right now. The "special price" PLUS Bing cashback would make this a real hot buy. That would probably be the kicker to sway my decision to buy this sub.

Hmmmm, to get this BIC PL-200 or grab a Polk PSW505... I have Polks all around (Monitor 50 fronts, Monitor 30 surrounds and a CS10 center) and the PSW505 would match VISUALLY very well.

Is the BIC THAT much better than the Polk?
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If you click the Make Offer button on their site and low ball it (i.e. $250), they come back with the offer of $263 or whatever it is. The downside is you have to use a special link or manual type it in, which means Bing won't work.
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I am trying to clear this up. To get the "special pricing" at Acousticsounddesign, is calling the toll-free order hotline the only way? I ask because Bing is currently offering cashback of 15% for their online store right now. The "special price" PLUS Bing cashback would make this a real hot buy. That would probably be the kicker to sway my decision to buy this sub.

Hmmmm, to get this BIC PL-200 or grab a Polk PSW505... I have Polks all around (Monitor 50 fronts, Monitor 30 surrounds and a CS10 center) and the PSW505 would match VISUALLY very well.

Is the BIC THAT much better than the Polk?

From site:

PLEASE NOTE! - You cannot combine discounts. You cannot use a discount from us in addition to the Bing discount for instance. Discounts can only be used on a per order basis. We reserve the right to alter our discount policy at any time.
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OK, Thanks xceebeex and sully78 for clearing that up. I suspected as much, but it never hurts to try.

After much consideration, research, and reading I think I am going with the PSW505 after all.

Thanks much for all the input in this thread and on these forums in general. There is a WEALTH of information here.
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So after all the research and recommendations you're going with an inferior product?
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So after all the research and recommendations you're going with an inferior product?

Haha, glad I wasn't the first one to say it. I thought it was kinda strange when he said he was going with the Polk as well. Especially with this at $263.
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Following this thread, and the eD thread, I've been lurking in the shadows for months trying to decide which sub was just right for me.

Due to some of the feed back I've read right here, I ordered one @ $269 from acousticsounddesign.com.

Thank you, everyone here that discussed this sub with pluses & minuses.
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Hi all, ordered the PL-76 system with upgrade to PL-200 first week of May, have everything but sub, Eric said it was shipped on Friday the 21st. Is the EQ function in the amp itself (menu), when I press mine it is for adjusting bass. What is a good setting if this is the way to do it. Sub is for dvd and Bluray 99% time. I'm new to HT so I will be happy with any advice that will help. Got mine at Sounddistributors also. One problem with waiting and reading post, hope you didn't make mistake. So far the 76's and 66's sound good, only had it hooked up for a week.

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Anyone have any idea?

On what would win in an spl war, 2x pl-200's, or one 600 dollar range subwoofer
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Ok, so I see this thread was started over a year ago. I read though page 1 and this last page... missing all the filler in-between.

As others who have come across this thread looking for insight into this sub, is it still worth it?

They have a warehouse here in Las Vegas, NV and said they can sell them to me for $250 each (no shipping; pick-up). I was thinking of getting 2 to 4 of them.

Yay or nay? Can they be gotten cheaper since they have been out over a year?

ALSO, I looked at DR. HSU's speaker site and found that this sub is not listed.... any particular reason for this?

Thanks in advance.
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OK, Thanks xceebeex and sully78 for clearing that up. I suspected as much, but it never hurts to try.

After much consideration, research, and reading I think I am going with the PSW505 after all.

Thanks much for all the input in this thread and on these forums in general. There is a WEALTH of information here.

The 505 SUCKS compared to the pl-200. I had both here at the same time as well as an ed a2-300. No if ands or buts. However, that is my opinion only...
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Anyone? Anything?
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Anyone? Anything?

Dr. HSU helped design the subwoofer, he does not sell it himself, this is not technically an HSU sub at all.

$250 each, yes that's a good price, two for $500 is fine, but if you're thinking of 4 ( which is $1000 ), you're looking at another league of sound quality and I would suggest you invest your $1000 in something else.

More subs = more volume but not better sound quality that a more expensive driver can delivery.
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I understand what you are saying and thank you for answering the question. Seeing that the thread started over a year ago encourages me to think that perhaps something better for the price has come out.

Also, volume vs quality, they will be used for HT, but I throw quite a few parties and I like to cover all dead spots. I have the mids and highs to support it no worries. Since this is not a dedicated HT and because I am sure most won't be listening for quality (if they're not too enebriated to comprehend the music), I figured these would not be a bad deal. Thoughts?

And, as for the price, I may be able to get 2 for $400 or 4 for $750-$800. Again, they dropped in price nicely once they knew I could pick them up vs. shipping.
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Oh, and not to side track, but I thought I'd ask... is there a thread about adding a HT AC Amp to Car Audio Speakers (Subs)? I have a few lying around and was thinking it would be fun to add to my garage system.... or who knows, maybe the house. They are actually much better than any or most all HT drivers I've seen on the market.
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200 bucks each is a fantastic deal
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I agree, 4 for $750? That is a GREAT deal. Just grab 4 then for sure.
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thats a great deal. Well, I just got my subwoofer delivered (a few minutes ago). Now to look in this thread for how to set this up. This is my first HT subwoofer. I also need to look up any points on properly using the audyssey auto calibration as for some reason, it puts my center speaker's volume so low (voice is so low that I have to turn it up pass 50 to hear at a reasonable sound but when an explosion comes, it's too loud). Any points to articles I can look. In the meantime, I will search.

Thanks.

EDIT: nevermind, just read through (skimmed) and will test it out and see what's best. Have to youtube subwoofer crawl to see how you do that properly again. but I guess that would be after i find a sweet spot for the settings.
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My PL-200 arrived today as well, and is replacing the last speaker from my Onkyo home theater in a box set. It's a bit larger than I was expecting (even after reading the threads), but it looks great with the piano finished top. It still needs to be tweaked, but so far I am very pleased.
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Hi all, finally received my 200, now my system is set. Watching a Bluray movie with digital optic cable WOW, you can feel the bass and thats with the sub volume below half. No complaints here so far.

Onkyo 818, BIC Acoustech PL-76 5.1 speakers with PL-200 sub, Sony BDS- 590 Blu-ray player.
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Hi all, finally received my 200, now my system is set. Watching a Bluray movie with digital optic cable WOW, you can feel the bass and thats with the sub volume below half. No complaints here so far.

no HDMI connections?
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So has anyone seen what the new pricing is now that we are in June? The last I saw was that the pricing was good through the end of May.
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So after all the research and recommendations you're going with an inferior product?

LOL....I thought the same thing when I read that post...maybe he is in "opposite world" a la Jerry Seinfeld

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yes I have hdmi but to get true 5.1 surround you need fiber optic cables. I purchased monster thx standard 8 ft from Amazon for $16. It is well worth it, a cheap fiber optic cable will not sound as good. Even my wife noticed a huge sound difference between Fiber optic and HDMI.

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yes I have hdmi but to get true 5.1 surround you need fiber optic cables. I purchased monster thx standard 8 ft from Amazon for $16. It is well worth it, a cheap fiber optic cable will not sound as good. Even my wife noticed a huge sound difference between Fiber optic and HDMI.

What? That is incorrect on multiple levels. First, there is virtually zero difference between optical cables since it is a digital signal (light no less). Then on top of that, you most certainly get "true" 5.1 through HDMI. That is the ONLY way you can get HD(TrueHD, DTS-HD, etc) sound from a Blu-Ray, period.
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Hahaha, maybe he needs some of the "HT INMY BLOOD" to seep into his brain...
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I have hdmi hooked up and get better sound from my fiber optic cable through my receiver and it says dts, I don't get that through hdmi, my receiver isnt top of the line that might be why. As far as 5.1 surround I read that in an article and apologize if I was wrong. Here is what I read, In order to setup true 5.1 surround sound, you'll need a surround sound receiver with digital inputs: fiber optic or digial coaxial. Without one of these, you're stuck with stereo surround.
Step 2: Gathering Cables for 5.1 Surround Sound Capability
For an optimal surround sound setup, you'll need the following:

- (1) Fiber optic OR digital coaxial cable


That means you'll get sound from all your speakers, but it will be simulated surround sound. Rather than playing the 5.1 soundtrack on the DVD, your receiver will take the stereo track and decide what to play in the rear speakers. Your subwoofer will be incredibly underused, and you'll end up hearing much of the same out of your front speakers as your rears.
Here is the link http://www.howtohookitup.com/surround_sound.html. Like I said if I was wrong I apologize but did you have to rip me like that, I am new to all of this and do not post something just to throw it out.

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Hi HT INMY BLOOD, HDMI is digital also and the link was dated back in 01/02/08 and should have been updated.

List your bluray player and receiver. New codecs can be played by the bluray player (LPCM) or by the receiver (if capable with the bluray player set to bitstream).
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I have hdmi hooked up and get better sound from my fiber optic cable through my receiver and it says dts, I don't get that through hdmi, my receiver isnt top of the line that might be why. As far as 5.1 surround I read that in an article and apologize if I was wrong. Here is what I read, In order to setup true 5.1 surround sound, you'll need a surround sound receiver with digital inputs: fiber optic or digial coaxial. Without one of these, you're stuck with stereo surround.
Step 2: Gathering Cables for 5.1 Surround Sound Capability
For an optimal surround sound setup, you'll need the following:

- (1) Fiber optic OR digital coaxial cable


That means you'll get sound from all your speakers, but it will be simulated surround sound. Rather than playing the 5.1 soundtrack on the DVD, your receiver will take the stereo track and decide what to play in the rear speakers. Your subwoofer will be incredibly underused, and you'll end up hearing much of the same out of your front speakers as your rears.
Here is the link http://www.howtohookitup.com/surround_sound.html. Like I said if I was wrong I apologize but did you have to rip me like that, I am new to all of this and do not post something just to throw it out.

If you are not getting better sound from your blu-ray player or are getting worse sound from the DVD player through HDMI it is most likely due to the player settings. For example, are you doing LPCM or are you doing Bit stream?
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I think its LPCM, I guess I should change my settings? Thx for the info.

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