Originally Posted by mojomike
I hope you realize that you you are arguing with a guy (Nathan) who builds subs that leave anything Deftech has ever produced in the dust. Deftech subs are middle-of-the-road at best. They never meet their ridiculous, exaggerated, over the top specifications. Nathan is the guy than many hard-core enthusiasts turn to when they get bored with certain so-so performing subs such as Deftechs. If you want to keep that argument going, you're just going to wind up looking silly.
As the former owner of 8 high"er"-end subs ($1500+) I can assure you that the Def Tech Trinity (streets about $2100) is an all-out performer and prolly in the top 2-3 overall that I've heard or owned. Yeah, I think that much of it and still remember it well...tremendous output and extension in my room. And never struck me
as bloated or uncontrolled.
And regarding their (DT) specs...it's been beaten to death a million times on avs: all they really do not provide are -3 and/or -6db output figures.
I've always said that anyone who believes their ~one cubic foot boxes deliver 20hz performance are getting precisely what they deserve. Sure it's not ideal specification on DT's part but at this level of the game consumers need to do some of the lifting themselves.
And actually, understanding their brick and mortar nature and ability to be had substantially less than their MSRP, I think most of the DT offerings higher up the food chain offer pretty decent value (not value KINGS, mind you)- especially compared to their b&m bretheren.
It has to be undersrood that many simply won't/can't order a big matte black box off an ID site and call it a day. Personally my first inclination (like many others) is I don't really think it's that big of a deal, but I'm enlightened enough now to know better.
Not meant to be a pom-pom fest for DT, just saying they have their demographic and it really isn't those looking to squeeze every db of output they can out of $800.
Again though I can understand how strong the thought can be when it comes to thinking: "you could do so much better for $1000 (fill in the blank)". It's a hard mind set to shake, but we just have to remember some have dramatically different priorities: budgets, dimensions...and- gulp- WAFs.