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post #1 of 229 Old 06-04-2009, 02:57 PM - Thread Starter
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Hi All,

I need help i am down to these 4 subs and i have no clue which one to get all of them have amazing reviews.

Epik Subwoofers: Conquest Subwoofer:$1'645 Can

SVS Sound: SVS PB13-Ultra: $1'799 Can

HSU research: ULS-15: $1'206 Can

Seaton Submerssive: $1'995

Velodyne DD15 & DD18 $2'100/$2900

Which out of these 4 is king please help These are the 3 best subs out there from what i have found. The reason why JL Audios F113 is not there its too $$$$$

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The Conquest will go louder and deeper than the other two and even the JL F113. Too bad Epik does not sell them anymore. Also, they don't ship international.
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The Conquest will go louder and deeper than the other two and even the JL F113. Too bad Epik does not sell them anymore. Also, they don't ship international.

That is not true. The Conquest will go louder than the other two, but either of the other two will actually go deeper than the Conquest.
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For just a little bit more money you could get a seaton submersive, which, from what I have read, would outdo all of those subs in output and extension. You are already spending a lot of money on a sub, why not spend a little bit more and get the best?
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Yep, the Conquest is out...I question your pricing too. SonicBoom sells the PB13 for $1899 and $1999 (Can) plus shipping depending on the finish option. Hsu you'd have to a quote for and I think with currency, shipping, taxes, etc, you're going to be above $1423 Can. The Ultra will have considerably more output than the Hsu in ported mode.

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Go with a submersive. Digs deeper and possibly more musical. I don't think you will miss the small loss in output.
Cons: more expensive and you may have to wait for one.
I would stay away from HSU in Canada. I got a outrages quote from them.

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Are these prices quoted or did you just apply the current exchange rate?

The Conquest shows at out of stock. This may mean they will be replaced with something new as Epik did with the rest of their products.

SonicBoom shows the PB13 at $1,899.

If YOSH saying that SB (SVS) is in Richmond Hill means they are near you, then you wouldn't have any shipping cost.

If price is a major factor, then make sure you look at delivered prices.

Other than that, you have a good list. Some people just can't accept your list as your list. You could probably include a dozen or more subs on your list, but that won't help you make a choice.

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Hksvr4:The Conquest will go louder and deeper than the other two and even the JL F113. Too bad Epik does not sell them anymore. Also, they don't ship international.

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That is not true. The Conquest will go louder than the other two, but either of the other two will actually go deeper than the Conquest.

Did I miss something?
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Go with a submersive. Digs deeper and possibly more musical.

+1, though shipping and importing may come at a cost....

But worth looking into....
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Did I miss something?

You posted louder and deeper for the Conquest...while it will have more overall output, it will not go deeper.

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hi

Sonicboom quoted me over the phone its a shipping discount since there out of stock at the momment.

The other 2 subs are just the exchange rate before taxes.

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Also no shipping I can pick up the SVS SB13 Ultra if i wanted to the guy said since its down the street from me if i were to go with them. I will be using the sub for music as well. My system as follows

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seaton submersive is more expensive then the other 3

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The ULS 15 went on sale today, you should recheck the price to see how that discount affects you. At $1099, that is an excellent price, this may be the push I need to buy a dual-drive.
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seaton submersive is more expensive then the other 3

And for good reason....

But it sounds like the Ultra13 is your best option, and I hardly think you will be disappointed either.... Its a great performer...
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Its so hard to choose, because you cant just walk in to the store and listen. i want this to be the last sub i buy for a while. I still have to buy a blue ray player, Pioneer elite BDP-09FD or the new OPPO BDP 83.

But right now focusing on the sub :-)

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The Conquest will go louder and deeper than the other two and even the JL F113. Too bad Epik does not sell them anymore. Also, they don't ship international.

Wow! No more Conquests...the end of an age has come...
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Wow! No more Conquests...the end of an age has come...

No one knows for sure except Chad. He has not yet offically announced whether or not the Conquest will be back.

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And for good reason....

But it sounds like the Ultra13 is your best option, and I hardly think you will be disappointed either.... Its a great performer...

I can vouch for the Ultra 13, it has been the best sub I've had so far. I've had M&K and other SVS (and even had the JL F113 in my room for a night).

If you can't pop for the extra $$ for Seaton's SubMersive which people have directly compared with all the excellent subs on your list, then I think the combination of WAF/customer support/extension/output/flexibility of the SVS Ultra wins out.

But... if you can eek out just a bit more $$, get yourself a SubMersive.

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Its so hard to choose, because you cant just walk in to the store and listen. i want this to be the last sub i buy for a while. But right now focusing on the sub :-)

As I said earlier, you have all excellent subs in your list. You can find plenty of high praise posts for all of them all throughout this forum. With the Conquest out of stock and, if true they don't ship out of the US, you can drop that one. I would replace it with the Submersive. Now get 'delivered' quotes from each and see where you stand.

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No one knows for sure except Chad. He has not yet offically announced whether or not the Conquest will be back.

Yeah, I can't imagine them discontinuing the Conquest. It does seem "different" from the current Epik line up though. If it is discontinued, I wonder if it will be replaced by something bigger and badder....
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Yeah, I can't imagine them discontinuing the Conquest. It does seem "different" from the current Epik line up though. If it is discontinued, I wonder if it will be replaced by something bigger and badder....

Personally, I would not doubt that a bit

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I have to find out how much would the seaton sub be with shipping and taxes in canadian $$$$.

But by the looks of it........ its looking like the SVS PB13 Ultra, cost wise its looking REALLY REALLY REALLY GOOD!!!

Cant believe I will be spending $2000 on a subwoofer Have to hide the cost from the wife, at least SVS has a 45day money back gurantee

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I guy just told me to look into the TC Sounds LMS-5400 how good is this sub compared to the rest? Its a lot cheaper as well.

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I guy just told me to look into the TC Sounds LMS-5400 how good is this sub compared to the rest? Its a lot cheaper as well.

That is only a driver. You would still need a properly designed enclosure and an amp.
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the HSU's are on sale now. maybe you could run dual uls15's
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the HSU's are on sale now. maybe you could run dual uls15's

I'm sick of people not reading the post.

The OP is in Canada, so HSU is out.
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I'm sick of people not reading the post.

The OP is in Canada, so HSU is out.

guess the OP dosn't read his threads either.. LOOK IN THE DAMN TITLE

"Epik Conquest Subwoofer Vs HSU ULS-15 Vs SVS PB13-Ultra Vs Seaton Submersive"
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Best High End Subwoofer under $2000
http://www.bestcovery.com/node/9457

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a review from stereophile on the SVS PB 13, the link is the final conclusion it compares it with theF113
http://www.stereophile.com/subwoofer...vs/index1.html

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