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Thanks for the input Marc. I only have to concern myself with the MLP and it sounds good to me now. I will keep your suggestions in mind
Hi Ken

Where do you live in Silicon Valley, I am in Sunnyvale. If you do want to try dual sub, if it's not too far away, I can bring it over one day so you have a pair of matched sub to see how you like it before you decide whether you want to spend the money for the second one.

For me, I think one sub is plenty. It's plenty of base with my Velodyne already, I just want better base, not more base.

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Where do you live in Silicon Valley, I am in Sunnyvale. If you do want to try dual sub, if it's not too far away, I can bring it over one day so you have a pair of matched sub to see how you like it before you decide whether you want to spend the money for the second one.

For me, I think one sub is plenty. It's plenty of base with my Velodyne already, I just want better base, not more base.

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Thanks for the offer Alan,

I'm not looking at a second sub anytime soon, lots of year end expenses coming up. I do have a $200/month auto transfer into my "Audio Upgrades Account".

My room is quite small and listening to the F12 certainly doesn't make me feel like I need any more oomph, I think it is a better sound than my Klipsch was Knowing me, if the day comes when I want another, notice I said want not need, I'll probably just go for it X-Men: Apocalypse with DTS-HD Master Audio 7.1 really sounded good last night! More likely in the near term is picking up a pair of SVS Ultra BSs for my rear surrounds, maybe in January.

Hope yours is not delayed much longer. Interested to hear what you think of it.

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Thanks for the offer Alan,

I'm not looking at a second sub anytime soon, lots of year end expenses coming up. I do have a $200/month auto transfer into my "Audio Upgrades Account".

My room is quite small and listening to the F12 certainly doesn't make me feel like I need any more oomph, I think it is a better sound than my Klipsch was Knowing me, if the day comes when I want another, notice I said want not need, I'll probably just go for it X-Men: Apocalypse with DTS-HD Master Audio 7.1 really sounded good last night! More likely in the near term is picking up a pair of SVS Ultra BSs for my rear surrounds, maybe in January.

Hope yours is not delayed much longer. Interested to hear what you think of it.

Take care,
No problem, not too often you have two living in the same area.....AND buy the same sub at the same time. That's why I offer. Besides, you don't find too many people into sound either, very hard to talk to people that doesn't care!!! My step son think his Toshiba tv sounds very nice!!!!

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No problem, not too often you have two living in the same area.....AND buy the same sub at the same time. That's why I offer. Besides, you don't find too many people into sound either, very hard to talk to people that doesn't care!!! My step son think his Toshiba tv sounds very nice!!!!

Alan
Again, thanks for your kind offer Alan.

Yeah, the MP3 generation just isn't wired, in general IMO, for something that takes more than a thumb push I'm definitely the product of a different generation, although I do listen to MP3 music but I also listen to CDs and vinyl Oh yeah, I still have a rotary telephone that works even if the power goes out
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Any new info on specs, pricing, or release dates for the new Rythmik subs?
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Again, thanks for your kind offer Alan.

Yeah, the MP3 generation just isn't wired, in general IMO, for something that takes more than a thumb push I'm definitely the product of a different generation, although I do listen to MP3 music but I also listen to CDs and vinyl Oh yeah, I still have a rotary telephone that works even if the power goes out
It almost seems like audiophile is not big in US. It's big in Hong Kong where I came from, it's big in Asia and in Europe also. People spent big money in their system. I have a theory, over here, car is the biggest ticket item ( not talking about house) where people spent their money. In Hong Kong or other places like Japan etc., a car is not very useful as it's big city like NY, you take taxi or bus as there's no parking space. So people have more money to spend on other things and hifi is very popular.

If it's not for HT, hifi would be even less popular. Here, I know a lot of people that are into nice cars, I yet to know anyone into hifi audiophile, not even HT.

I definitely out of the loop on the new stuffs. My most up to date( say out dated) knowledge is Dobby 5.1. Now when you guys talking about 7.1 or whatever, I don't even know what you are talking about. Somehow, I just don't like surround sound even though my main use of the system is watching TV. As I said before, I had the surround sound setup took down when I moved, the rear speakers are in the shed out in the yard!!! I have a spare Acurus 3 channels 200W amp, Kef and Monitor Audio speakers sitting around. All I need is an AVR preamp(or whatever you guys call) and I can run the surround sound again, just never want to even try it anymore.

High end amps really have not changed much....if any in the last 30 years. I am very into power amp and designing my own. I talked on forums and read a lot of books, high end stuffs have not change since the 80s. Yes, you have the class D and other middle of the road stuffs that produce good quality sound in reasonable price. But beyond that, it's the same. I bought the Nakamichi PA-7 that's 30years old, I studied the circuit before I bought it. It's still as good as ever. I bought it for $700 used with problems. Spent $200 buying parts to fix and overhauled it. Now it's as good as ever. Hopefully in half a year, I will have my own design build and I expect to beat the Nakamichi by a lot.

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Any new info on specs, pricing, or release dates for the new Rythmik subs?
Yes please...its been almost 2 weeks since Brian backs from China,those 16 inch neighbors are making too much noise
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You must be seriously consider upgrading to these? Hope Brian can chime in soon with more details.
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It almost seems like audiophile is not big in US. It's big in Hong Kong where I came from, it's big in Asia and in Europe also. People spent big money in their system. I have a theory, over here, car is the biggest ticket item ( not talking about house) where people spent their money. In Hong Kong or other places like Japan etc., a car is not very useful as it's big city like NY, you take taxi or bus as there's no parking space. So people have more money to spend on other things and hifi is very popular.

If it's not for HT, hifi would be even less popular. Here, I know a lot of people that are into nice cars, I yet to know anyone into hifi audiophile, not even HT.

I definitely out of the loop on the new stuffs. My most up to date( say out dated) knowledge is Dobby 5.1. Now when you guys talking about 7.1 or whatever, I don't even know what you are talking about. Somehow, I just don't like surround sound even though my main use of the system is watching TV. As I said before, I had the surround sound setup took down when I moved, the rear speakers are in the shed out in the yard!!! I have a spare Acurus 3 channels 200W amp, Kef and Monitor Audio speakers sitting around. All I need is an AVR preamp(or whatever you guys call) and I can run the surround sound again, just never want to even try it anymore.

High end amps really have not changed much....if any in the last 30 years. I am very into power amp and designing my own. I talked on forums and read a lot of books, high end stuffs have not change since the 80s. Yes, you have the class D and other middle of the road stuffs that produce good quality sound in reasonable price. But beyond that, it's the same. I bought the Nakamichi PA-7 that's 30years old, I studied the circuit before I bought it. It's still as good as ever. I bought it for $700 used with problems. Spent $200 buying parts to fix and overhauled it. Now it's as good as ever. Hopefully in half a year, I will have my own design build and I expect to beat the Nakamichi by a lot.

Alan
Memories of long ago days Alan

I visited Hong Kong and Japan several times in the early 60's courtesy of my Uncle Sam (see photo) Walking the streets of Hong Kong did not look like a place in which I'd want to drive. At the very least, driving in Yokosuka, Japan seemed somewhat suicidal Streets were not much wider than the cars and at intersections they would honk their horn as they went flying through, no stop signs

Some years ago I recall reading that in Japan you can't buy a car unless you can prove you have a place to park it

Star Trek Beyond Blu-ray should be here Wednesday. Looking forward to exercising/enjoying the F12 some more. Maybe fire up Deep Purple Live in Verona (Blu-ray) this evening
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Isn't this pretty?!!!

I just received it, unpacked it and put it in place. It looks so nice I have to take a picture before I even worry about powering it up. The glass even fit!!! As you can see, the glass over hanged a little and it look so much better than with the old Velodyne. Even my wife was impressed.

Believe me, the big boss test is just if not more important as the sound!!!
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Isn't this pretty?!!!

I just received it, unpacked it and put it in place. It looks so nice I have to take a picture before I even worry about powering it up. The glass even fit!!! As you can see, the glass over hanged a little and it look so much better than with the old Velodyne. Even my wife was impressed.

Believe me, the big boss test is just if not more important as the sound!!!
It looks Awesome!! And those JMLab speakers are just incredible!! How the system sound?



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Isn't this pretty?!!!

I just received it, unpacked it and put it in place. It looks so nice I have to take a picture before I even worry about powering it up. The glass even fit!!! As you can see, the glass over hanged a little and it look so much better than with the old Velodyne. Even my wife was impressed.

Believe me, the big boss test is just if not more important as the sound!!!
Looks great Alan!!!
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Isn't this pretty?!!!

I just received it, unpacked it and put it in place. It looks so nice I have to take a picture before I even worry about powering it up. The glass even fit!!! As you can see, the glass over hanged a little and it look so much better than with the old Velodyne. Even my wife was impressed.

Believe me, the big boss test is just if not more important as the sound!!!
Alan, because you are placing the subwoofer near field and don't have a receiver with bass management, it's very important to set the delay/phase on the subwoofer accordingly. To do that just run the Subtuner software. The Subtuner is a Rythmik Audio proprietary software that will help you to find the right delay/phase for the subwoofer. It's a Java program so make sure you have Java installed in your computer.

http://www.rythmikaudio.com/subtuner2.html
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Alan, because you are placing the subwoofer near field and don't have a receiver with bass management, it's very important to set the delay/phase on the subwoofer accordingly. To do that just run the Subtuner software. The Subtuner is a Rythmik Audio proprietary software that will help you to find the right delay/phase for the subwoofer. It's a Java program so make sure you have Java installed in your computer.

http://www.rythmikaudio.com/subtuner2.html
Yeh, I am still reading the instruction. I am so behind in the sub technology, I used to just plug it in, adjust the phase ( 0 or 180) and adjust the volume on the Velodyne.

Big boss is taking a snooze, so nothing can be done until later. To be honest, I am kind of nervous, it looks so nice and I love it. But what if it doesn't sound any better than the Velodyne!!! So I am dragging my feet too!! Sorry.

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Yeh, I am still reading the instruction. I am so behind in the sub technology, I used to just plug it in, adjust the phase ( 0 or 180) and adjust the volume on the Velodyne.

Big boss is taking a snooze, so nothing can be done until later. To be honest, I am kind of nervous, it looks so nice and I love it. But what if it doesn't sound any better than the Velodyne!!! So I am dragging my feet too!! Sorry.

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Hey Alan,

Not that it can't happen but I will be surprised if there is NO difference It could be major or it could be subtle, heck it could be worse and you might have to try other orientations or locations. I understand about the dragging your feet part Done it myself on many occasions.

I haven't listened any louder, so far, but the sound is cleaner(?), more refined(?), whatever it is my ears like it Of course that may not be your experience Lets hope for great sounds to bathe in

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Alan, because you are placing the subwoofer near field and don't have a receiver with bass management, it's very important to set the delay/phase on the subwoofer accordingly. To do that just run the Subtuner software. The Subtuner is a Rythmik Audio proprietary software that will help you to find the right delay/phase for the subwoofer. It's a Java program so make sure you have Java installed in your computer.

http://www.rythmikaudio.com/subtuner2.html
I have trouble setting the sub up. I put the sub where the optimal position of the original Velodyne and I just stack the Velodyne on top for comparison. I followed #3 in the instruction for 2 channel setup without AVR or pre-pro. The sub did not even turn on ( the power light is green). I stuck my ears to the sub and couldn't hear anything. I had to turn the Volume in line 8 of the instruction all the way up, and all of the sudden the sub starting to work. It is still very light.

I tried turning the delay back and fore, I really could not tell the difference.

I turn the crossover in #7 all the way up to get a little more coverage. The thing is my JM Lab has dual 8" speaker, I should not need to turn the crossover all the way to have max frequency.

Do you have suggestion of a safe site to download Java as I cannot open the link you provided. I need all the help to set this up. So far, I have not been able to get better result than my old Velodyne. But I know better than to get panic because I went through the same thing when I first got my JM Lab.

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I have trouble setting the sub up. I put the sub where the optimal position of the original Velodyne and I just stack the Velodyne on top for comparison. I followed #3 in the instruction for 2 channel setup without AVR or pre-pro. The sub did not even turn on ( the power light is green). I stuck my ears to the sub and couldn't hear anything. I had to turn the Volume in line 8 of the instruction all the way up, and all of the sudden the sub starting to work. It is still very light.

I tried turning the delay back and fore, I really could not tell the difference.

I turn the crossover in #7 all the way up to get a little more coverage. The thing is my JM Lab has dual 8" speaker, I should not need to turn the crossover all the way to have max frequency.

Do you have suggestion of a safe site to download Java as I cannot open the link you provided. I need all the help to set this up. So far, I have not been able to get better result than my old Velodyne. But I know better than to get panic because I went through the same thing when I first got my JM Lab.

Thanks
Do you know by any chance the voltage of the pre outs on your pre amp? Less than 0.5VRMS could cause the subwoofer AUTO-ON to not work properly. Also make sure you are using both LINE IN (Left and Right) with a RCA "Y" adapter. As for the Subtuner you have to download Java and have it installed in you computer.



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Memories of long ago days Alan

I visited Hong Kong and Japan several times in the early 60's courtesy of my Uncle Sam (see photo) Walking the streets of Hong Kong did not look like a place in which I'd want to drive. At the very least, driving in Yokosuka, Japan seemed somewhat suicidal Streets were not much wider than the cars and at intersections they would honk their horn as they went flying through, no stop signs

Some years ago I recall reading that in Japan you can't buy a car unless you can prove you have a place to park it

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First I salute you for serving the country. Vets from that era got the raw deal from the public. Vets deserve to be respected and honored.

Hong Kong changed since the 60s. I came here in early 70s, I did not recognize the place when I went back in early 90s!!! I was like a foreigner when I was there. When I came here, I really came here. I am 100% American and never look back. I have the good old Red White and Blue flying proudly in front of my house.( not the Chinese red white and blue flag!!!)

When I was in HK, I was scared even sitting in the taxi. They flied through the traffic with like 4" space on each side. I didn't even know their dollar, coins anymore, I had to pay with credit card to save the trouble of counting.

I still have a long way to go setting up the sub. It's so complicated, before, just find the sweet spot by putting the sub on my chair where I sit, walk around and find the loudest point and put the sub there. Adjust the phase between 0 and 180 for most solid base and just set the volume and done. Now you have all these delay and all, have to download Java to get the app!!!

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Do you know by any chance the voltage of the pre outs on your pre amp? Less than 0.5VRMS could cause the subwoofer AUTO-ON to not work properly. Also make sure you are using both LINE IN (Left and Right) with a RCA "Y" adapter. As for the Subtuner you have to download Java and have it installed in you computer.
I use the speaker cable to drive the sub. That's part of the reason I did not choose the L12.

I know to download Java, but from what site? You have the cnet, and other ones. When I went to Oracle, they have so many different ones!!! I went on Physics forum to get suggestion for a safe site to download. So it's going to be a few hours to get answers.

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I use the speaker cable to drive the sub. That's part of the reason I did not choose the L12.

I know to download Java, but from what site? You have the cnet, and other ones. When I went to Oracle, they have so many different ones!!! I went on Physics forum to get suggestion for a safe site to download. So it's going to be a few hours to get answers.

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Yes, that's right. OK so did you get the signal directly from the amp or from the speakers? Also, you need to send both speakers signal to the subwoofer. Download Java from Oracle website. That's the safest place.



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Yes, that's right. OK so did you get the signal directly from the amp or from the speakers? Also, you need to send both speakers signal to the subwoofer. Download Java from Oracle website. That's the safest place.
I got the signal from the speaker. I only get from one side. I know I should get both. But I have been getting from one side since day one for the Velodyne, so at least for now, it should not be a problem.

I literally plug the cable back and fore between the Velodyne and the F12 to compare.

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I got the signal from the speaker. I only get from one side. I know I should get both. But I have been getting from one side since day one for the Velodyne, so at least for now, it should not be a problem.

I literally plug the cable back and fore between the Velodyne and the F12 to compare.
Well you have to get both signals to the subwoofer. I sent you a PM asking for your phone number. Brian wants to call you to help with setup.
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I really need to have some more play time on it. It's so new to me with all the adjustment. I think I'll spend tonight playing with it first.

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First I salute you for serving the country. Vets from that era got the raw deal from the public. Vets deserve to be respected and honored.

Hong Kong changed since the 60s. I came here in early 70s, I did not recognize the place when I went back in early 90s!!! I was like a foreigner when I was there. When I came here, I really came here. I am 100% American and never look back. I have the good old Red White and Blue flying proudly in front of my house.( not the Chinese red white and blue flag!!!)

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Thanks Alan, however folks still respected service men when I got out. The change came during/post the Vietnam era. My youngest brother did two tours in Nam.
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I hooked up the right side to the sub also, it makes a day and night difference. I have to turn down the volume of the sub!!! Now at least I am in business. I still have a long ways to go.

I am using the song Oasis from the CD GRP All-Star Live From The Record Plant with Dave Grusin, Lee Ritenour, Carlos Vega etal.

For some reason, I like the base and bottom better with the crossover to get higher frequency ( about 2 to 3 o'clock instead of 12 noon). I have big 8" woofers already, I am surprise how little base with the JM Lab alone.

I just got the response from Physics forum.....Java.com!!!! I should have known that!!! I'll read through that first.

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They should.

I donate to Wounded Warrior every year, but I might change to DAV or Vet of Foreign Affair this year. I don't like the news this year with the WW. If I help anyone, it would be the Vets. They fight for the freedom of this country, make this country the best country in the world. It's sad that people here take all this for granted. Even though HK is always modern and free, now China is strong, BUT it's nothing like this country. Every time I went out of this country, I always so glad to come home.

Vietnam Vets did NOTHING wrong, blame the politicians, don't blame the Vets.

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Hey all. I've never owned a sub worth talking about, other than car audio, which is a different ball of wax. I'm mostly decided on Rythmik. I've heard great things, however I'm in a little bit of a bind. I was originally thinking of getting two LV12R subs, I'm just not sure if I really need two. A friend recommended I get one LVX12, since I wasn't going to get the second LV12R right away. I'm a little sub shy because I don't want to vibrate my house apart, and my wife, and 3 younger (9,4,3 year olds) children wouldn't tolerate it. The other option might be, again to forgo two subs and just get one F12/F12G.

The room is 17.5' x 23' with 8' ceilings. The left wall is a half-wall/banister for the stairs. My main use for it is for a home theater, and I'm planning on using either a Yamaha A2050, or 3050 receiver to run my whole system. The speakers will be a 5.1.4 or 5.2.4 system, most likely with Chane A5s in the front A2.4 in the center and A1.4 for the rest (unless I get in-ceilings for my rear wides). I'll be sitting about 11-12' from the screen, so I guess about 10 1/2' from the business end of the center channel. I'll also be putting the speaker on an Auralex Acoustics SubDude-HT since the room is on the second floor.

So should I get two LV12R or just get a LVX12/F12/F12G and not worry about a second sub?

I know this is a Rythmik thread, but the other subs I was considering were a pair of Hsu Research VTF-2 MK5 or one VTF-3 MK5 HP/VTF-15H MK2 or PSA S1500-b seconds for $899 (shipped/no tax). They balance out between free shipping and paid shipping because I have to pay tax on Rythmik (Texas Resident).

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They should.

I donate to Wounded Warrior every year, but I might change to DAV or Vet of Foreign Affair this year. I don't like the news this year with the WW. If I help anyone, it would be the Vets. They fight for the freedom of this country, make this country the best country in the world. It's sad that people here take all this for granted. Even though HK is always modern and free, now China is strong, BUT it's nothing like this country. Every time I went out of this country, I always so glad to come home.

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AMEN Alan, AMEN!
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