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post #26281 of 28543 Old 09-26-2016, 09:01 PM
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How long until the L12 (matte) is back in stock?

About 6 weeks.
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I have the order link for the logos so if anybody is interested in order logos, please send me an email to tech@rythmikaudio.com

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Hey All-

I'll be moving into a new place this coming Christmas and really looking forward to a new home theater setup. I've already purchased a Marantz SR5010 receiver, a pair of Chane A5 towers, and Chane's new A2.4 as my center channel. The only thing I'm missing is a sub! The only two brands I'm really looking at are Rythmik and SVS. When it comes to Rythmik, I've keyed in on the L12 or the F12- not sure which would be best. My room is an open concept 20.4 x 19.4 living room, probably going to have 12 ft or so ceilings.

My setup is going to be used as my everyday TV speakers, obviously movie speakers, and will be my music as well. I anticipate probably a 60-40 split between TV/movies and music. Any thoughts you all may have as to which is the better choice? My neighbors will probably hate me no matter what

Floor plan of my unit attached here, setup will be either right underneath where it says 'Dining Area' or just above where it says 'Unit'...not sure yet where my cable outlet will be.
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I have the order link for the logos so if anybody is interested in order logos, please send me an email to tech@rythmikaudio.com

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my space is roughly 2500 c.f. . living room itself is 16x14 with a partial wall in the rear and an area where it opens up into the kitchen. vaulted ceilings. sub spot is directly behind the couch. i do mostly movies but getting back into playing music. so 80/20. i run my current sub around 2pm or a hair after. i found that it works well like that with movies. +3 on my receiver. maybe i need something more powerful than two 400 watt subs. not sure. i got my sub list going but undecided a bit but trying to get the best deal i can for two subs if possible. 1800 or less.
I think a pair of the fvx15 will do well. The 400W rating does not mean much, the sub output and sound quality are what matters.
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I have the order link for the logos so if anybody is interested in order logos, please send me an email to tech@rythmikaudio.com



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I just ordered 2 small logos

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About 6 weeks.
Darn - of course it is out of stock right after I sold my previous subs
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I just ordered 2 small logos


I ordered one of each size. Just in case I like how the smaller logo looks better. I'm a minimalist, can't you tell by my choice of sub?

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I am having my friend picking up the logos from Brian.

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Sub newb here. I am going to convince my wife to "let" me get a new sub in a couple weeks. She is getting granite countertops, after that, it's my turn!

So I know I am gonna pick either the F12 or the F12G (paper cone). My question is that the system is 100% music only. TV is connected to it's own sound bar and sub. So if the sub will be for music only, which type cone material is better? From what I read on their site, it sounds like the paper is better because it is lighter. But I wanted to run it by those more experienced than myself.

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Since granite countertops are not cheap, you should use "your turn" to get something bigger like a F25...

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You guys got me

Well.. I started out looking for a $400 dollar sub and thought I was big timing...lol Now I just ordered ascend 340's LCR and 170's for surround and front atmos heights along with dual FVX15's directly from Rythmik ha. I am in Houston so I assume the subs will get here first and I can play with my new toys. Thanks guys for all the knowledge you share.
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Well.. I started out looking for a $400 dollar sub and thought I was big timing...lol Now I just ordered ascend 340's LCR and 170's for surround and front atmos heights along with dual FVX15's directly from Rythmik ha. I am in Houston so I assume the subs will get here first and I can play with my new toys. Thanks guys for all the knowledge you share.
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I just picked up a pair of Klipsch P38s and Parasound pre and power amps in the past couple months. So at this point I am thankful that I get to still sleep inside.

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Since granite countertops are not cheap, you should use "your turn" to get something bigger like a F25...
You have to do a LOT of granite countertops to match what the Palladium P38s + Parasound JC-2BP + Parasound A21 cost .... Maybe in another life, or two



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my space is roughly 2500 c.f. . living room itself is 16x14 with a partial wall in the rear and an area where it opens up into the kitchen. vaulted ceilings. sub spot is directly behind the couch. i do mostly movies but getting back into playing music. so 80/20. i run my current sub around 2pm or a hair after. i found that it works well like that with movies. +3 on my receiver. maybe i need something more powerful than two 400 watt subs. not sure. i got my sub list going but undecided a bit but trying to get the best deal i can for two subs if possible. 1800 or less.
This still does not determine at what volume you listen, so making suggestions or assumptions about which sub or subs would be suitable is taking a wild shot in the dark with no info. Knowing the room size is helpful, how open it is, and what your intended use is helps of course. But this leaves out the most important part.


What is the MV(master volume) on your receiver at the typical loudest volume you listen? When you say +3 on your receiver, I assume you mean that you have the subwoofer trim at +3, as +3 MV would be exceptionally loud. Very few people have the system capability to listen at 3 above reference.

Here is an example. Reference level is 0 on the master volume. Let's assume that you listen at -15 MV, which is 15 dB below reference level. Reference level = 115 dB peaks from subwoofer, plus however "hot" the sub is calibrated. So at -15MV with sub 6 dB hot(common), your sub should be able to produce SPL peaks of 115-15+6, which is of course 106 dB. This does not take into account the additional SPL the sub may be called upon to produce from bass redirected from the rest of your speakers, which could be another 5-6 dB. This brings the peak output requirement to 111-112 dB if you listen no louder than -15. If you prefer to listen at -10, add another 5 dB.

By the same token, if you want to have clean, uncompressed output from your subwoofer(s) and you watch movies at reference level, you will need subs that can dish out in excess of 120 dB in room.

Now given your budget, this does narrow down our choices. I would say you would be hard pressed to beat a pair of FVX15's for output and extension for under $1800.
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You should get them by Friday. I'm in Katy too
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This still does not determine at what volume you listen, so making suggestions or assumptions about which sub or subs would be suitable is taking a wild shot in the dark with no info. Knowing the room size is helpful, how open it is, and what your intended use is helps of course. But this leaves out the most important part.


What is the MV(master volume) on your receiver at the typical loudest volume you listen? When you say +3 on your receiver, I assume you mean that you have the subwoofer trim at +3, as +3 MV would be exceptionally loud. Very few people have the system capability to listen at 3 above reference.

Here is an example. Reference level is 0 on the master volume. Let's assume that you listen at -15 MV, which is 15 dB below reference level. Reference level = 115 dB peaks from subwoofer, plus however "hot" the sub is calibrated. So at -15MV with sub 6 dB hot(common), your sub should be able to produce SPL peaks of 115-15+6, which is of course 106 dB. This does not take into account the additional SPL the sub may be called upon to produce from bass redirected from the rest of your speakers, which could be another 5-6 dB. This brings the peak output requirement to 111-112 dB if you listen no louder than -15. If you prefer to listen at -10, add another 5 dB.

By the same token, if you want to have clean, uncompressed output from your subwoofer(s) and you watch movies at reference level, you will need subs that can dish out in excess of 120 dB in room.

Now given your budget, this does narrow down our choices. I would say you would be hard pressed to beat a pair of FVX15's for output and extension for under $1800.
Sorry for the lack of info. still new on describing stuff. master volume most of the time is up to around -15 to -10 most of the time. my wife likes cranking it too the sub level(trim) in the settings is +3 and the volume of the sub itself is around the 2 o clock position. crossover is at 80 and small for all speakers. subwoofer is directly behind the couch facing sideways. total room size i think i miscalculated. it's more closer to 3,000. no idea how to figure out vaulted ceilings in the equation but 9-10 ft i think is the highest at the midpoint.

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Sorry for the lack of info. still new on describing stuff. master volume most of the time is up to around -15 to -10 most of the time. my wife likes cranking it too the sub level(trim) in the settings is +3 and the volume of the sub itself is around the 2 o clock position. crossover is at 80 and small for all speakers. subwoofer is directly behind the couch facing sideways. total room size i think i miscalculated. it's more closer to 3,000. no idea how to figure out vaulted ceilings in the equation but 9-10 ft i think is the highest at the midpoint.
Based on this, your SPL requirements from subs should peak around 110-115 dB. I am guessing the FVX15 should be good for around 104 dB(2m, RMS) at 20 Hz (the FV15HP is around 107). Duals would put you at 110 outdoors with no room gain. So in a 3000 ft^3 room, I think you would have no problem hitting the most demanding peaks of around 115 dB, probably all the way down to port tune in the low teens.

I would suggest downloading REW and picking up a mic(such as Umik-1) for measurement in order to properly position and integrate dual subs in your room.
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There are numerous things you can buy to break a ground loop without running a 40' power cord across the room. You can buy line-level isolators or a power line isolator from Amazon pretty cheaply. A "high quality cable" will not break a ground loop. It might change the impedance of the loop and help, but it is very rare when a cable has done anything for me or clients.
I had tried both line-level isolators, all they did was reduce the db, once you turned it back up you heard the hum again. I tried a wide variety of power line isolators as well. Nothing worked in my case. The only thing that worked was plugging in the sub to the same outlet as the receiver, which was way far away and not really feasible as I couldn't run a power cable through the conduit in my walls without breaking code. It's weird as you hear a sub cable can't help a ground loop issue, but in my case you never know what will fix it, so many things could be causing the issue. I found my fix was a high quality sub cable with a solid copper core, sure it was more expensive, around 70 bucks, but to fix my hum it's well worth it. Glad it was that simple for me, took me many hours to figure out and after playing around with just about everything else and many other ground loop fixes I am glad I finally found something, it was getting very annoying.
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Proud new owner of a matte black Rythmik L-12 that arrived on my doorstep yesterday!

I haven't had a chance to really put it through it's paces yet, but so far it's CLEARLY better than the KEF Q400b that it replaced. It obviously digs deeper with more authority and is much more clean and musical. Luckily I returned the KEF Q400b within the 30 day return window, and ordered the L12.

It's sitting on an Auralex SubDude in my high WAF living room system paired with a Denon AVR-X3200 and GoldenEar 3D Array X passive soundbar. I'm using an Outllaw OAW4 wireless transmitter/receiver to send the signal to the sub.
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Bought my first "real" sub today. Ordered an F12. I am not very sub savy, so I will be asking some questions during setup. Can't wait! I wish it were here today so I can play with it this weekend.

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Had an f12 not too long ago. Switched to a fv15hp. Position is everything with subs. The f12 didn't shine until I had the right spot.
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My E15HP is here, and I am thoroughly impressed! The packaging was top-notch, as well as the instructions to drag the sub on a carpeted floor were outstanding. Initial impressions are "WOW!", not only this is a huge upgrade over my SVS SB12-NSD, but also the bass is indeed very clean and controlled. The sub pounds with authority, totally. Here is a poor cellphone pic, it sits on a DIY subwoofer platform. :-)

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My E15HP is here, and I am thoroughly impressed! The packaging was top-notch, as well as the instructions to drag the sub on a carpeted floor were outstanding. Initial impressions are "WOW!", not only this is a huge upgrade over my SVS SB12-NSD, but also the bass is indeed very clean and controlled. The sub pounds with authority, totally. Here is a poor cellphone pic, it sits on a DIY subwoofer platform. :-)
Nice! I think it's awesome how the driver just dominates the entire front of the enclosure.

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My E15HP is here, and I am thoroughly impressed! The packaging was top-notch, as well as the instructions to drag the sub on a carpeted floor were outstanding. Initial impressions are "WOW!", not only this is a huge upgrade over my SVS SB12-NSD, but also the bass is indeed very clean and controlled. The sub pounds with authority, totally. Here is a poor cellphone pic, it sits on a DIY subwoofer platform. :-)

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In your excitement you forgot to attach the pic.
Haha... thanks for pointing that out - I did attach the pic, but did not "share" the album resulting in broken image. It should be visible now.
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Your still excited about the new sub still no pic

QUOTE=choombak;47111561]Haha... thanks for pointing that out - I did attach the pic, but did not "share" the album resulting in broken image. It should be visible now. [/QUOTE]
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I don't know what device are you using guys but I can see the pic since the first post with my iMac and MacBook Pro using Safari. I haven't check with my iPhone, though. Funny thing is I can see the pic even in JT post



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Non-matching subs to go with my dual L12's

I have 2 dual L12's that are in the front of my room. I'm gonna work at Best Buy over the holidays and I'll get a sweet discount. I ran cable when constructing my basement so I can fit 2 more subs. The L12's don't have a ton of power (for my Home theater preference and placement) and I'm thinking I should have gotten the LV12R's. Nonetheless, I have an opporunity to add more subs in the back of my room about directly straight back from the other L12's and the placement with them.

Here are my options. Perhaps the answer is none and I'll continue on with my dual L12's

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/searchpa...ce%20skuidsaas

Marantz 7010 for 7.2.4
2 x Paradigm Prestige 75F's
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