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Myth.

This is exactly the reason I never fight customers opinion. If he had a ported sub and is largely happy, just want to get better clarity, I would ecommend our ported subs, not sealed subs. Every customer is different in sound quality preference, room and equipment setup.

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This is exactly the reason I never fight customers opinion. If he had a ported sub and is largely happy, just want to get better clarity, I would ecommend our ported subs, not sealed subs. Every customer is different in sound quality preference, room and equipment setup.
But if one is happy with their ported and not ever experienced a sealed sub how does that customer know if sealed is really a better solution or not?

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But if one is happy with their ported and not ever experienced a sealed sub how does that customer know if sealed is really a better solution or not?

Before I discovered Rythmik, I was looking at the SVS line of subs. I called them and talked to one of the engineers, asking him about the inherent difference in sound between their ported and sealed models (particularly the SB13 Ultra). When I asked about the difference in "speed" between them (the term used not in the literal sense, but in the sense of lack of overhang/overshoot/settling time/etc.---in other words, not starting speed, but stopping speed. I thought everybody in Hi-Fi understood that ;-), his demeanor took on an air of smug condescension, and he said "A 'fast' woofer would be a tweeter". Where I come from that's called being rude and insulting. He then said that the only advantage of sealed is in the room gain it provides in very small rooms, that ported outperform sealed in every other way, and were preferable in all but the smallest of rooms, sealed being recommended only for rooms too small for a "real" (ported) sub. Now, I'm no spring chicken, and I've had a fair number of woofers in my life---acoustic suspension (both with and without passive radiator assistance), bass reflex (ported), horn-loaded (JBL D-130's in huge Voice Of The Theater cabinets), transmission line (KEF B139 woofers in long lines), planar, motion-feedback (Infinity). Okay, I said to myself, here's an engineer who not only says his sealed design is no better than his ported, he says, in fact, exactly the opposite---that his ported is better than his sealed. I believe I'll keep looking, thought I. He had just talked himself out of a sale. Luckily, as that lead me to Rythmik!
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Well, you were talking to an engineer so someone from that perspective is highly likely to think of speed in the literal sense even after the inferred meaning is explained.

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I keep haring about speed of a subwoofer. I can never seem to hear it myself. I think of many smaller sealed subs as lifeless and a different person in the room thinks it is really fast. I think that serious bass is a personal liking. I sometimes think we get caught in terms or catch phases like warmer sound. Really the words are just adjectives to describe a certain perspective and in double blind test many can not tell a sealed from a ported design. I would love to hear Rythmik or SVS. I have heared JTR Orbital shifters, PSA ported, JL sealed and ported, REL sealed, Si-24 Sealed, gjallarhorn foled horn, and Ultimax sealed. I thought they were all great.
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Well, you were talking to an engineer so someone from that perspective is highly likely to think of speed in the literal sense even after the inferred meaning is explained.
Brian is an engineer (as am I).

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I never heard a sub described as "lifeless" based upon its size.

While many associated "speed" with "fast" or "wide bandwidth", IME/IMO it is really about control. You hear the speed of a good sub when the sound stops after a drum stick or piano hammer strikes and the sound dies away naturally, quickly, without filling the space between notes. To you and others that may sound "lifeless". To me it sounds realistic and "clean". (Of course, "clean" has come to mean "sterile", with negative connotation. I can't keep up with how audiophiles redefine English.) But, some prefer that extra sound, describing it as "richer" or "fuller"; others think it "boomy" and "bloated". The nice thing about Rythmik is you can adjust the damping to choose your favorite sound.

Good subs sound more alike than different. The huge differences often raved about are often pretty subtle, at least to me. But, there are differences, and I can appreciate (or at least understand) them.

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Thanks for clearing that up. That makes sense.

So, ported vs. sealed is one of multiple factors that affect impulse response.

My point stands, though, that they are not the same.

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I didn't claim that ported and sealed are the same. I dispute the myth that sealed subs are inherently superior in sound quality to ported subs, or tighter, or crisper, or more articulate etc etc. I agree that subs will sound different in room when comparing ported, sealed, horn etc etc. But I also believe that our ears are not as precise as some of us wish to believe, or that we are immune to our biases when listening to our preferred alignment. I have seen far too many occasions in which those who adamantly prefer a particular alignment are somehow unable to determine which one they are listening to when the curtain is drawn in a blind test. People cannot reliably determine whether they are listening to ported, sealed, or horn in blind listening tests, especially when they are eq'd as closely as possible. I think there are subtle differences that can affect the sound of a sub, but well designed subs eq'd the same in room would be impossible to tell apart in honest blind testing imo.

As far as claiming that things like impulse response is superior across the board for sealed subs, or even as a general rule, I have not found this to be true either. Testing on Data-Bass.com reveals that there are ported subs that measure better on impulse response than some of the most highly vaunted sealed subs. Subjective sound quality impressions are typically made in regards to music which is primarily above 40 Hz, so I don't see ringing around 18 Hz port tunes and lower as having any effect on sound quality with music.

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^^ apparently the difference is enough for rcohen to justify upgrading to the f25 over fv15. I really want to listen to the f25. Scratch that, I really want to listen to the FV25hp
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Subjective sound quality impressions are typically made in regards to music which is primarily above 40 Hz, so I don't see ringing around 18 Hz port tunes and lower as having any effect on sound quality with music.

If that is the case, there shouldn't be any reason for us to provide a 14hz 20hz and 28hz extension switch. We provide that switch for over 10 years now and over 90% of customers when playing music prefer 14hz over 20hz or even 28hz, and high damping over mid damping or low damping. What is missing between what you are saying (or others saying the same thing) and what we are doing is there is a misunderstanding on what is the bandwidth requirement for playing a dynamic 40hz sine signal. It is more than just 40hz. It is so much so that a term called "Blackman" windowed burst sine tone can be found if you do an internet search and many Ph.D students were graduated becasue of that. You can read the background about it. In fact, the burst tone Data-Bass uses IS a Blackman windowed burst tone. If all music signal are changing like Blackman burst tone does, then we only have one texture of bass signal. That will be boring. Blackman window is a man made signal. In short, only static signal 40hz requires 40hz as the bandwidth to play it. Any dyanmic 40hz signal that is changing in and out requires bandwidth wider than 40hz itself.
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^^^


BTW, we can modulate a 40hz signal with 30hz rate and that creates the beat effect and a 10hz content. In fact, that has been the fundamentals of many synthesizers to create different texture of bass.
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^^ apparently the difference is enough for rcohen to justify upgrading to the f25 over fv15. I really want to listen to the f25. Scratch that, I really want to listen to the FV25hp

I don't want to say it outright, but when a customer tells me that he cannot tell the difference the damping switch makes or the bass extension makes, I begin to worry that the customer's setup may not be optimal. So much so maybe all subwoofers will sound the same to him
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But if one is happy with their ported and not ever experienced a sealed sub how does that customer know if sealed is really a better solution or not?
But where does that stop? Is the sealed sub from brand A better than another from brand B? In that case, you need to befriend a subwoofer dealer so that you can borrow all subs to compare and draw your conclusion.

A local customer didn't befriend a subwoofer dealer, but he tries all the sealed subs he can have access to (borrowed from friends, local subwoofer sellers (like us or other individual sellers), and members from forum, AND those offer free return) and spend 8 weeks before he made decision. He bought a pair of F12G for his magpans in the end. We loaned him b-stock F12/F12G before he bought brand new pair.

Sound or audio quality is something that draws my attention ever since I was a teen. My first pair of speakers were 3-way Jensens whch later I learnt sounded like c*** when I bought my ProAc Tablettes. That was when I begin to lose faith in big brands.

A friend of mine when I was in graduate school was fanatic about audio. He was constantly buying and selling audio gears and compared the sound. In his mind, the only things golden and should not be replaced were his Spendor speakes. Other than that, he went through at least 6 different preamps, amplifiers, a couple of turntable,...etc. Every time he got new equipment, he would invite me over and he and I learnt a lot from that. Majority of the audio gears he bought and sold were used.

In short, there are quite a few ways to learn what you really want. But none of that can be done in 45 days trial. If you really want to try our subs and are concerned about shipping cost, send us email and we can discuss. (BTW, this applies to dc6284 as well).

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"A 'fast' woofer would be a tweeter".

Same league as those say the best bass is no bass
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Same league as those say the best bass is no bass

That attitude towards the low frequencies in music reproduction has been very prevalent in England, both in product development and magazine reviews, for decades. The size and structure of the listening rooms over there is often cited as a main reason for the U.K. anti-bass prejudice; their rooms tend to be small and of lath and plaster construction, with little room bass loss (unlike stud and sheetrock U.S. structures, with a good amount of loss through the walls). I love British designed and built Hi-Fi, having had pieces of it in my music system for many years---my turntable, pickup arm, phono cartridge, pre-amp, and one of my speaker systems being British. And they have a point about not enough bass being preferable to bad bass, but some designers seem to intentionally sacrifice low-frequency bandwidth and output to maximize bass quality (it's difficult and expensive to make good, loud bass!). Speakers so designed and built can sound kind of like a miniature Faberge egg, ya know? Delicate, transparent, and detailed, but missing some musical meat on the bones, to use a crude analogy. But that's okay---owners of such speakers can now just add a good sub or two to make a full-range loudspeaker!
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That attitude towards the low frequencies in music reproduction has been very prevalent in England, both in product development and magazine reviews, for decades.
That's no longer true. Most of the people I'm aware of, embrace the frequency range a quality subwoofer is capable of.

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The size and structure of the listening rooms over there is often cited as a main reason for the U.K. anti-bass prejudice; their rooms tend to be small and of lath and plaster construction, with little room bass loss (unlike stud and sheetrock U.S. structures, with a good amount of loss through the walls). I love British designed and built Hi-Fi, having had pieces of it in my music system for many years---my turntable, pickup arm, phono cartridge, pre-amp, and one of my speaker systems being British. And they have a point about not enough bass being preferable to bad bass, but some designers seem to intentionally sacrifice low-frequency bandwidth and output to maximize bass quality (it's difficult and expensive to make good, loud bass!). Speakers so designed and built can sound kind of like a miniature Faberge egg, ya know? Delicate, transparent, and detailed, but missing some musical meat on the bones, to use a crude analogy. But that's okay---owners of such speakers can now just add a good sub or two to make a full-range loudspeaker!
I've had KEF bookshelf speakers for years, but have been slightly dissatisfied with them. It took an F12SE to demonstrate their true quality. Stunning is the word I now use for them.

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That's no longer true. Most of the people I'm aware of, embrace the frequency range a quality subwoofer is capable of.

I've had KEF bookshelf speakers for years, but have been slightly dissatisfied with them. It took an F12SE to demonstrate their true quality. Stunning is the word I now use for them.

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Was it *only* the bass that you were dissatisfied with? Or are there other qualities you didn't like, that are now masked by the sub?
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I've had KEF bookshelf speakers for years, but have been slightly dissatisfied with them. It took an F12SE to demonstrate their true quality. Stunning is the word I now use for them.
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Was it *only* the bass that you were dissatisfied with? Or are there other qualities you didn't like, that are now masked by the sub?
I was thinking the same thing. Is it the Sub that is awesome or did the speakers change somehow.

A lot of people say things like this but it just makes me wonder if a speaker will sound better if you put a 80hz crossover on it with no sub?
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tried it, music with 80z HPF sounds like crap, specially when the user has heard the system with the sub, BUT i bet some to listeners who has NOT experienced the system with the subwoofer on will be ok with it, it really depends on your listening experiences

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I was thinking the same thing. Is it the Sub that is awesome or did the change somehow.

A lot of people say things like this but it just makes me wonder if a speaker will sound better if you put a 80hz crossover on it with no sub?

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I was thinking the same thing. Is it the Sub that is awesome or did the speakers change somehow.

A lot of people say things like this but it just makes me wonder if a speaker will sound better if you put a 80hz crossover on it with no sub?
Our perceptions charge drastically when a good sub is added, to the point that we no longer notice some of the other flaws in the speaker. Take away the sub and the issues are front and center again (pun not intended)

I'm not saying that is the case here, I honestly want to know because I've never heard KEF speakers before.
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The problem with running smaller speakers full-range is that distort heavily with large'ish LF signals. I have measured 50% and more distortion from some very fine speakers when driven to 80 dB SPL at the listening position with a tone at their -3 dB point. Once you add a sub and offload that LF content, it cleans up the rest of the main speaker's frequency range.

Subs have the same problem, thought usually at a higher SPL, but that is one reason my first sub (a DIY job) decades ago was a servo design. As has every one since (which, actually, is only Rythmik since I went from my old DIY to a pair of F12's).

BTW, I have a pair of nice KEF's upstairs, but they are pretty old (not as old as my Maggies).

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Once you add a sub and offload that LF content, it cleans up the rest of the main speaker's frequency range.
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Long story short:

Need your guys help. Finally got my Fv15hp sounding fantastic. Then my wife got home from a trip about 2 weeks ago. And ever since then, I've been on the couch.

She can't get over how big it is. So I thought I'll give it time. Well time is not working! She actually love's the sound. But not the space.

The good news is she will let me spend more if I go smaller. I want as close as I can in sound tho.

Would two E15hp's come close in comparison? Or any suggestions? Also anyone know if there is a discount for duals?

Wish I would of waited and talked to her 1st. Think I have to pay the return shipping on this beast.
Looks like Im going to go with two e15hp's... I think my room is small enough 17x13x9 for two sealed subs.

Anyone ever make a return to Rythmik and did it go smoothly?

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I had to return 2 F15HPs and exchanged them for 2 FV15HPs with no issues. You pay for shipping. In my case, I drove them back. If you can make it work, I recommend the FV15HPs. There is a big difference in output.
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Anyone ever make a return to Rythmik and did it go smoothly?
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I have two F12's in essentially the same size room (closed room) and they will get painfully loud. Despite the "bigger is better" mantra that permeates audiophilia I think a pair of E15HP's will be plenty... You can always ask Brian or Enrico directly and see what they suggest.

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