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Just started disassembling the MFW, and once I took the woofer off, I thought this was way to good to keep to myself, have a laugh-quality is job one!

Looks like I have some sanding to do.




Never mind the mess, I had just finished installing and reassembling at this point.

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Excellent! Can't wait.

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Pics coming later today

Congrats JoshKo I am sure this kit will turn your MFW into a real monster of a sub. Was your sub not working or did you just decide to upgrade?
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Thanks Mike.

Both of my amps were shot, and I wanted reliability. However, the extra added horsepower will be a nice addition as well.
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Nice! Now THAT is a driver and the overall look of the kit looks very professional like the logo engraved on the amp. I would not not call that adding extra horsepower but more like yanking out a boat anchor in-line four and dropping in a full roller small block along with all the drive train upgrades. Looking fwd to your impressions after setup and tweaking, have fun.
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Get that puppy going! We all want info.

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JoshKo, how many times have you had that driver in and out? Did you put the extra mount holes there, or did it come that way?

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JoshKo, how many times have you had that driver in and out? Did you put the extra mount holes there, or did it come that way?

I never had the driver off before today. That's the fine craftsmanship of AV321.

Later today I'm going to check the other MFW to see if it looks like Swiss cheese as well........I'm sure it will.
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Get that puppy going! We all want info.

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Bill do I sense a upgrade coming? You already have quad Empires and triple MFW's. I always say you can never have enough bass!
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That driver looks exactly like my AE AV15X driver, probably is one, either the X or H model. With what looks like 1,000 watts behind it, I'm positive you're going to be very happy with the result.
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I never had the driver off before today. That's the fine craftsmanship of AV321.

Later today I'm going to check the other MFW to see if it looks like Swiss cheese as well........I'm sure it will.

Man, that is just pathetic. You might want to fill those holes up with wood putty.

My MFW-15 doesn't look like that, I've had my driver in and out a few times. And will again, the v2 amp is kaput.

Congrats on the upgrade, can't wait to hear your impressions.

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Hey Joshko how much does that driver weigh?
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Hey Joshko how much does that driver weigh?

I didn't weigh the driver, but I can tell you with great certainty it weighs well over twice the stock MFW woofer. Shipping weight was 74#'s just for the driver.
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After all that waiting you finally have a working sub...sweet. Any initial impressions with no E.Q. or boost applied?
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Leak test is done, calibration isn't perfect, but good enough for this evening, will do finishing touches on tomorrow. I'm sure the neighbor is already enthused by my behavior

I won't be taking any measurements anytime soon, instead I'll be using that time to enjoy the sub. This is just a quick impression as I'm really pressed for time at the moment.

The subs I have in possession now are:2xMFW-Epik Empire.

Empire: I love that sub, it has that tight, clean sound and very good output. However, the Turbo takes all the positive aspects of the Empire and magnifies them substantially It's not a knock against Chad, as he makes excellent subs, but IMHO, the Turbo is just that good.

MFW: Let me put it this way, I would have no qualms putting the Turbo against 2 MFW's any day of the week, period. The Turbo is just in a whole nother category.

The output on the Turbo is just plain brutal.The SQ is better than any sub that I have ever owned. This sub is clean, tight, and will hit you like a cannon ball to the nuts. I respect the articulation this beast brings to the table, again, better than anything that I have ever owned before. This is just one fantastic package, and it's not 100% dialed in yet.

That's all the time that I have for now. If you have any questions just give me a holler, and I'll answer them when I get back in.

Edit for Mike: I'm not using any EQ or boost.

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Thanks for taking the time for your quick review! Had a feeling it would not disappoint considering the people behind the kits design. Wait till the driver has some playing time on it and you get it all dialed in the sound can only improve. Try not to piss your neighbors off too much have a hunch that is going to happen with this bad boy in the house.
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Very impressive. It's going to be great to have peace of mind as well. Congrats!

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Any plans to Turbo the other MFW-15, JoshKo?

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Holy crap batman, Mark Seaton and Sandbagger have really out done themselves!

Very impressive!

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Could someone explain the eq feature on that amp?
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Could someone explain the eq feature on that amp?

It is a single band parametric. You select the center frequency (FREQ.), then dial in how wide a bandwidth you want to affect on either side of your chosen center FR (BANDWIDTH), then set the boost or cut in decibels (LEVEL).

This allows you to zoom in on a problematic room mode without drastically affecting frequencies on either side of the mode. Use a test tone CD and an SPL meter to find the most offensive room mode.

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I have to say, I always liked the look of the MFW... But that looks amazing! Its too bad those things do not last unless you pay to get the turbo..
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I really like the Moho finish Josh has, very unique in and of itself, and no two subs are the same.

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Any plans to Turbo the other MFW-15, JoshKo?

Absolutely, it will be a little bit down the road, but I will have two.

Anything worth doing is worth overdoing

Thanks for the comments on the moho, I like the natural look myself, and the other is almost identical in markings.

One thing I didn't mention earlier, and that's the weight with the new woofer in it. I highly suggest you get some magic rollers from Home Depot, because it is much heavier than the original set up.

Edit: I'd also like to mention I have no intentions of doing a head to head with the other subs that I have. The only reason I compared what I did is to give a metric to go by.

My hats off to Mark and Kevin, they did one heck of a job on this kit.
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Where can I find info on this wonderful product?

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Where can I find info on this wonderful product?

http://www.seaton-sound-forum.com/?forum=154357

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Glad to see the Turbo has landed and Josh is very happy with the performance! I'm looking forward to my own Turbo kit, hopefully when the next batch is ready...

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That driver looks exactly like my AE AV15X driver, probably is one, either the X or H model. With what looks like 1,000 watts behind it, I'm positive you're going to be very happy with the result.

You have the cone painted black? Mine wasn't. btw, its the AE AV15X considering its described as
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Not many choices hand build in America

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A new 1000W amp that is well respected and robust( bullet proof).

It looks like the Dayton rack amp, if the new designs are similar to the old designs Chuck measurements on the DIY forum prove it to be a LOT of power at 20Hz. I could be wrong and it could be a great amp for subs. I wonder if we can buy it separate.




What is the cost of this upgrade??

Im interested in the amp/woofer in another project.

Nevermind, I see it above...$750?? No thanks!!

If people had a real understanding of subs they might save $200 and buy the AV15X/EP2500 for under $500 instead Of course for just over $750, they could have a better 15" box with PRs from AESpeakers.com. I just do not see this as a great deal.

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Penngray,

Only a couple of issues I see with your suggestions. You are assuming that any of us that are purchasing a turbo what to DIY the whole project. The blockoff plates and the time it took sandbagger to customize the amp is worth at least $200 in fact Kevin probably isn't making a ton on these things even purchasing in bulk. Not to mention, whatever your thoughts on av321 my palisander Rosa diamond cabinet is gorgeous and i don't see that kind of quality coming from a $250 kit cabinet.

Just my thoughts.
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Penngray,

Only a couple of issues I see with your suggestions. You are assuming that any of us that are purchasing a turbo what to DIY the whole project. The blockoff plates and the time it took sandbagger to customize the amp is worth at least $200 in fact Kevin probably isn't making a ton on these things even purchasing in bulk. Not to mention, whatever your thoughts on av321 my palisander Rosa diamond cabinet is gorgeous and i don't see that kind of quality coming from a $250 kit cabinet.

Just my thoughts.

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