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JT, I see you are selling your FV pair. What next?
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Just testing the water. More than likely I bet I keep them. Who knows maybe a pair of Echo 18's not sure though?

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Cap 1400's!
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^^ I see. What are looking to gain? More output?
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If funds allowed it would definitely be Cap 1400's. Yes, more output is the goal!

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That was my thing, funds. I had to set a limit, at some point you can just get ridiculous. FV15HP's were perfect in the budget after I sold the other subs.
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JT, hanging around here has made you crazy . Honestly if you don't listen louder than -15 or -10MV, I don't see bigger 18" subs will gain you anything. You might even miss the low end your FV's put out.
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I know I have I guess more than anything I just want to hear what a big ported 18 sounds like and funds will not permit a Captivator, so I turned towards the poor mans version the Echo 18.

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^^ I have heard lots of big boy subs including pair of cap2400, 3 SubmersiveHP, 8 DIY 18"SI's, 3 Triaxes, and most recent a pair of Deep Sea Sound 24". All of these has more output than my FV only if they were running 6 to 10db hot at close to reference MV. They were really pounding and pressurizing the room. My FV pair can really damage my room and the room next to it plus everything below it if I crank them to reference. In my opinion, the FV pair should be enough for most people minus most AVSer's (you are one of them). Remember the FV is categorized as for extreme large room by audioholic, so a pair of FV should be plenty for your room. If I were you, I wouldn't upgrade to the Echo18 and find yourself upgrading again as you have been doing. Why takes a small step? What if after getting the Echo18, there is a FV18hp, Echo218? Upgrade again? These forums are great but very bad for the wallet if one does not draw a line.
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^^ I should have just kept my Andrew Jones Pioneer speakers and 8" Pioneer sub. I thought that setup was killer. Little did I know....

What I'll more than likely do is save for a new 70" TV next. My 60" plasma is dwarfed by my speakers and subs.

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^^ do that. 70" is very affordable now. Sign up for Fry's promotion email. I have seen some crazy deal. They had an LG 60" 4k smart TV for $650.
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UHD 70" is on my wish list for next year once some UHD players and discs get out. I am done with audio for now.
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Why did they have to stop making plasmas...

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^^^ Cost to build and purchase, technical problems with longevity and screen burn-in, high power consumption and heat, plus advances in the performance of competing architectures all conspired to seal their fate, alas.

On topic: If you can't get what you want from a pair of FV15's in that room you might as well skip everything else and just get a rotary: http://www.rotarywoofer.com/
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JT, come pick up an SPL meter and warble tones CD. It will give you some ideas where the peaks and nulls are in your room. Look at it this way. We often talk about power, power, power. But power is energy divided by time. It is the energy that we sum together. It is the energy that follows the conservation law. Subwoofers just pump energy into our room. Some of that energy got absorbed by the walls, flooring, and furnitures. But what is left is distributed in the room. So a bigger room will dilute that acoustic energy. If you have an SPL meter and use that to walk around the room and check how the acoustic energy is distributed in your room. SPL meter can tell you that easily. Record the numbers on a spreadsheet for later review. If you find there are many spots with higher output than your MLP, then you know the source of the problem.

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Brian I can definitely do that however I have some reservations. I'm not sure if you recall from the few times you have been over, but my room offers very little space to move things around. The best I could do when moving the two subs was placing them inside and outside of my towers. My response wasn't too bad outside of a very narrow dip at 50hz. In a perfect world I'd like to say that I'm squeezing every bit of performance out of my subs down to -10 on the AVR volume. I never listen past this point.

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I'm curious---In all the talk here, the discussion pertains to how this or that movie sounds on any given Rythmik sub. I like movies as well, but don't you guys also listen to music on your systems? How music sounds on the subs is rarely, if ever, mentioned. I think it's great that Rythmik has attracted home theater enthusiasts who find the subs excellent for that use, but reproducing music well is much more difficult than producing movie sound effects. The Rythmiks are far superior to other subs at making an acoustic (stand-up) bass sound like it does in person, with it's tone, timbre, and texture intact (how's that for alliteration?). Making movie sound effects is child's play in comparison---any old sub can do that, though not as well as a Rythmik, if perhaps louder. Blending with a pair speakers, in effect "disappearing", traditionally a challenge unsuccessfully met by subs, is also an ability the Rythmiks possess. Done well, a sub shouldn't be audible in and of itself, but rather make the loudspeaker it is augmenting sound like it just got much better at the bottom. That's what's wrong with those woofer "shootouts"; the participants want to "hear" the subs. Completely antithetical to superior music reproduction. Looking in the other direction, having the capability to energize a room with pounding, thumping, crashing low-frequency sound effects at wall-shaking SPL in no way guarantees a subs ability to play music well. At all.
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^^^ Cost to build and purchase, technical problems with longevity and screen burn-in, high power consumption and heat, plus advances in the performance of competing architectures all conspired to seal their fate, alas.

On topic: If you can't get what you want from a pair of FV15's in that room you might as well skip everything else and just get a rotary: http://www.rotarywoofer.com/

Most of that is not correct IMO or just way to generalized, but I am not going to get into a plasma discussion in this thread (plasma owner since 2003). I could give you a longer list of issues with LCD but as you can see they are still around! More to it than just plasmas are hot and have IR.
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I'm curious---In all the talk here, the discussion pertains to how this or that movie sounds on any given Rythmik sub. I like movies as well, but don't you guys also listen to music on your systems? How music sounds on the subs is rarely, if ever, mentioned. I think it's great that Rythmik has attracted home theater enthusiasts who find the subs excellent for that use, but reproducing music well is much more difficult than producing movie sound effects. The Rythmiks are far superior to other subs at making an acoustic (stand-up) bass sound like it does in person, with it's tone, timbre, and texture intact (how's that for alliteration?). Making movie sound effects is child's play in comparison---any old sub can do that, though not as well as a Rythmik, if perhaps louder. Blending with a pair speakers, in effect "disappearing", traditionally a challenge unsuccessfully met by subs, is also an ability the Rythmiks possess. Done well, a sub shouldn't be audible in and of itself, but rather make the loudspeaker it is augmenting sound like it just got much better at the bottom. That's what's wrong with those woofer "shootouts"; the participants want to "hear" the subs. Completely antithetical to superior music reproduction. Looking in the other direction, having the capability to energize a room with pounding, thumping, crashing low-frequency sound effects at wall-shaking SPL in no way guarantees a subs ability to play music well. At all.
Ill have to try mine. When I upgraded my mains, and bought the preamp and amp, I have found I prefer 2 channel music.
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Most of that is not correct IMO or just way to generalized, but I am not going to get into a plasma discussion in this thread (plasma owner since 2003). I could give you a longer list of issues with LCD but as you can see they are still around! More to it than just plasmas are hot and have IR.
Really? Sorry, I just know what I read in the engineering rags. There was a flurry of plasma articles a few years ago discussing their future in the trade magazines and IEEE Consumer Electronics Journal. I think it was generated by new CA energy laws (?) There were some neat solutions proposed as well but I have not kept up; not my area of expertise.

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Brian I can definitely do that however I have some reservations. I'm not sure if you recall from the few times you have been over, but my room offers very little space to move things around. The best I could do when moving the two subs was placing them inside and outside of my towers. My response wasn't too bad outside of a very narrow dip at 50hz. In a perfect world I'd like to say that I'm squeezing every bit of performance out of my subs down to -10 on the AVR volume. I never listen past this point.
The problem is that if you are not getting the tactile feel due to room issues, cannot move the listening position and have nowhere else to place the subs, then buying different subs and putting them in the same place will not help.

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^^^ Cost to build and purchase, technical problems with longevity and screen burn-in, high power consumption and heat, plus advances in the performance of competing architectures all conspired to seal their fate, alas.

On topic: If you can't get what you want from a pair of FV15's in that room you might as well skip everything else and just get a rotary: http://www.rotarywoofer.com/
The Rotary Woofer---invented, designed, and manufactured by the very clever engineer Bruce Thigpen, another (in addition to one Mr. Brian Ding!) outside the box thinker. Eminent Technology also makes the LFT-8b Magnetic Planar Loudspeaker, perhaps the best value (along with the Magneplanar MG 1.7i) in a loudspeaker currently available. The Rythmik subs blend seamlessly with them, by the way, creating a full-range, world-class music reproducer for relative (in relation to comparatively-performing speakers) peanuts.
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