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post #1 of 6 Old 04-25-2010, 04:07 PM - Thread Starter
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Oh man.. Epik had to go and discontinue to Castle. Oh well, I'm thrilled that I have one; it's a wonderful sub!

I'm moving the theater into a larger room, and will have the space for another sub in this new location. The room is approx 20X17 with ~8' ceilings. The Castle will be located in one corner of the room, I'd like to add another sub to another corner to even out the bass response over the entire area (not really for more bass; good god, the Castle still makes my hair stand up on end!).

Anyway, I'm wondering what (from Epik) would be a good compliment to the Castle? It looks like the Empire is the new "It" sub from them. How would you think that that sub would blend with a Castle? Would they be a complimentary pair (because I'd assume the Empire can dig a bit deeper, and that the Castle would be a bit louder)?

Anyway, any help/suggestions would be great, I'd appreciate any ideas that anyone can throw my way.

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Reality is you're better off trying to either A. Find a used Castle for sale, or B. Selling your castle and going with a pair of different subs.

It is pretty much never a good idea to mix two different subs together, even if they're from the same company.

The Empire is a great sub, but its going to be a lot different than your castle. The castle was a great sub for digging deeper, more of a HT sub than a music sub. Not that it was bad at music, it just was better suited towards HT. The Empire has gained a reputation for being VERY strong in the midbass region, so its going to feel like a wholly different sub than what you're used to. Some scenes in the lower frequencies you'll expect to be like the old sub won't be performed as well, but then others which are more midbass will probably be done a lot better.

If you're interested in other brands, you could pick up a pair of eD A5-350's or A7s-450's and you'd be sittin very pretty.

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Hmm.. Well, I think you answered my question. I'm not real happy with the answer (I really don't want to retire the Castle, I love this sub) though; maybe I'll "take a shot" at adding a single Empire to the mix; if it doesn't sound good, I'll add a second and retire the Castle.

It just seems like you should be able to mix and get the "best of both worlds", a better mid-bass hit (from the Empire) and the deep/powerful low end of the Castle. I realize that often things that "seem like they should work" don't work at all...

Anyway, thanks for the suggestions; I'd like to hear any others, and, if anyone has a "mismatched" sub pair, please pipe in and let me know what you found!

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Reality is you're better off trying to either A. Find a used Castle for sale, or B. Selling your castle and going with a pair of different subs.

It is pretty much never a good idea to mix two different subs together, even if they're from the same company.

The Empire is a great sub, but its going to be a lot different than your castle. The castle was a great sub for digging deeper, more of a HT sub than a music sub. Not that it was bad at music, it just was better suited towards HT. The Empire has gained a reputation for being VERY strong in the midbass region, so its going to feel like a wholly different sub than what you're used to. Some scenes in the lower frequencies you'll expect to be like the old sub won't be performed as well, but then others which are more midbass will probably be done a lot better.

If you're interested in other brands, you could pick up a pair of eD A5-350's or A7s-450's and you'd be sittin very pretty.


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You can use two different subs together. It might be a little harder to get it dialed in than using two of the same subs. I would not retire your current sub. I have never used different subs together but some people do it around here on the forum. HSU is a company that makes some good performing subs. I don't own any of their subs. HSU makes a mid bass module to run with a main sub. It can be done. It just might take some time to get it right. Im not really suggesting that you buy from HSU. Just using them as an example of being able to use two different subs together.
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I went the other way ... I had a sealed Epik Dragon and added a ported Epik Phoenix.

I am very happy with the results ... plenty of mid-bass and a great low-end kick.

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I have a Epik Tower and Empire. In my room, the Empire does not dig as deep as the Tower, but it sure fills in the mid bass area at the LP that was a bit lacking with the lone Tower (more so for music). The duo is powerful for movies. (5000+ cu ft shared room, LP at 13ft on western end, both sub co-located up front 3.5 ft apart). Although I have no subEq at the moment, I've had no problems or noticed any oddities with how they sound together after running MCACC setup.

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