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The two Ultra 12's will be here tomorrow. I have some Metallica DVD's on standby for some testing!
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It came double boxed. About 1/2 the size of the HSU-stf. Sounds pretty good. All in all, it looks and feels well built. I am happy with the purchase.

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Just wondering how you think the sub compares to the STF 2. I recently bought the STF-2 after mulling over the Ultra 12. Curious to see what you hear that the Ultra does better or worse.
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Took the plunge and ordered an Ultra-12... Would of liked two but hopefully one will suffice; for now at least.

So now I'll have owned an eD A2-300, MFW-15, and now an Emotiva Ultra 12. First sealed subwoofer and looking forward to it.
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I listen to some music and watched some TV when I first installed the 10 but I have not listen to it since. At this point, I am happy with my purchase decision and would still buy one if I had to it all over again. One non-scientific reason for going with Emotiva is that Emotiva is known for building top quality - high-end products and selling them at rock bottom prices. Using that odd logic, the 10 and the 12 would cost 2x or more if produced by another manufacturer. My next purchase will be their CD players and then one of their amps. Their customer service is A+ too.
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My initial impressions of the Emotiva Ultra SUB10.

When I first got this sub, the first thing that I noticed was that absolute amazing build quality. This thing is a 12 inch cube and it is no light weight, at almost 40 pounds. The grill is very heavy for its purpose as it is made out of wood. How often is subwoofer grills made out of wood today? Very impressive. The grill has metal pegs that will not be moving anywhere, it is secure. With the grill on, the subwoofer looks nothing special. Once you take it of though, you can see the beast inside. The subwoofer it self looks very good, nice and clean. The amp on the back looks top quality.

Enough about looks though, lets talk about what really matters. After the sub crawl and calibration it was time test it. I popped in a Live John Mayer DVD and this subwoofer came alive. Bass lines were well defined, drums were hitting hard. This sub is very musical and gets quite loud. Then it was time for raw bass testers. These are mostly just bass sweeps, but they are actually decent songs. The SUB10 does not disappoint and hits every note with authority. The most challenging test though, was Bassotronic's "Bass, I Love You." This song doesnt really have much bass above 40 hz and dips to 7 hz. It does very well in all the passages, but when it goes to the 7 hz part it obviously cannot play it at a decent SPL, but there was a little punch to it.

I did decide to watch The Matrix last night on it, and allthough it does not have the absolute best LFE, it did very well. The most memorable was when the helicopter hits the building after Neo saves Morphus. It slammed HARD, I felt like I got hit by the helicopter.

EDIT: So I just got done watching the bass classic War Of The Worlds Pod emerging scene in DTS and jeez did the SUB10 perform well. I never bothered to watch this movie in my old sound system because I knew my old Polk subs would get destroyed by this. So I did not really know what I was getting my self into, even though I heard that it will test your sub HARD. I was watching at around -25 Db on my Denon, with the sub a few Db hot. Lemme say that this scene scared the bajesus out of me when it hit. Mind you I am in a small 11 x 13 room, and this sub pressurized the room like a champ. Now its nothing that the high end subs can do but this is a 300 dollar sub, and it was shaking everything in the house. I was super impressed with the power this little sub has in it.

I decided to take the subwoofer out side to see what it can do at 1 meter. I wasn't expecting much but it did quite well. Its +/- 3 Db was at 25 hz (roughly), and from there it rolled off quite hard. 20 hz was at -15 Db, which I guess is not too bad, considering it is a sealed 10 inch subwoofer.

I can't recommend this subwoofer any more. For the price of 269 with free shipping is an awesome price.

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the first thing that I noticed was that absolute amazing build quality. This thing is a 12 inch cube and it is no light weight, at almost 40 pounds.

Sorry but anyone that has built speakers will tell you that 40 lbs does not equal a quality build.

40lbs tells me the speaker has Limited bracing, limited thickness in the walls and the driver isnt all that great. I have 10" woofers that weight 20+ lbs

Taking the price and numbers into consideration then its not a bad sub.

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Sorry but anyone that has built speakers will tell you that 40 lbs does not equal a quality build.

40lbs tells me the speaker has Limited bracing, limited thickness in the walls and the driver isnt all that great. I have 10" woofers that weight 20+ lbs

Taking the price and numbers into consideration then its not a bad sub.

Yeah I do understand that but it is a cheaper subwoofer. If it was much more expensive, then 40 lbs is light. Can't expect too much for a 300 dollar subwoofer. It would be one thing if it weighed like 20 lbs, but 40 lbs is enough to make me happy. Its a damn good subwoofer for the price though.
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FWIW the newest offering from SVS SB12-NSD sealed sub weigh in at 41 pounds:

https://svsound.com/products-sub-box-sb12nsd.cfm

Took delivery of the Ultra 12 yesterday and I am really happy so far. It looks nicer than what I was expecting which can be attributed to the build quality and more importantly it sounds pretty good too! I've only been able to play various music and concert videos for testing thus far and I'm really impressed. Hope to put it through its pace with blu ray over the weekend. Right now for the money at the current sale promotion this is easily a no brainer deal for those on the fence looking for a budget priced subwoofer at an incredible value to performance ratio. I'm leaning towards pulling the trigger for a second one if all goes well over the weekend. As a bonus free emo t shirt to boot!
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FWIW the newest offering from SVS SB12-NSD sealed sub weigh in at 41 pounds:

https://svsound.com/products-sub-box-sb12nsd.cfm

Took delivery of the Ultra 12 yesterday and I am really happy so far. It looks nicer than what I was expecting which can be attributed to the build quality and more importantly it sounds pretty good too! I've only been able to play various music and concert videos for testing thus far and I'm really impressed. Hope to put it through its pace with blu ray over the weekend. Right now for the money at the current sale promotion this is easily a no brainer deal for those on the fence looking for a budget priced subwoofer at an incredible value to performance ratio. I'm leaning towards pulling the trigger for a second one if all goes well over the weekend. As a bonus free emo t shirt to boot!

When does the sale end? You might want to go ahead and order the other.
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I'm now waiting for my Ultra 10 - I can't wait to see how it fits in with my setup. It'll be the first non Klipsch speaker in my living room.
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My initial impressions of the Emotiva Ultra SUB10.

When I first got this sub, the first thing that I noticed was that absolute amazing build quality. This thing is a 12 inch cube and it is no light weight, at almost 40 pounds. The grill is very heavy for its purpose as it is made out of wood. How often is subwoofer grills made out of wood today? Very impressive. The grill has metal pegs that will not be moving anywhere, it is secure. With the grill on, the subwoofer looks nothing special. Once you take it of though, you can see the beast inside. The subwoofer it self looks very good, nice and clean. The amp on the back looks top quality.

Enough about looks though, lets talk about what really matters. After the sub crawl and calibration it was time test it. I popped in a Live John Mayer DVD and this subwoofer came alive. Bass lines were well defined, drums were hitting hard. This sub is very musical and gets quite loud. Then it was time for raw bass testers. These are mostly just bass sweeps, but they are actually decent songs. The SUB10 does not disappoint and hits every note with authority. The most challenging test though, was Bassotronic's "Bass, I Love You." This song doesnt really have much bass above 40 hz and dips to 7 hz. It does very well in all the passages, but when it goes to the 7 hz part it obviously cannot play it at a decent SPL, but there was a little punch to it.

I did decide to watch The Matrix last night on it, and allthough it does not have the absolute best LFE, it did very well. The most memorable was when the helicopter hits the building after Neo saves Morphus. It slammed HARD, I felt like I got hit by the helicopter.

EDIT: So I just got done watching the bass classic War Of The Worlds Pod emerging scene in DTS and jeez did the SUB10 perform well. I never bothered to watch this movie in my old sound system because I knew my old Polk subs would get destroyed by this. So I did not really know what I was getting my self into, even though I heard that it will test your sub HARD. I was watching at around -25 Db on my Denon, with the sub a few Db hot. Lemme say that this scene scared the bajesus out of me when it hit. Mind you I am in a small 11 x 13 room, and this sub pressurized the room like a champ. Now its nothing that the high end subs can do but this is a 300 dollar sub, and it was shaking everything in the house. I was super impressed with the power this little sub has in it.

I decided to take the subwoofer out side to see what it can do at 1 meter. I wasn't expecting much but it did quite well. Its +/- 3 Db was at 25 hz (roughly), and from there it rolled off quite hard. 20 hz was at -15 Db, which I guess is not too bad, considering it is a sealed 10 inch subwoofer.

I can't recommend this subwoofer any more. For the price of 269 with free shipping is an awesome price.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uvf4EY-ObHk

where do you get it for $269? that seems like a great price

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where do you get it for $269? that seems like a great price

From their website directly, it is totally worth it. If you can spare the money you can get the Ultra SUB12. I wanted something smaller though and it does not disappoint!

http://emotiva.com/ultra_sub10.shtm
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From their website directly, it is totally worth it. If you can spare the money you can get the Ultra SUB12. I wanted something smaller though and it does not disappoint!

http://emotiva.com/ultra_sub10.shtm

awesome! thanks for the heads up. i have a svs pb12-plus already but this would be perfect for a 2.1 setup in my den.

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It would be one thing if it weighed like 20 lbs, but 40 lbs is enough to make me happy. Its a damn good subwoofer for the price though.

fyi, spec page says 30.5 lbs.

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fyi, spec page says 30.5 lbs.

Actually I just weighed it hahaha.. It came out to 37.5 lbs. So I donno hahaha... Anyways lets get back to what really matters, the sound.
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The wife was surprised by the two boxes that said 12" sub. ;D The new UAC-6.2 are on top. Those are some nice looking speakers, I will post some pics later.


Very Nice double boxing.

Grille is on top. I should take a picture of this too. It is a heavy grille not some cheap crappy construction, very heavy.




See babe it's not that big.


Originally had them facing forward. Wife didn't like how visible they were. I actually don't want them standing out that much either.


Decided to turn them. Wife still doesn't like how visible they are, but after a long conversation I think they are staying. Actually at one point she recommended me using the large guest room we have as a home theater room. I may just take her up on that.

Don't really have anywhere better to place them so they will have to stay stacked in the corner.


Have not had time to hook them up yet. Maybe monday.
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These are the first quality, inexpensive subwoofers to include a balanced input. A breakthrough product.
This advancement and accomplishment should be recognized. Hopefully other manufactures will follow suit to remain competitive.

Thanks go to Emotiva.
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I thought that traditionally subs with paper cones (such as Emotivas) were inferior to other types of material? If that's not then case then why? Isn't paper a much weaker material then some sort of rubber?
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Reading the posts here last week convinced me to order the 12", should be here in a day or so!

Still lots for me to learn with properly setting up my system - I also just hooked up my new Onkyo HT-RC260 receiver (same as the 608, minus a couple oddball inputs). My old Sony didn't have nearly the number of options to customize and tune the setup and was pretty much plug-and-play. It sounded very good (to my untrained ears), but I'm sure it can be much better now.

I'll be asking for some more advice when I get that new sub in. My setup is Klipsch RF-63s and RC-64 up front with my old Boston Micros serving for the side and rear speakers as well as the sub.
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I thought that traditionally subs with paper cones (such as Emotivas) were inferior to other types of material? If that's not then case then why? Isn't paper a much weaker material then some sort of rubber?

See cheap subwoofers are usually made out of paper materals because it is cheap, but that does not mean all paper subwoofers are bad. These Emotiva subs are paper but it is very strong. It has to be because it is a sealed box and there is alot of pressure going on and there is a ton of power. Materals of the sub does decide how good a woofer is, but if it is done right it does not matter as much.
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I thought that traditionally subs with paper cones (such as Emotivas) were inferior to other types of material? If that's not then case then why? Isn't paper a much weaker material then some sort of rubber?

Unless the speaker is made for outdoors and has to resist a wet environment, there is absolutely nothing wrong with paper cones. Many well-regarded speakers and subs still use drivers with paper cones.
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Got mine today about an hour ago, it's the 12" version...

I've had significance experience with the following subs:

Velodyne CT-120
Polk PSW505
Elemental Designs A2-300
AV123 MFW-15

Room:
Horrible; ceramic tile, cathedral ceiling 12ft, living/kitchen/dining/halls; at least 6000 ft^3

Setup:
Onkyo 805
Polk RTI10, CSI3, FXI3

I placed the sub in the front because I'm extremely picky about locating the subwoofer in the setup. This is on an interior wall about 10 ft wide with entry ways on both sides; so not a corner in sight. I have it placed between the TV and left speaker.

This is my first sealed subwoofer in the home theater world and simply put after about an hour with it I don't think I'll buy another ported subwoofer.

The difference to me is you hear the subwoofer much less sealed but feel it more so; a more tactile experience. Don't get me wrong my 15 make's you feel it in the couch; but it also tells you right where it's at, not to mention it's the size of a mini fridge.

I'd say for any average size living room one 12 would be enough; I'd like to add another but am really in no hurry and will enjoy one no problem. It reminds me most of the A2-300 but in a much smaller package; and I believe it has a much more snappy punch to it.

Any questions about it; just ask...
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I saw your set up and I was wondering if the subs placement (being right next to your equipment cabinet) would adversly affect the performance of any of your componets like the DVR or DVD/BRP.

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I have a simiiar setup as pioneercrazed except my 12 is on the right hand side between the front right tower speaker and tv/equipment stand. I haven't experienced any performance issues with dvd/blu ray component and blends in really nice sound wise.
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Did anybody receive a t-shirt with their order?
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Did anybody receive a t-shirt with their order?

I got mine, its just a Emotiva shirt hahaha. Has a small logo on front, BIG on the back.
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They were out of stock when my 12 was delivered when I followed up with them about the missing shirt. They fedex me the shirt the following day and it's arriving today. Just shoot them over a quick email with your desired shirt sized and consider it done.
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Got one with each sub
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Thanks for the info on the shirt...

Man I'm really impressed by the sub, for the size and the price it's a win-win...

Anybody interested in a good deal on a MFW-15?
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Thanks for the info on the shirt...

Man I'm really impressed by the sub, for the size and the price it's a win-win...

Anybody interested in a good deal on a MFW-15?

How good of a deal?
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